Will Texas turn blue?

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  1. g8tr72

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    Lots of Republican congressman retiring.

     
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    When it does pubs are done in presidential races.
     
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    Then we can enjoy all the fruits of socialism we've been promised.
     
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      No. The Congress reps retiring is a sign it'll be difficult to regain the House in 2020, not that the whole state will flip.
       
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      ItsDookie87 ...it's best to let him finish

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      They would be if they weren't willing to adapt and change the platform to appeal to more people. More than likely they will just find something else to support and exploit for political gain.
       
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      • g8r.tom

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        • g8tr72

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          If you look at the data from their previous elections, you will see declining support for Rs in the Texas congressional races.

          I wouldn't take for granted that TX is a Red state.
           
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          Only a matter of time. The demographics are rapidly changing.
           
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          Republicans dropping out of the marathon to straighten out America is bad, terrible. They're quitters, while Democrats and socialists never quit. And they are lockstep 100% united. While what say 30% of Republicans are in support of Trump? Are the quitters quitting because they can't get behind the Trump-style? Trump is a great wheeler-dealer for America and on the world stage he's really a bossy boss. I love all that, dazzled by all that. But he is the opposite of "How to win friends and influence people". Trump alienates people unnecessarily. Other Republicans cannot band together with him, making a formidable Party equipped to withstand the God-awful bullying of Democrats.

          Trump needs to build this nation a stronger Republican Party. He's not attending to that aspect of his Presidency. Trump needs, America needs a very much stronger Republican Party. A party with the "pull togetherness" to find and support and push to election win in 2024. These dishonorable Democrats have cultivated an America in turmoiled confusion. A sabotaging they hope to keep in place for 2024. I love what Trump's got going in the long-term contest versus thieving world traders. But it may take past 2024 or at least the threat of art of the deal strength continuing. What with guys like Kerry telling America's adversaries to wait it out.?? Looks so much like persons of honor just don't want to do the dirty work required to marathon arm-wrestle Demoncrats.??
           
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            Trump (statistically the most unpopular candidate in history) won Texas by 9%. Romney by 15.

            The (popular) Governor is very red, as is state govt. Yes, there've been millions of transplants--but over time, many--if not most--will turn red themselves, as happened in the 80s. Added to that is that the state's Latinos don't march lock-step with the Democratic party. Off memory, some 38% of Latinos in Texas vote Republican. Houston has a large community of conservatives from South American countries like Argentina, Chile, and others; and San Antonio's Mexican-American community has links to Republicans spanning decades.

            I'd be more worried about Georgia turning blue in the coming elections than Texas.
             
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              Yup. Between the influx of immigrants from other blue states and Mexico and the birth rate of hispanics, Texas is a goner.
               
              • g8tr72

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                Trump seems the type of person that prioritizes one thing faithfully - himself.

                While he has done some things to the betterment of this nation, some of us have been sounding the alarm over the affects of his narcissism since before he was elected.

                As a result of this governing style, when he's gone, he will leave the R party in complete disarray.
                 
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                  Texas is getting a ton of transplants from bankrupt blue states and these idiots are voting for the same **** that caused their companies to move them there in the first place. I know so many people from IL that their companies moved them to TX because of the toxic political climate and yet they are all in on Robert Francis
                   
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                    He will certainly leave the party changed with a blue collar look. I am good with that.
                     
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                    Actually, that would be (and has been) the failure of rank and file republicans, for Trump's entire term. The few that have not had Trump turn them off have been too busy working for truth against the hoax coup. Best hope is that before November 2020 the whole truth is splayed out for all Americans to see what the Deep State has done. All Americans see what Nadler, Schipp. Slawell, and exactly what the so united Democrat Party nas done to them. Then maximal collapse of MSM for their incessant bully lying to the American people. Dems and their agents have fabricated scat and stuffed that down everyone's throat for year after year after year. I want a huge backlash against these dangerous creeps.

                    Then a better redo on Hillary's e-mail cold-case. Then let the crimes of pay to play Clinton Foundation be aired.
                    By all this maybe Trump's negatives will be seen as oh so minor by politician standards.
                     
                    • ItsDookie87

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                      Neither are purple yet, Georgia is probably closer than Texas but Texas isn't far behind. Trump was the most unpopular candidate in history but he benefited from going up against someone almost as unpopular. Add to that we were just coming off a popular Democratic president having served two terms and it makes Trump's -6 compared to Romney look considerably worse. What would Romney's margin have looked like in Texas had he gone up against Hillary in 2016? What about McCain? I could see a scenario where Trump doesn't come close to the 38% margin for Latinos in 2020 and Republicans actually lose Texas. I wouldn't put my money on it but it's not out of the question either.
                       
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                      A lot of the influx is caused by those seeking cheaper cost of living and lower taxes (ie: people who, at heart, have some appeal for conservative ideology). Most of Southern CA's defense contractor jobs got relocated to the Dallas Metroplex over the last 20 years and while some were liberals, just as many have been conservatives.

                      As for the Hispanics--a sizable portion of them are red. It's not like California: the Mexicans there tend to integrate pretty well into the American lifestyle and many are reliably Republican. Newer immigrants tend to be blue; but over time, many end up voting Republican in state elections.

                      A lot of people made this same argument in the 80s in the first wave of transplants from liberal states/waves of Mexican immigrants...and in the end, Texas stayed as red as ever.
                       
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                      Im just going to John Galt.
                       
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                        We don't need Rep or Dem...We need Constitutionalists. We need to protect our Rights, Cut Spending, and take care of America FIRST.
                         
                        • g8tr72

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                          Agreed. I doubt there are a dozen elected politicians in DC that would champion all of those causes prior to helping themselves.
                           

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