Recruiting 2024 Transfer Portal Thread: USC offensive lineman Jason Zandamela headed to UF

[B52G8rAC]

Correct. My mistake. I got Weezy mixed up with Aunt Esther.

I guess they all look alike to some folks.

 

[soflagator]

Trick-Wee-Zee? Is that correct?

I mean, let’s be honest. Tzvi isn’t exactly popping up at theme park key chains either, ya know.

 

[Back Alley Gator]

I guess they all look alike to some folks.

Well, I was going with the fact it's been 40 years since I'd seen either of them on TV....

 

[B52G8rAC]

Well, I was going with the fact it's been 40 years since I'd seen either of them on TV....

Dementia is not an excuse. What were we talking about, anyway?

 

[jdh5484]

I guess they all look alike to some folks.

 

[maheo30]

4.95 40. Yeesh.

 

[oxrageous]

If it were you or me we would be happy not to be imprisoned by the school we signed with at 17.

Imprisoned? It's called keeping a commitment you made to a school in exchange for a full scholarship, and players did it for generations. If some jackass wants to transfer, then he should have to sit out a year like it was before.

 

[Mr2Bits]

Starters don’t transfer. Starters are not always the best on roster- well, with some staffs. The Only thing we have going for us is recruiting and at this point I will take what they can land. Hate to put it this way, but at least the DL and CB will not be PWOs or JUCO. Seems like a plus.

Ummmm…Go look at Oklahoma’s offense then let’s talk!

 

[FireFoley]

Correct. My mistake. I got Weezy mixed up with Aunt Esther.

https://y.yarn.co/ba0afac2-0161-4ece-9820-e3a0ce829628.mp4

 

[NVGator]

I take it back. We are so back!!!

LOL. A WAC guy. Yeah, we back alright.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Imprisoned? It's called keeping a commitment you made to a school in exchange for a full scholarship, and players did it for generations. If some jackass wants to transfer, then he should have to sit out a year like it was before.

Most scholarships are one year deals that can be terminated at the end of every year by the school. I think if we are going to talk about the commitment it should be on both sides.

 

[soflagator]

Most scholarships are one year deals that can be terminated at the end of every year by the school. I think if we are going to talk about the commitment it should be on both sides.

There were a handful of exceptions, yes. But realistically, how many kids truly lost their scholarship because they didn’t perform up to expectations? Even when Saban was processing kids with what he determined to be “injuries”, they still had their schooling paid for, so the commitment was still honored. It’s always been year to year, but also seen as a 4 to 5 year commitment from both sides.

 

[TheDouglas78]

There were a handful of exceptions, yes. But realistically, how many kids truly lost their scholarship because they didn’t perform up to expectations? Even when Saban was processing kids with what he determined to be “injuries”, they still had their schooling paid for, so the commitment was still honored. It’s always been year to year, but also seen as a 4 to 5 year commitment from both sides.

Sofla, I don't think you realize how many college athletes not just football completely lose their scholarship on an annual basis. It's "seen" as a 4 to 6 year commitment (per NCAA). Roughly 40% of student athletes do not see the full scholarship due to the school revoking the scholarship due to injury, academics or poor performance.

Big10 is the only major conference that does have a guarantee of 4 to 6 years on their scholarship to my knowledge.

Some Individual universities have rules that are in place for students that might not meet performance if they can fill other roles, ie Team manager. But it isn't as wide-spread and only so many of those positions, and they are not full rides in the majority of cases.

The P5 conferences only have to take care of players with "long-term" injury (NCAA bylaw 15.3.5.3 (b)). Why not the other institutions, who knows. Which in that case allows for an Injured player to stay on scholarship to finish school.

Not all athletic scholarships are full rides either, only about 50% of them. Each year, the administration can increase, decrease, status quo or eliminate the scholarship.

 

[GatorFL]

Not all athletic scholarships are full rides either, only about 50% of them. Each year, the administration can increase, decrease, status quo or eliminate the scholarship.

I know a lady, her son was a UF baseball player and he had a 50% scholarship. She called it a "half scholarship." He was a starter.

