Why is everyone freaking out over war with Iran?

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  1. Bushmaster

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    I have had both kids, wife, employees, clients, friends, and neighbors ask me what are my thoughts on us running a bomb up some iranian generals ass and blowing him to pieces.

    Am I worried Iran is going to attack? No. They are no more motivated now to take a shot at us now than they were last month. Are we more motivated to beat uga or f$u because they did something? That is their level of hatred for us.

    Are they going to pop off something here in the US? Doubtful. They would have already done it if they could have.

    Killing Saddam = great!!
    Killing OBL = great!!!
    Killing this guy = bad?? Is it because orange man bad? The liberal hatred for everything Trump is so far over the top I have to wonder why they are on Iran's side over their own country.

    Read recently Trump gets 93% NEGATIVE news coverage. obamalama received over 90% POSITIVE news coverage. Really? Sell that garbage elsewhere. It doesn't fly.

    Quit scaring the hell out of Americans about Iran. We would go thru their ass like a hot knife thru diarrhea and be home in time for supper. Iraq fought them to a draw and we literaly didn't stop on our way to Bagdhad in 2003. The difference this time is there won't be a terrorist nation providing urban fighters in Tehran.
     
    • Taco Gratis

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      Nothing wrong with taking out Soleimani. I do have a problem with spinning the truth in order to justify it. But Trump's measured non-response after the Iranian dog and pony show should set everyone's mind at ease for the time being.

      As an esteemed board member frequently reminds us, "look at what Trump does, not what he says."

      Or IOW, words don't matter as much as they used to. And that's not a bad thing.
       
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        Tell me about the "spin."
         
        • Taco Gratis

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          I already have.
           
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          The only way there will be a war with Iran is if Iran wants it. I don't think they do, but if I'm wrong, they will regret it if they start one with us.
           
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            We'd all regret it.
             
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            I was hoping for something more substantial. In short, I disagree.
             
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              Maybe you would, but I wouldn't. Neither would the vast majority of those in our military today. Iran has been begging for an attitude adjustment for decades. We have the capabilities to give them exactly that without much, if any, loss of life to our own troops. If they keep it up, they may get that much needed attitude adjustment. I'll stand behind our POTUS if he feels he needs to make that call because he's already proven he'd prefer not to go that route, but is willing to do what he can to protect our troops. That has a lot of value with me being a 20 year vet.
               
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                Depends on what we mean by "war."

                I regret supporting that clusterfvvk in Iraq.
                 
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                I actually think Trump has handled the messaging quite well: he's made it clear in public and private settings that *we* won't escalate things from here, but that we aren't blind to what they're doing and are going to continue holding them responsible for their actions whether they act directly or via their proxies. It's good statesmanship and what was needed to assure the public and markets that all the "WWIII" nonsense was media drivel.
                 
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                  Okay.
                   
                • Okeechobee Joe

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                  Taking out Soleimani looks a lot different to a soldier than it does to the jackwagons at CNN
                   
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                    Right on
                     
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                    He has no plan... never has, never will. ;)

                    PS Are "the Kurds" dead yet?

                    and yes, i'm poking fun at you.
                     
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                      For as often as you LOVE to bring up that quote, you might as well get it right: I said he had no plan with regard to North Korea; and last time I checked: nothing has changed. They are no closer to giving up nuclear weapons now than they were 12, 36, or 72 months ago.

                      Many did die as a result of our actions. If that's your idea of how to treat a friend...well, noted.

                      How Trump has handled this particular foreign policy test is how I expect him to act/behave in other situations too. He's capable of greatness when he wants to.
                       
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                        You need to find a new family and friends.
                         
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                          The messaging was so clear that it was understood by everyone except the US MSM. The most frustrating aspect is that the same outlets simultaneously accuse him of being too weak and too aggressive. One might think that a discriminating readership might limit them to one or the other.
                           
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                            The MSM has handled this with abject incompetence and a total failure to objectively report the situation. Trump did this as a *response* to Iranian actions, not as a totally out of the blue airstrike. It was the right call; and by any objective analysis: Trump "won" the battle. We killed their top general who masterminded decades of nefarious attacks and plotted still more (and for added measure, one of his top surrogates with an Iraqi militia he controlled) in exchange for attacks on a foreign base that killed no one and which has probably already been repaired. I'll take that any day.
                             

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