Urban Speaks: UF did not capitalize on momentum of winning Tennessee game

[Spurdog98]

It's going to get worse and if Lagway decommits it will be a domino effect very quickly

 

[Gator By Marriage]

not sure I've ever seen a faster decommittment rate without a HC firing occuring first.

this is a pretty good point.

 

[78]

Meyer's college coaching record is an incredible 187-32. The NFL is a completely different animal and using that as some kind of barometer that Meyer can't coach anymore is ridiculous. He could take ANY school in FBS and improve them immediately, he's that good. Fortunately, he's very picky and would laugh at the idea of coming out of retirement for a school like Texas A&M. IMO, UF is the only school he would coach again. He has been buzzing around the program and speaking publicly about his great experience here for the last several years. He never says a damn thing about Ohio State.

We're not in position to turn our noses up at a Meyer return. The rest of the SEC would panic. I personally would bust a nut.

I'd throw in an enlarged prostate.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

That and for all his other issues and weaknesses, the guy could actually coach. Unlike the current guy and several of the other would-be replacements post-Urban.

Yeah, but, but…the current guy is developing Champions of Life…and he’s looking into things like the special teams fiasco that cost us the Arky game…and he said he’s going to get to the bottom of it…and I believe him!

And he still has 7 timeouts left over from games earlier this season, so there’s that!

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

I don't disagree but symptoms can be treated now with the right remedy. I think the only reason to fire BN would be if UM agrees. It's also the only way we fire BN and save the class. Anybody else in all likelihood the class is gone for the most part.

Serious question- what does keeping Sunbelt Billy around for next season accomplish?

 

[GatorJ]

Good gawd, not sure I've ever seen a faster decommittment rate without a HC firing occuring first. This is ridiculous. Just rip the bad aid off already and clean house starting with the AD.

Sasse, you have a job to do. Do it.

I don’t think it’s over. I think we lose at least 1 more kid in the next couple weeks.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

If you think this administration is going to hire UM, they aren't. They do not know what bad press, they want safe. Napier was safe, he wasn't going to embarrass Stricklin during the hiring process and he is a bland, likable guy. They do not want the kind of press that Meyer would and did create. They didn't want Swamp Kings, there is a reason it was so watered down.

Swamp Kings was fcvking awesome! How did it portray us in a negative light?

 

[SGG]

I’d take him back in a heartbeat, if for no other reason than the utter disdain he has for our rivals: Ugay, F$U, bUTtchug, and LSU. The coaches who came after him have all just done a complete circle jerk with all the rival coaches they faced.

Could you ever see Meyer publicly congratulating Ugay on winning a national title? I can’t

 

[GatorJ]

@oxrageous - what was it that you said about Urban about a decade ago? That he was a shooting star… Extraordinarily bright and eventually burns out?

I think it was the best description of him ever. He’s not going to remain forever. But can we get him back here to right the ship and have him handpick his successors. And then maybe have him come in as AD.

 

[gatorev12]

@oxrageous - what was it that you said about Urban about a decade ago? That he was a shooting star… Extraordinarily bright and eventually burns out?

I think it was the best description of him ever. He’s not going to remain forever. But can we get him back here to right the ship and have him handpick his successors. And then maybe have him come in as AD.

Ohio State has seamlessly replaced Meyer, that's for sure.

When you recruit elite talent and have a defined system in-place, you don't need to change things around too much. That was Muschump's biggest initial failing: trying to take a spread team to a pro-style offense and then waffling between the two with his OCs after that.

 

[Gator By Marriage]

I don't... because he loves to own his successes, but not once has owned the schit he left behind anywhere of his last 3 stints.

Thanks for the Natty's, but fuk that guy as a man. He's a fraud in that department.

I still shake my head when I think of his recruitment of Stefon Diggs during that first year he was at tOSU. Diggs was reportedly strongly considering UF and Urbs allegedly told him UF would not be a good choice as it was "a broken program." Dang Urbs, if only we could figure out who was responsible for that!

Personally, I have yet to decide if I'm desperate enough to agree to selling our soul to get back to national prominence for a few years. Maybe after he left us this time we'd be like bucknutz and continue to be relevant, but I'm not sure I could put up with another lost decade+ of four HCs and so-so football.

 

[GatorJ]

Ohio State has seamlessly replaced Meyer, that's for sure.

When you recruit elite talent and have a defined system in-place, you don't need to change things around too much. That was Muschump's biggest initial failing: trying to take a spread team to a pro-style offense and then waffling between the two with his OCs after that.

The problem is that Meyer was having massive panic attacks when he was with us and then got drugged up to deal with it and finally left us in disarray.

He did not do that with Ohio State.

But we were rich in player talent after he left. The administration just kept making bad hires. Because they’re retards.

