Alabama Crimson Tide buses leave OC Lane Kiffin at stadium

[Swamp Donkey]

We know. You love Mustank and Bert.

 

[Yankeetown]

There's a huge difference between pounding the ball without recruiting and building a powerful offensive line. The reason receivers are so open for an average at best QB like Coker is because the everydown threat of getting the football rammed down your throat repeatedly.....BTW when did Muschamp have a power back?????

If we're going to discuss offense, then everything Muschamp is totally off the table. We all know he had zero clue about anything to do with running an offense. (But how quickly you have forgotten Matt Jones, 6'2" and +/- 230 lbs., that's a good-sized back.)

We need some patience here, grasshopper(s).

Just for funnzies, I'll cite some history on the current King of College Football Coach, (the devil) Nick Saban. With comparisons to our current guy.

in his first stint as a head coach, Saban was 9-2 at Toledo in his one and only year. He then spent a couple of years in the NFL as a DC.

In his first stint as head coach, McElwain was at Colorado State for 3 years, with progressively better records of 4-8, 8-6, and 10-2. (Advantage, McElwain.)

In his second stint as a head coach, at Michigan State, Saban started with 4 years where he was 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5 and 6-6. Then in the 5th year jumped to 9-2. His MSU record after the first 4 years was a not real impressive 25-22-1.

In his second stint as a head coach, at Florida, Jim McElwain's team had a 10-4 record in his only year to date, and was 7-1 in conference in the regular season. Picked to finish 5th or 6th in the Eastern division, the Gators unexpected were conference champions, despite major shortcomings in the offensive line and QB. (Advantage, McElwain. End of comparisons, at comparable points in the coaching careers.)

Nick Saban went on to LSU (4 losses, 3 losses, 5 losses, 1 loss, 3 losses) and one National Championship before going to the NFL.

In the NFL, his approach .. whatever you think his special sauce is ... didn't work, and he quickly returned to the college game. At the Dolphins, he was 9-7 and 6-10. He'd had 50% records before, but that was his first losing season.

At this point, with 13 years of experience as a head coach, but a collective record of 106-59-1 by my count (64%), Saban went to Alabama and had learned enough to create the college football dynasty we see today.

Let's face it, after Saban's start at Michigan State of 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5 and 6-6, 98% of us would have said "he ain't got it, and he ain't ever going to get it." But we would have been wrong.

Give McElwain some time. Get another restful hobby to fill your off-season time, like fishing or quilting or mumbley-peg.

(Sorry for the length.)

 

[gatormandan]

Yankeetown, your gonna have em jumping off cliffs with all that logic...

 

[Concrete Helmet]

If we're going to discuss offense, then everything Muschamp is totally off the table. We all know he had zero clue about anything to do with running an offense. (But how quickly you have forgotten Matt Jones, 6'2" and +/- 230 lbs., that's a good-sized back.)

We need some patience here, grasshopper(s).

Just for funnzies, I'll cite some history on the current King of College Football Coach, (the devil) Nick Saban. With comparisons to our current guy.

in his first stint as a head coach, Saban was 9-2 at Toledo in his one and only year. He then spent a couple of years in the NFL as a DC.

In his first stint as head coach, McElwain was at Colorado State for 3 years, with progressively better records of 4-8, 8-6, and 10-2. (Advantage, McElwain.)

In his second stint as a head coach, at Michigan State, Saban started with 4 years where he was 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5 and 6-6. Then in the 5th year jumped to 9-2. His MSU record after the first 4 years was a not real impressive 25-22-1.

In his second stint as a head coach, at Florida, Jim McElwain's team had a 10-4 record in his only year to date, and was 7-1 in conference in the regular season. Picked to finish 5th or 6th in the Eastern division, the Gators unexpected were conference champions, despite major shortcomings in the offensive line and QB. (Advantage, McElwain. End of comparisons, at comparable points in the coaching careers.)

Nick Saban went on to LSU (4 losses, 3 losses, 5 losses, 1 loss, 3 losses) and one National Championship before going to the NFL.

In the NFL, his approach .. whatever you think his special sauce is ... didn't work, and he quickly returned to the college game. At the Dolphins, he was 9-7 and 6-10. He'd had 50% records before, but that was his first losing season.

At this point, with 13 years of experience as a head coach, but a collective record of 106-59-1 by my count (64%), Saban went to Alabama and had learned enough to create the college football dynasty we see today.

Let's face it, after Saban's start at Michigan State of 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5 and 6-6, 98% of us would have said "he ain't got it, and he ain't ever going to get it." But we would have been wrong.

Give McElwain some time. Get another restful hobby to fill your off-season time, like fishing or quilting or mumbley-peg.

(Sorry for the length.)

Solid post. I don't agree with your description of Matt Jones though. He was big but not really that powerful...Think Richardson, Gurley, Fournette, Ingram, guys like that.Maybe if we had better lines when he was here I would see it differently.

 

[t-gator]

Is it really that hard to be the OC at Bama? When you have the best OL in the country, year in and year out, you really don't have to be that creative.

I agree

 

[crosscreekcooter]

I agree

This may go down as one of your best yet. Epic.

 

[t-gator]

This may go down as one of your best yet. Epic.

You get me man!

 

[rogdochar]

… suggested knitting, some misheard nit-picking.