What is immoral about a wall?

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  1. Okeechobee Joe

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    Yeah, it says we don't like illegal Immigrants.
     
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      So would a wall at the northern border. So would a crackdown on overstaying on visas.

      It's almost like there's something particularly distasteful to some about people approaching from the south.
       
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        Or maybe it's just a part of a larger whole.
        One does not necessarily mean another isn't also an issue.
         
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          How many illegal immigrants come to this country from Canada? Is it a number in the millions...or nah?
           
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            I don't know. What I do know is that we are currently at a net negative flow with Mexico. This means the proposed wall would actually keep people here.
             
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              Man ... I get the feeling you don't know squat and you are just making this stuff up or just parrotting out what you heard on some slanted media platform that you think is the bee's knees.
               
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                Well, there are a **** load of canadians here *****ing about the wall...I say lets build one there too.
                 
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                It's fine if you don't know the exact number offhand--but what's your gut instinct tell you on the matter: do millions of immigrants come to the US over the border from Canada or not?

                The second part of your post makes no sense whatsoever. The US doesn't forcibly stop illegal immigrants from leaving at the border. Those who do leave of their own volition don't walk across the desert: they go by plane or car.
                 
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                  Dude. Read. Comprehend. That is just about Mexicans and not all the illegal immigration. Sigh.

                  Plus, we are talking in numbers where we stop showing the entire amount past the first comma from the right. Meaning ... lots. That means we are still getting A LOT OF ILLEGALS COMING ACROSS OUR BORDER.
                   
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                    Even if true, could you imagine the improvement in the overall illegal flow equation if we had tougher border security?

                    Seriously, this garbage is what you are bringing to Gator Chatter Shabby?
                     
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                    How bout building a wall is the moral thing to do because all we do by allowing illegal immigration is basically slave labor.
                     
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                    There is every winter. People go home to see mama at Christmad then come back for growing season.

                    Also, to say it is less bad than when Obama was letting every person who entered stay (and refusing to prosecute them for illegal entry) isnt saying much.
                     
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                      Politifact is anything but a fact.

                      Should say "mostly liberal propaganda" instead of mostly true.
                       
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                      Exactly. The recent caravans were all from *other* Central American countries, not Mexico. The number of Mexicans illegally entering has gone down somewhat, but it's been offset by immigrants from other countries walking across.

                      It's a glaring flaw in the argument the study is trying to advance and a failure of Politifact to not address.
                       
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                        Well, it was from mid 2017. Things are always changing.

                        Regardless, there is no massive crisis at the border compared to 15-20 years ago.
                         
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                          It's families and children now is my understanding. Not working age men.
                           

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