 

[gatorev12]

I’d take him back in a heartbeat, if for no other reason than the utter disdain he has for our rivals: Ugay, F$U, bUTtchug, and LSU. The coaches who came after him have all just done a complete circle jerk with all the rival coaches they faced.

Could you ever see Meyer publicly congratulating Ugay on winning a national title? I can’t

For the life of me, I don't understand why more coaches don't do their homework on this type of thing. Meyer knew the importance of beating rivals. We might have lost a game or two to them, but we never showed up completely unprepared (as we have under multiple coaches now). Certain games do matter more. And getting players hyped up for them directly helps improve performance. Look no further than the Tenn game, when apparently former players were coming to practice and film sessions all week and hyping the players up about the game and the importance of winning it...and the team played with a fire and intensity that we haven't seen since.

But then again, Meyer did a lot of little things that seem basic and common sense that other coaches seemingly don't pay attention to. He was an obsessive recruiter (no idea why Mullen thought he couldn't) and was obsessed with special teams (no idea why Napier thinks they're unimportant when it's quite literally cost him multiple games).

 

[GatorJ]

I still shake my head when I think of his recruitment of Stefon Diggs during that first year he was at tOSU. Diggs was reportedly strongly considering UF and Urbs allegedly told him UF would not be a good choice as it was "a broken program." Dang Urbs, if only we could figure out who was responsible for that!

Personally, I have yet to decide if I'm desperate enough to agree to selling our soul to get back to national prominence for a few years. Maybe after he left us this time we'd be like bucknutz and continue to be relevant, but I'm not sure I could put up with another lost decade+ of four HCs and so-so football.

How did he leave us a broken program? Did he make Muschamp not hire OL for 4 years and not recruit any offensive skill positions?

Did he make McElwain fvk a shark? And then fake death threats?

Did he make Mullen stop wanting to coach and not want to recruit?

 

[78]

How did he leave us a broken program? Did he make Muschamp not hire OL for 4 years and not recruit any offensive skill positions?

Did he make McElwain fvk a shark? And then fake death threats?

Did he make Mullen stop wanting to coach and not want to recruit?

What sort of impact do you figure he had on inflation?

 

[Gator By Marriage]

The problem is that Meyer was having massive panic attacks when he was with us and then got drugged up to deal with it and finally left us in disarray.

He did not do that with Ohio State.

But we were rich in player talent after he left. The administration just kept making bad hires. Because they’re retards.

There was talent for sure, but it was uneven. The O line had no depth, there was no good QB on the roster and the WRs weren't much better. The greatest indictment of how his recruiting had fallen off was the 2012 NFL Draft held 16 months after Urbs left. The first Gator picked was Jaye Howard - in the 4th round - and the only other one picked was Chris Rainey (in the 5th). (Technically, he could also claim credit for Janoris Jenkins who was a 2nd rounder and certainly would not have been kicked to the curb by Urbs for a measly two marijuana arrests.)

 

[Gator By Marriage]

How did he leave us a broken program? Did he make Muschamp not hire OL for 4 years and not recruit any offensive skill positions?

Did he make McElwain fvk a shark? And then fake death threats?

Did he make Mullen stop wanting to coach and not want to recruit?

I didn't say we were a broken program; he did. One year after he had left.

Kinda hard to blame any of his successors at that point.

 

[Spurdog98]

I still shake my head when I think of his recruitment of Stefon Diggs during that first year he was at tOSU. Diggs was reportedly strongly considering UF and Urbs allegedly told him UF would not be a good choice as it was "a broken program." Dang Urbs, if only we could figure out who was responsible for that!

Personally, I have yet to decide if I'm desperate enough to agree to selling our soul to get back to national prominence for a few years. Maybe after he left us this time we'd be like bucknutz and continue to be relevant, but I'm not sure I could put up with another lost decade+ of four HCs and so-so football.

What do you think any recruit is being told at any given time about a rival program? And Diggs choose Maryland so not sure he was ever interested in UF. No one has to tell them that now, they can just turn on ESPN and hear it 24/7.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Swamp Kings was fcvking awesome! How did it portray us in a negative light?

Reading comprehension is hard for you... re-read what I said. Do you honestly think that Swamp Kings is the real story......

 

[Gator By Marriage]

What do you think any recruit is being told at any given time about a rival program? And Diggs choose Maryland so not sure he was ever interested in UF. No one has to tell them that now, they can just turn on ESPN and hear it 24/7.

You are missing my point completely. Schools all bad mouth each other. It's Urbs not taking any responsibility for leaving us "in shambles" that I find ironic

I have no idea how seriously Diggs considered us as I do not know the man or the guys recruiting him, but he came to FNL - and put on an absolute show - and he took an OV to UF a couple of weeks before signing day. (His last OV was to tOSU the next week.)