Well, he beat the hell out of LSU & they damn near beat Bama with their 2nd string QB. So, I guess your right......
Yes you are right he did improve MState, but for 9 years he could not get over the hump. Good coaches can do that, great coaches do better and sooner, thats what we are looking for. Its clear that DM will be ok but will never break through. 7 million dollars buys us mediocrity.Agreed. Dan Mullen's Mississippi State teams were not as good as Alabama, LSU, and Auburn during the same time frame. BREAKING NEWS: Mississippi State is not as good as Alabama, LSU, and Auburn. How many games should he reasonable have been expected to win? Like I mentioned earlier, MSU had won only 37 games in the nine years before Mullen got there and he won 69. How did he do it? Luck?
I understand wanting Chip Kelly or Scott Frost but both of them chose other schools instead of Florida. Be pissed that the University of Florida gets passed over for UCLA. Be pissed that the University of Florida can't get the UCF coach to even interview. Don't make up arguments as to why Dan Mullen can't coach.
Results? Like Mullen losing nearly every game to a ranked team while at Miss State. No way anybody can say this is a good hire. This is worse than the muschamp or mcelwain hires because this guy has a well known track record of losing and the fan base hates him. It was the worst choice possible. Seriously Kiffen, Petrino, anybody with any baggage would've been a better choice. I'd take dozens of guys over Mullen.Geez, dude, he's only trying to be logical about the whole thing. Excitement is one thing, results is another.
Results? Like Mullen losing nearly every game to a ranked team while at Miss State. No way anybody can say this is a good hire. This is worse than the muschamp or mcelwain hires because this guy has a well known track record of losing and the fan base hates him. It was the worst choice possible. Seriously Kiffen, Petrino, anybody with any baggage would've been a better choice. I'd take dozens of guys over Mullen.
No. That's not me talking. That's the 33-39 SEC record talking. Good God, this guy is 1970's retro offense. Gator nation is going to break their jaws yawning at the stuff EVERYONE else can figure out.....
Long time lurker here. I wanted to run this up the flagpole.
I'm not a huge fan of the hire, but it's what I've expected from day one, so I've wrapped my head around it. Allow me to make the case.
1. Meyer's pre-UF success involved a partnership with Mullen. Impressive records, offenses, QBs.
2. He was UF's OC for four seasons. Offense improved every year.
2005-Early struggles, Leak is not an option QB, Mullen cobbles together some solutions, Outback Bowl, success.
2006-Mullen recruits/develops the GOAT option QB and weaves him expertly into a hybrid offense of his own design, natty.
2007-Mullen's QB in full control, record setting offense, Heisman.
2008-Offense is a runaway train, should've been another Heisman, natty.
3. The moment Mullen leaves UF the offense, even with TT at the helm, regresses.
4. Mullen has elevated MSU and probably reached that program's ceiling. I haven't researched this assertion, and I'm open to being proven wrong. It feels like he has made them a consistent top 25 team. I don't believe they ever were before. He has found and developed QBs that weren't can't miss 5 stars.
That's my argument. I could name five guys I would be more excited about, but I'm going to jump on the CDM train and hope it goes back to the promised land. Unfortunately, I don't think we're likely to know for two years. Oh well.
Long time lurker here. I wanted to run this up the flagpole.
I'm not a huge fan of the hire, but it's what I've expected from day one, so I've wrapped my head around it. Allow me to make the case.
1. Meyer's pre-UF success involved a partnership with Mullen. Impressive records, offenses, QBs.
2. He was UF's OC for four seasons. Offense improved every year.
2005-Early struggles, Leak is not an option QB, Mullen cobbles together some solutions, Outback Bowl, success.
2006-Mullen recruits/develops the GOAT option QB and weaves him expertly into a hybrid offense of his own design, natty.
2007-Mullen's QB in full control, record setting offense, Heisman.
2008-Offense is a runaway train, should've been another Heisman, natty.
3. The moment Mullen leaves UF the offense, even with TT at the helm, regresses.
4. Mullen has elevated MSU and probably reached that program's ceiling. I haven't researched this assertion, and I'm open to being proven wrong. It feels like he has made them a consistent top 25 team. I don't believe they ever were before. He has found and developed QBs that weren't can't miss 5 stars.
That's my argument. I could name five guys I would be more excited about, but I'm going to jump on the CDM train and hope it goes back to the promised land. Unfortunately, I don't think we're likely to know for two years. Oh well.
This isn't an excuse. If he wasn't a Loser he would have won SOME of those games. He's 1-26!! ONE WIN AND TWENTY SIX LOSSES vs top 25. Dude...Dude, did it occur to you that the ranked opponents were mainly SEC West opponents and that there's no shame in that when you're recruiting for f*king MSU? Give the guy a chance recruiting this state as Florida's coach.