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Mullen is not in Spurrier's zip code in terms of offensive minded. Mullen does not attack people offensive ala Spurrier he hopes to wear them down maybe.
Correct. My reference to offensive mindedness is based simply on both are offensive coaches....Almost exact opposites in strategy. SOS was a headhunter in that he tried to put teams on the ropes early and they often threw in the towel by the 3rd quarter.....Mullen on the other hand likes to work the body in the early rounds then throw hooks and uppercuts later in the fight...

Mullen may not be in SOS's zip code and likely won't end up there but I'll say he did add a few wrinkles into the game plan later in the season....I'll watch for him to continue this trend before pulling the plug on him. Hell outside of the ability to utilize athlete's Urban Meyer's(Mullen's) system was not nearly such a thing of beauty as SOS but brought outstanding results.
 

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Option and screens vs fun and gun will never be comparable. SOS regularly scored on 3-5 plays. Mullinz is about ball control, though obviously not a run and punt offense.
 

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Option and screens vs fun and gun will never be comparable. SOS regularly scored on 3-5 plays. Mullinz is about ball control, though obviously not a run and punt offense.
In defense of Mullens offense it is easier to teach "average talent" and average QB's to execute screens and options....I might be off base here a little because like most fans I get too caught up in watching the results of the plays but it seems to lend itself to an easier to learn blocking scheme from a lineman's POV...There's not as much pressure on the oline because there's not as much downfield passing particularly early in the game when Dlinemen are fresh....

Fun and Gun required precise execution from the opening bell and QB, linemen and WR's were required to have their sh!t together from the opening play.....SOS demanded it.
 

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Mullen is not in Spurrier's zip code in terms of offensive minded. Mullen does not attack people offensive ala Spurrier he hopes to wear them down maybe.
Getting people open in space isn't exactly the definition of trying to wear people down. Spurrier attacked from the air from the opening kickoff WHEN he had the right personnel. Mullen is more balanced and selective, but to suggest he isn't aggressive in his playcalling is to admit you're not seeing a whole bunch of his offensive DNA. He's a brilliant playcaller.
 

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Getting people open in space isn't exactly the definition of trying to wear people down. .
Screen passes. That is what getting people open in space means. Dont try to act like screen passes are some new invention.

Perhaps it was to the Notre Dame people who thought anything other than 90% option was dynamic.

His game is screen passes, options, and designed keepers depending on the box numbers. That is this offense.

He is a middle school playcaller. Want me to show you the playbooks? Why do you think the scouting report on all Gator receivers from the CUM years was "Cant Run Routes"?

What he is good at is isolating certain defensive players and picking on them. Youd think that would be a universal skill in college but not so given the current de-evolution of the game.
 
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Spurrier has stated that defenses were a helluva lot simpler to take advantage of back then. FWIW.
 

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Spurrier has stated that defenses were a helluva lot simpler to take advantage of back then. FWIW.
There were a lot more soft cover 2 zones (Zook, Shannon style). More blitizing now but that is just landing a good OL coach. SOS always had a pretty sad coaching staff, minimum wage of course, at UF. They had no idea how to handle Nebraska's zone blitz.

Plenty of teams line up 5 wide, including Mulkinz, and get the ball off. The primary adjustment is zone blocking. It isnt new. Absolutely everyone runs it at least some now.

Every decent passing team back to Richt w Fatford has caused Bammer problems. There are still terribly weak vs pass if your OL can hold long enough to let the QB pass.

SOS w Cawky talent beat Saban at the peak.

A young SOS w Fla talent would destroy Saban regularly.
 
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There were a lot more soft cover 2 zones (Zook, Shannon style).

However, every decent passing team lately back to Richt w Fatford has caused Bammer problems. There are still terribly weak vs pass if your OL cant hold long enough to let the QB pass.

SOS w Cawky talent beat Saban at the peak.

A young SOS w Fla talent would destroy Saban regularly.
Stafford at 6'3 232 and you call the kid fat? Man that's tough.
 

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SOS is Gator football. Period. His 12 years will never be replicated in so many ways. CUM won one more natty, but SOS's just felt better. He named the Swamp. He created Gator swagger, not thug swagger, but the swagger of knowing, just knowing, he was going to chuck it around the park and hang 60 whoever was the sacrificial lamb defense that day. And we'll never forget his run of SEC titles and never-ending and often brutal rape of the Humpers. And his witty turn of phrase.

All that said, Mullen looks like Lombardi, Walsh and Belichick all rolled into one compared to Butters and Duncecramp. :lol:
 

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Maybe he should consult with Mac for some help with that.

Yep Mac could show him how in your first year to not get whipped at home by a team you have beat for 30 plus years and how not to get beat down 2 times to division rivals on your home field in addition to getting beat at a neutral field by your biggest SEC foe. :D
 

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Screen passes. That is what getting people open in space means. Dont try to act like screen passes are some new invention.

Perhaps it was to the Notre Dame people who thought anything other than 90% option was dynamic.

His game is screen passes, options, and designed keepers depending on the box numbers. That is this offense.

He is a middle school playcaller. Want me to show you the playbooks? Why do you think the scouting report on all Gator receivers from the CUM years was "Cant Run Routes"?

What he is good at is isolating certain defensive players and picking on them. Youd think that would be a universal skill in college but not so given the current de-evolution of the game.
Get back to me when you've got something better to offer than a ridiculous oversimplification of Mullen. You're bored. Go spend some time with your wife and kids. You're burned out.
 

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:lmao2: Dude, Mullinz runs a middle school offense. It is what it is. Count the people in the box and run this or that play.

And it isn't even slightly innovative. Everyone runs this play book. Everyone.

Have you ever seen coaches lining up for a Dan Mullinz coaching clinic?
 

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:lmao2: Dude, Mullinz runs a middle school offense. It is what it is. Count the people in the box and run this or that play.

And it isn't even slightly innovative. Everyone runs this play book. Everyone.

Have you ever seen coaches lining up for a Dan Mullinz coaching clinic?
109th to 46th in total offense in 12 months after being handed what can be generously described as a crappy roster.

Don't try to bring comparisons with Mac. He created the disaster Mullen inherited.

You're trolling.
 

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SOS is Gator football. Period. His 12 years will never be replicated in so many ways. CUM won one more natty, but SOS's just felt better. He named the Swamp. He created Gator swagger, not thug swagger, but the swagger of knowing, just knowing, he was going to chuck it around the park and hang 60 whoever was the sacrificial lamb defense that day. And we'll never forget his run of SEC titles and never-ending and often brutal rape of the Humpers. And his witty turn of phrase.

All that said, Mullen looks like Lombardi, Walsh and Belichick all rolled into one compared to Butters and Duncecramp. :lol:
:exactly:
 

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