The Coaching Search Thread

[rogdochar]

And though he can relate to players,

... he makes players relate to his process.

He wants to make football fun.

... Stricklin does too -- that's a contract right there.

This coach has already built relationships with high school coaches in Florida.

... next step doing more with the name-brand of UF backing him up & up.

if I were a betting man, which I'm not. But if I was, I would....but I'm not.

.... but I'd bet we're all bettering on Frost.

Scott Frost improved UCF's yards per play from 4.7 (ranked 125th) in 2016 to 7.9 (ranked 2nd) in 2017.

... improved yards by a mile.

Should a bunch of our twitterites start tweeting our 2018, 2019 incoming all these upbeat #1,2,3 good hires we're touting?

 

[lagator]

If UF wanted to be cheap (and I'm not advocating this), they could keep Shannon on as HC and hire two quality coordinators. Possibly put Rumph in at DC if he shows he can handle it (plus he gets to coach w/o the recruiting burden). Move Skipper back on offense at TE coach, because the TE coach doesn't do a lot but Skipper can recruit, and I haven't seen a lot of LB development. Let Shannon take on the LBs. Fire Nord and Dixon. Keep Seider and Davis. So we'd retain Seider, Davis, Skipper, Bell and Rumph. That leaves 5 spots open I think with the new rule. Who would you go after to fill out that staff? I actually think you could get a pretty good product on the field with a few right hires.

Again, not advocating this, but if we strike out, I like this plan with the right hires better than a Taggart or Mullen.

Well that should get us 8 wins and an Independence bowl bid most years.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Shannon's D just got their azzes schooled by Smart. Saw the play-by-play analysis of what they actually did to the Gator D they made monkeys of us. Almost all of it was coaching, our guys were way out of position on most plays.

The problem is that there is literallly NOTHING to do with the Shannon. What are you going to do? Play zone w 6-7 in the box to protect the LBs and safeties who are weak in coverage? Or put an extra guy or two in the box to protect the weak DL vs the run and leave the dbs and lbs (eek!) in man to man?

Either one guts your throat cut w this defense.

Is there talent? Sure, but the talented Dbs are freshmen. Same at DT. DE? They are great for pass rush, bit we have 8 weakside DEs and no run stuffers who set the edge.

LB....well, maybe we can recruit better in the future.

Is Shannon great? no he is an average old school 4-3 zone DC.

But he sure as hell isnt the problem on D.

 

[lagator]

Excellent post Joe! Something tells me that Stricklin is way ahead of us on this hire. He looked very confident and seemed to know the outcome at his presser.

Agree. In fact I said as much before Mac was fired;).

The only problem I'm seeing is the momentum building on Frost is getting a little crazy and we are only 2 days into November. By the time the regular season is over and many more P5 job openings come up, Frost could be in an unprecedented position as far as offers for total compensation.

The problem is also the benefit in this case. That is the closer you look at this guy, the more impressed you get, and the more he looks almost too good to be true. And now everyone is looking.

He doesn't strike me as a guy who will just be looking at highest bidder, but his agent (like all vultures) will be. We are going to have to be prepared to pay what seems like an insane number considering his level of experience to land this guy. At this point UCF losing a game or 2 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Just as I was pretty positive that he would be our primary target and that he would be interested, I also would bet money he ultimately will be looking to move to the NFL as a HC, so coming to a program that has the best chance of early success will likely be important to him.

I'm pretty confident he will be our next coach, but I'm also pretty sure that the 4.5-5 million number that looked completely reasonable a couple days ago is looking on the way low side now.

 

[GatorTruth133]

The problem is that there is literallly NOTHING to do with the Shannon. What are you going to do? Play zone w 6-7 in the box to protect the LBs and safeties who are weak in coverage? Or put an extra guy or two in the box to protect the weak DL vs the run and leave the dbs and lbs (eek!) in man to man?

Either one guts your throat cut w this defense.

Is there talent? Sure, but the talented Dbs are freshmen. Same at DT. DE? They are great for pass rush, bit we have 8 weakside DEs and no run stuffers who set the edge.

LB....well, maybe we can recruit better in the future.

Is Shannon great? no he is an average old school 4-3 zone DC.

But he sure as hell isnt the problem on D.

Piling on, do you think the team was even in the mood to play when Mac tells them at the team meal the rumors that the game might be his last. That was a bad call and definitely helped keep the team coming out flat. I wonder if defensive plays were only ran once (as someone pointed out Ackerman said offensive plays were in another thread), that would definitely stunt the growth of the young guys...remember we have only one 3rd year or more LB that isn't a walk-on with Cronkrite's scholarship

 

[lagator]

If he does an admirable job to close out the year I can see a "Co-defensive coordinator" job for him for 2018 with the new hire bringing in his guy to be the actual DC. Then Stricklin telling Shannon he has a whole year to find a HC job since we only need one DC in 2019.

 

[RiverRat]

I'm listening to Ackerman and Matthews.

Brady just opined that he doesn't believe that a young coach could handle the pressure at UF.

In other words, Ackerman's not willing to GAMBLE on a young coach.