 

[soflagator]

Sofla, I don't think you realize how many college athletes not just football completely lose their scholarship on an annual basis. It's "seen" as a 4 to 6 year commitment (per NCAA). Roughly 40% of student athletes do not see the full scholarship due to the school revoking the scholarship due to injury, academics or poor performance.

Big10 is the only major conference that does have a guarantee of 4 to 6 years on their scholarship to my knowledge.

Some Individual universities have rules that are in place for students that might not meet performance if they can fill other roles, ie Team manager. But it isn't as wide-spread and only so many of those positions, and they are not full rides in the majority of cases.

The P5 conferences only have to take care of players with "long-term" injury (NCAA bylaw 15.3.5.3 (b)). Why not the other institutions, who knows. Which in that case allows for an Injured player to stay on scholarship to finish school.

Not all athletic scholarships are full rides either, only about 50% of them. Each year, the administration can increase, decrease, status quo or eliminate the scholarship.

Of the three scenarios for athletes losing their scholarships, one is self inflicted(academics), one is just part of life(injuries) and while I won’t say for a certainty that no kid has ever lost his scholarship for poor performance, I also can’t think of an example either. Meyer was as cut throat as it gets and guys like Lorenzo Edwards and Justin Williams were busts here for all 5 years and contributed absolutely nothing. It’s hard for me to imagine he could’ve pulled that trigger as easily as you describe at any given moment but didn’t due to just being such a nice guy.

All of this really just leads back to what I’ve said from the beginning. If there is a major shift in scheme due to a coaching change, and a player no longer fits, I have no problem with being able to transfer. The issue is we’re seeing kids pack up and leave for no reason at all. And again, as I pointed out, it’s having an adverse effect on HS kids as well. Not to mention the guys who go in and are still just sitting there because it turns out out that nobody wants them. So it’s not just about fans or even coaches. Much like NIL it has become the wild Wild West and needs to be curtailed with some parameters.

 

[Theologator]

I know a lady, her son was a UF baseball player and he had a 50% scholarship. She called it a "half scholarship." He was a starter.

Baseball gets screwed by Title IX. Partial scholarships are the norm.

 

[Silverback Gator]

Imprisoned? It's called keeping a commitment you made to a school in exchange for a full scholarship, and players did it for generations. If some jackass wants to transfer, then he should have to sit out a year like it was before.

I admit, it was a decent package. But for what the university received, it was sometimes less than the value of the athlete. But okay. If it were you, which would you like more, the money and full ride with ability to transfer only the full ride and handcuffs?

 

[Silverback Gator]

Ummmm…Go look at Oklahoma’s offense then let’s talk!

There will be some. Would be interested in seeing the percentage. Most do not. If they do, would want to know why.

 

[soflagator]

I admit, it was a decent package. But for what the university received, it was sometimes less than the value of the athlete. But okay. If it were you, which would you like more, the money and full ride with ability to transfer only the full ride and handcuffs?

For every star QB, RB or WR, there are dozens of players that merely add depth and others who contribute nothing other than being an opponent on the scout team in practice. Can the university charge those players back since they stay on scholarship, sometimes getting several degrees, despite not fulfilling their end of the deal athletically?

 

[GatorJ]

Of the three scenarios for athletes losing their scholarships, one is self inflicted(academics), one is just part of life(injuries) and while I won’t say for a certainty that no kid has ever lost his scholarship for poor performance, I also can’t think of an example either. Meyer was as cut throat as it gets and guys like Lorenzo Edwards and Justin Williams were busts here for all 5 years and contributed absolutely nothing. It’s hard for me to imagine he could’ve pulled that trigger as easily as you describe at any given moment but didn’t due to just being such a nice guy.

All of this really just leads back to what I’ve said from the beginning. If there is a major shift in scheme due to a coaching change, and a player no longer fits, I have no problem with being able to transfer. The issue is we’re seeing kids pack up and leave for no reason at all. And again, as I pointed out, it’s having an adverse effect on HS kids as well. Not to mention the guys who go in and are still just sitting there because it turns out out that nobody wants them. So it’s not just about fans or even coaches. Much like NIL it has become the wild Wild West and needs to be curtailed with some parameters.

I think the quick way to fix that is for the conferences to set the rules on transfers. Don’t leave it to the schools.