Why is everyone freaking out over war with Iran?

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  1. NavetG8r

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    I guarantee you we won't be setting up shop in Iran like we did Iraq. It'll be quick, strategic, precise, and devastating. Again, IF Iran doesn't get wise. Hopefully, they realize it's a losing proposition to keep challenging us.
     
    • Concrete Helmet

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      No....no we wouldn't and in the end we'd end up saving and improving the lives of millions if we did it right.
       
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        I don’t understand why there was any explanation beyond, “He’s been behind the Shiite factions attacking our troops for 16 years, he was behind the recent attacks on our embassy and the contractor, he was riding with the Iraqi coordinating all of that, he’s behind the proxy war in Yemen and ongoing strategic moves to threaten Israel.

        He’s been on a kill list for 7 months.

        Even so, the way the AP and others misconstrued the SecDef’s interview Sunday morning is yet another appalling false narrative.
         
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          Our Army Cav Scout son is furious with the coverage. He said every IED they came across in his 27+ months in Iraq (2005 & 2008-09) was traced back to Iran. Every one. (Posted that elsewhere but worth repeating.) He was playing offense the whole time.
           
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            You get that, I get that, but 50+ per cent of potential voters don't get that? I have friends who can think critically in several areas, but take the evening news at face value. I remain, as I have been for some time, stunned
             
          • gatorev12

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            Well, the media has the lion's share of the blame here (if they want to be seen as "professional" then they should actually take measures to act the part); but it's also up to the American public at large to demand better. Conservative media isn't much different from the mainstream liberal media in pandering to what their viewers want to hear.
             
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            Trump got more valid results in shaking hands with North Korea's Kim than 16 years of Bush and Obama. combined. Kim has learned the most truth about Americans and their President than he has ever known previously. That is a move in the right direction. As Kim observes our firm dealings with Iran's Khomeini, it will all be more relevant-real than before Trump taught Kim what we're really like = working with us or working against us. Of course, Kim's delusionally insane ... but he has to be contacted, worked with.
             
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              Non-mainstream media will get you more of the true truth versus Leftist propaganda.
              So 50% of Americans do not believe 100% of propagandized reveals; they just choose to cuddle with the Left-crowd that uses bullying persecution to keep their crowd in line. My God! Think about Iranian students who know American leaders are more honest than Khomeini. To express this they tread near their imprisonment or death. Worldwide and at home, subtle changes are taking place. Spiritual changes that have been stirred by the existence of a US President like Trump. All past presidents have been no-change presidents -- not so with Trump. The US Presidents to follow need to not fit in with The Swamp. The Swamp actions have no substance -- they're fake. That goes well with fake news.

              The protests in Iran may get quashed but those people will remember better and come back better. Outsiders can encourage their yearn for freedoms or turn their backs on them like Obama. Right now, something is different for Iranians that they really do not want to chant "death to America" and many think the killing of Suleimini was a good deed.
               
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                Why?
                 
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                Listen and hear me out because this is the whole truth....
                Iran would get their asses handed to them in less than 1 hour....Same with Russia....and NK would only take 15 minutes.
                The media hypes these countries capabilities up to the point where people fear ANY harsh dealings or confrontation with them and is used against any POTUS with balls. They even try and make Trump look bad when he imposes sanctions or takes military action. It's carryover from Bush1&2, Reagan and even back to the Cold War. This was when the KGB infiltrated the media and Hollywood and started this Leftist propaganda .....look how Reagan handled the USSR....They didn't have half the sh!t we were led to believe they had.

                These media types don't realize that countries like Iran, Russia, and NK are LITERALLY starving from the sanctions Trump has put on them....they are like children misbehaving because their candy got taken away.....I can't believe a large majority of the public doesn't see through this.

                It's a damned good thing for them Trump is a peace loving man because if I had my way we'd be kicking all 3 of their asses and taking their lunch money....
                 
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                  They'll welcome us as liberators, no doubt. Cue Santayana.
                   
                  • Taco Gratis

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                    It's what they should have said. That someone felt the need to embellish was puzzling.
                     
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                    • Swamp Donkey

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                      Id dont think Fake News has enough viewers for it to matter.
                       
                    • Swamp Donkey

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                      Yeah, but CNN says he gets to kill 600 for free and only 601 matters, but only if it is imminent.

                      And trust the Dims bc they cant actually discuss the classified data. Theyve been so trustworthy in summarizing classified, havent they?

                      These arent the real numbers, anyway. Those might be the ones our CIA heard HIM give the order specifically to strike us at a soecific point. Every single Shiite militia from Teheran to Beirut took orders from him and him alone. They didnt shyt without his permission.

                      The real number is tens of thousands killed and probably ten times that of his own people. Basically every death came at his hands from the Shiite militias he back, at least up until time that Obama tried to make Al Queda in Iraq/ISIS his pet and unleash them on Assad.

                      I just wish the death of Suleimani had been slower, like so many of our American marines and soldiers were. Maybe tie him up to a bridge in Fallujah and then roast him slowly.
                       
                      #34 Swamp Donkey, Jan 14, 2020
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                        Like there aren't a passel more we should freely needing 'dronetization'.
                         
                      • Gatormac2112

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                        No need to spin anything. Guy was bad, responsible for American deaths in the past, dont care if anything else was imminent or not.
                         
                        • Okeechobee Joe

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                          Giving them the silent treatment.
                           
                          • Swamp Donkey

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                            We better get on it if we are going to pull the trigger.

                            Iran is building its ONE DESTROYER as we speak. Imagine trying to take in a Navy that has ONE DESTROYER instead of zero.
                             
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                            You have to understand that Muslims want to bring armegeddon. They don't care who dies on their side. Once Iran has nukes be afraid, be very afraid because the religious leaders in Iran will be doing Allah's work. The mistake in dealing with them is thinking that they think like us. They don't. MAD is not a deterrent for them.
                             
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                              So right, Threat. Martyrdom is their Heaven. Plus, from their recent blasting of that commercial airliner full of innocent travelers = you want those deciders controlling nuclear devices? Accidentally or on purpose to blame America cannot let them have it .... no, wait let them have it.

                              The only future safe for Israel, for the US, for anybody in that region is to blast away their nuclear plants
                              Now, if the Iranian people rise up and transform their nation to peaceful growth, we can watch & wait. But, if bombing out the Ayatolla's nuke stations & labs could help along the rise of the regime rejecting Iranians, then smart thing to do -- smart missiles.
                               
                              #40 rogdochar, Jan 16, 2020
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