Some of you will get that. :)

 

[gatormandan]

If he does an admirable job to close out the year I can see a "Co-defensive coordinator" job for him for 2018 with the new hire bringing in his guy to be the actual DC. Then Stricklin telling Shannon he has a whole year to find a HC job since we only need one DC in 2019.

I think Randy is gone after we hire our new guy. Best to him.

 

[lagator]

I think Randy is gone after we hire our new guy. Best to him.

Keep in mind we will be trying to hold together and even build on a highly ranked recruiting class. Again, I wouldn't be surprised at all if SS used his influence to try to buy Shannon another year, unless we tank and lose most of the remaining games (which is certainly a possibility) in which case his azz will be kicked out of town on the Nuss Bus.

 

[gatormandan]

Keep in mind we will be trying to hold together and even build on a highly ranked recruiting class. Again, I wouldn't be surprised at all if SS used his influence to try to buy Shannon another year, unless we tank and lose most of the remaining games (which is certainly a possibility) in which case his azz will be kicked out of town on the Nuss Bus.

I think Randy should have fired Nuss in the first 15 minutes of his promotion.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Piling on, do you think the team was even in the mood to play when Mac tells them at the team meal the rumors that the game might be his last. That was a bad call and definitely helped keep the team coming out flat.

I'm not sure it mattered. Frankly, I thought this defense would have more injuries and be playing more walkons and freshmen by this point.

I think it was stupid. Perhaps Butters thought the kids would rally. Oh well.

But I doubt it changed the game.

 

[lagator]

I think Randy should have fired Nuss in the first 15 minutes of his promotion.

And put in SOS as interim OC, right? I don't think there is anyone to take over the job, we have to pay him anyway, the season's shot, and unlike Mac, Nuss keeping his job is in no way impeding our moving forward with a new coach and new hope.

There's just no reason to fire Nuss until the season is finished. Maybe if we happen to play in a bowl game they will cut him free before that game, but otherwise he might as well serve out his time.

 

[gatormandan]

And put in SOS as interim OC, right? I don't think there is anyone to take over the job, we have to pay him anyway, the season's shot, and unlike Mac, Nuss keeping his job is in no way impeding our moving forward with a new coach and new hope.

There's just no reason to fire Nuss until the season is finished. Maybe if we happen to play in a bowl game they will cut him free before that game, but otherwise he might as well serve out his time.

You wont find me believing that SOS would ever take over anything as nice as it would be. At this point, we know Nuss is pure crap and promoting the basketball guy Mac hired as an assistant last year couldnt be much worse.

 

[oxrageous]

Just as I was pretty positive that he would be our primary target and that he would be interested, I also would bet money he ultimately will be looking to move to the NFL as a HC, so coming to a program that has the best chance of early success will likely be important to him.

He really doesn't have an NFL-style offense. Chip certainly didn't have much luck with it.

 

[AugustaGator]

The problem is that there is literallly NOTHING to do with the Shannon. What are you going to do? Play zone w 6-7 in the box to protect the LBs and safeties who are weak in coverage? Or put an extra guy or two in the box to protect the weak DL vs the run and leave the dbs and lbs (eek!) in man to man?

Either one guts your throat cut w this defense.

Is there talent? Sure, but the talented Dbs are freshmen. Same at DT. DE? They are great for pass rush, bit we have 8 weakside DEs and no run stuffers who set the edge.

LB....well, maybe we can recruit better in the future.

Is Shannon great? no he is an average old school 4-3 zone DC.

But he sure as hell isnt the problem on D.

Ding ding ding..

 

[Crunchtime]

Can you imagine any coach on the "list" doing this to prepare there team for something they rarely see??? Scott Frost actually took over as QB of the scout team before UCF played Navy to show them how to shut it down.

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/scott-frost-option-ucf-practice-navy/403373

 

[oxrageous]

Can you imagine any coach on the "list" doing this to prepare there team for something they rarely see??? Scott Frost actually took over as QB of the scout team before UCF played Navy to show them how to shut it down.

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/scott-frost-option-ucf-practice-navy/403373

Crunch! Haven't seen you in literally 3 years. Awesome to see so many members come out of the woodwork.

 

[lagator]

He really doesn't have an NFL-style offense. Chip certainly didn't have much luck with it.

I know and agree, but he would likely be less involved in the X's and O's in the NFL. He is a leader and just has that look to me of a guy who would do well in the NFL and may have those aspirations. All the coaching names associated with him other than Osborne are NFL guys.

 

[jdh5484]

The problem is that there is literallly NOTHING to do with the Shannon. What are you going to do? Play zone w 6-7 in the box to protect the LBs and safeties who are weak in coverage? Or put an extra guy or two in the box to protect the weak DL vs the run and leave the dbs and lbs (eek!) in man to man?

Either one guts your throat cut w this defense.

Is there talent? Sure, but the talented Dbs are freshmen. Same at DT. DE? They are great for pass rush, bit we have 8 weakside DEs and no run stuffers who set the edge.

LB....well, maybe we can recruit better in the future.

Is Shannon great? no he is an average old school 4-3 zone DC.

But he sure as hell isnt the problem on D.

The offense needed to carry the D this year, much like they did in 2007. The O blows. The D has done very well considering. When they grow up they'll be tenacious (assuming they get through this season without major injuries).

 

[rogdochar]

A big chomp welcome River Rat :