Who will the closure hurt more?

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  1. NOLAGATOR

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    I contend that if it goes on for very long the Congress will take it on the chin.

    With Pelosi given everything she wanted and still saying, "NO" Voters will start turning on the DEMS.
     
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        Can you start a Poll?
         
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        Nope. There is no appetite outside of the Fox News audience for this wall. None.
         
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          Sorry my Progressive Brother...On all the Conservative Media outlets: Talk Radio, On Line, Fox News...The Base is demanding the Fence/Wall.

          And many of the Independents don’t care BUT want the Government open.

          When it comes to keeping the government closed over $5 Bil just because YOU WON'T BUDGE even though you were FOR IT under OBAMA will BACKFIRE.
           
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            Makes no sense. 30-35% of the country wanting it means 70-65% doesn't. Plus, the country just loudly shouted to the tune of a 9M vote margin that they don't like Trumpism.
             
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              I bet you thought The Shumer-Pelosi show after the speech was a winner as well huh? It's just too easy to pull up old clips of Dems saying the Wall was good, votes for much more money than Trump is asking for, show pics of the walls around their homes, and show them saying there is a crisis at the border, all before Trump was Prez of course, for them to look anything but foolish here. AOC said that the illegals trying to break into the country are more American than the legal Americans who want them to apply for migration instead of breaking in. That's the new Dem party and no way anyone outside their base will follow idiotic logic like that. Trump is well on his way to re-election here and can thank the new Dem house for helping him get there with this buffoonery that only pleases their unthinking base.
               
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                No, a lot of people don't care.

                But that still does not matter. Border Patrol says 93% of the crossers come across where there is no wall.

                And now Congress is taking more blame...up to 46% on Government Closure
                 
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                I'm all for the closure. And I haven't watched Faux News in at least a decade.
                 
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                  Your bulb is dim. Trump was just a part of the mid-terms.
                   
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                  Wrong. WE tried this before and failed, in 86 or so. We need to secure the border. That is a win for all citizens.
                   
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                    Trump will just issue an emergency order to start on the wall and fund the govt if they are willing to hold out until February then it will be how quick the SC will overturn the lefty judge they get when they go judge shopping.
                     
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                      There were 2 main groups of newly elected Dems..crazy leftists like AOC and the MFing muslim from Detroit, and then many much more moderate dems, many with military backgrounds, elected to bridge the gap. Most of the latter are far to the right of Schumer and Pelosi and will likely not stand for this idiocy very long. Their constituents very likely are for some kind of border security, to include a wall where it makes sense, and will not like their newly elected reps shutting down the gov't over what clearly is a political play for the Dems against Trump as opposed to what is best for the country.
                       
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                      What about it? The irony of this photo is that the majority of this contraband was confiscated at ports of entry or through tunnel systems that bypass current walls or barriers. A border wall won't do a damn thing to stem the flow of drugs, weapons or cash from entering and leaving the US.
                       
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                        Why are you opposed to it?
                         
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                            You directly illustrate the issue that is plaguing our country; take people's word without any knowledge of the subject or doing your own due diligence;

                            On the border, Trump turns political in making case for his wall

                            Trump demands border wall in Texas visit, but spotlights contraband seized at ports of entry | Politics | Dallas News

                            Again, a wall or barrier will have little to no affect at stemming the flow of contraband into this country.
                             
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                              Meaning where there is a wall or other obstacle we can confiscate the contraband and where there isn't one, we can't. There really isn't hope for you guys.
                               

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