Gators Caravan

[GatorTruth133]

This isn’t shooting the messenger, Truth.
I appreciate you posting this. Just commenting on these points.

A) Get bent. You’ve been here for 15 minutes. So done with people coming in and wanting to change things that are perfectly fine.

B) If there was an ounce of genuine in this statement then he would’ve addressed this completely in the offseason and not made a mockery of us all just days ago in that interview. This feels like SS pushing him to make the appearance of conceding to quiet the noise.

For sure.

A) I think a lot of people, including the guy behind me that said we started the ___________ nation thing, basically gave him the silent treatment when suggesting it.

Side note: when speaking with my logo guy for the podcast he had said something along the congregation line and I said hell no. I think Kelley kind of got that reaction in Orlando.

B) I agree, probably lip service to quiet noise, but that assumes he understands there is noise. I played the original clip from Pate for my mom afterward and she understood the frustration and EPA double down. Though she did appreciate he at least said what he did at the Caravan.

I’ll add the C) how you take 2 questions from kids (pre-written on stuff that many people including myself seemed to miss on the way in) and one from an adult of any substance would be baffling, but knowing where we are, it’s a preventative measure.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Fbut that assumes he understands there is noise.

I was assured there was no noise and that it is just the creation of a handful of gidiots.

 

[TN G8tr]

Sean Kelley wants to drop “Gator Nation” and go with Congregation because it’s a group of Gators.

Thank for posting.

Kelley can go jump off a cliff. I would prefer that the Gator Nation drop him.

 

[AuggieDosta]

That's exactly what it is. Lip service to appease the justified indignation, nothing more. I'm looking forward to the day that gator nation gets to bend over and have him kiss our collective ass.

Ahem, Gator Congregation!

 

[AuggieDosta]

And @GatorTruth133 , thanks for posting his visit comments!

 

[Double Gator Dad]

No offense, but anyone standing in a line for HIS autograph is a dumbass.

Napier should be waiting in line for our autographs

 

[oxrageous]

Gator Fans: Napier shows no accountability!

Napier: Shows accountability. Says there is no excuse and the criticism is justified.

Gator Fans: Yeah, but he didn't mean it!

 

[Theologator]

For sure.

A) I think a lot of people, including the guy behind me that said we started the ___________ nation thing, basically gave him the silent treatment when suggesting it.

Side note: when speaking with my logo guy for the podcast he had said something along the congregation line and I said hell no. I think Kelley kind of got that reaction in Orlando.

B) I agree, probably lip service to quiet noise, but that assumes he understands there is noise. I played the original clip from Pate for my mom afterward and she understood the frustration and EPA double down. Though she did appreciate he at least said what he did at the Caravan.

I’ll add the C) how you take 2 questions from kids (pre-written on stuff that many people including myself seemed to miss on the way in) and one from an adult of any substance would be baffling, but knowing where we are, it’s a preventative measure.

What do we expect him to say?

 

[soflagator]

Gator Fans: Napier shows no accountability!

Napier: Shows accountability. Says there is no excuse and the criticism is justified.

Gator Fans: Yeah, but he didn't mean it!

Ok, let’s not go full stephen here. If the criticisms were warranted, why didn’t he make a demonstrable change? The guy has been given 10x the fan support that the previous two hires have. He’s stubbornly staying the course with a system that isn’t working, then arrogantly using cherry picked stats to argue that it is. Very few people didn’t want him, or still don’t want him, to succeed here. But he is making it very difficult for people to like him.

 

[Theologator]

Napier should be waiting in line for our autographs

He is. To Florida Victorious.

 

[LagoonGator68]

Thank for posting.

Kelley can go jump off a cliff. I would prefer that the Gator Nation drop him.

Gator Congregation, go write the great American novel.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

Gator Fans: Napier shows no accountability!

Napier: Shows accountability. Says there is no excuse and the criticism is justified.

Gator Fans: Yeah, but he didn't mean it!

so he just misspoke last week when he scoffed at the notion and stated that the stats show our STs were some of the best in the country? You know as well as I do that if he meant what he said a few days later he would have clarified that in fact, "yes, after a lot of fan frustration and a national narrative that we were bad at STs, I went back, took another look and discovered we were in fact awful the last 2 years, not good as i had said a few days ago. Rest assured we will get things fixed and I am devising a plan to address the shortcomings." Then perhaps to avoid the "perception" by some that his words are still just lip-service, he could identify the specific issues with the STs so we know hes serious, he's identified the problems, and hes being willingly accountable to those specific issues moving forward.

his comments last week, combined with his new comments yesterday are a long winded equivalent of, "Yea... no. If that makes sense."

It doesnt.

 

[I Have No Friends :(]

If that asshat tries to push Congregation again somebody punch him; I'll cover your bail.


*provided the courthouse takes oxbucks

 

[Concrete Helmet]

not even for the free pigs in a blanket?

When I think of Donkey at a Napier speaking event...

 

[soflagator]

When I think of Donkey at a Napier speaking event...

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I’m torn on whether this would by NoFriends, Durty or myself at that same event.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

I’m torn on whether this would by NoFriends, Durty or myself at that same event.

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[AuggieDosta]

Ok, let’s not go full stephen here. If the criticisms were warranted, why didn’t he make a demonstrable change? The guy has been given 10x the fan support that the previous two hires have. He’s stubbornly staying the course with a system that isn’t working, then arrogantly using cherry picked stats to argue that it is. Very few people didn’t want him, or still don’t want him, to succeed here. But he is making it very difficult for people to like him.

 

[soflagator]

Student support, 2 years of sellout home games, Gator walk practically impossible to get near unless you grabbed a spot at the barricades 2 hours early. Yes, the fanbase rallied around Napier way more than they did Mullen or McElwain. This was supposed to be a new chapter with someone who cared and was organized and committed enough to restore the brand, something neither of the last coaches had shown. Even now, I think a majority of people would rather win with him than with JM or DM. You can’t blame them for turning on someone who seems dead set on doing things his way in spite of mountains of evidence that isn’t working. They’re rightly pissed. But that doesn’t dismiss the welcome and support he initially received.

 

[LagoonGator68]

Student support, 2 years of sellout home games, Gator walk practically impossible to get near unless you grabbed a spot at the barricades 2 hours early. Yes, the fanbase rallied around Napier way more than they did Mullen or McElwain. This was supposed to be a new chapter with someone who cared and was organized and committed enough to restore the brand, something neither of the last coaches had shown. Even now, I think a majority of people would rather win with him than with JM or DM. You can’t blame them for turning on someone who seems dead set on doing things his way in spite of mountains of evidence that isn’t working. They’re rightly pissed. But that doesn’t dismiss the welcome and support he initially received.

Nothing on God’s green Earth is cheaper than talk and that’s all Napier has accomplished at the end of the day. He lost most of his remaining supporters with the Arkansas disaster last year. It’s just the sad truth.

 

[soflagator]

Nothing on God’s green Earth is cheaper than talk and that’s all Napier has accomplished at the end of the day. He lost most of his remaining supporters with the Arkansas disaster last year. It’s just the sad truth.

Dead on. I sit in a pretty balanced, older alum section and that game was just a towel throw type moment. I think most still like the person he appears to be, similar to Muschamp, so it’s not as toxic as I’ve seen in other cases. But the disbelief and “I give up on this guy” expressions abounded.

Winning 11(as ugly as they were) in 2012 gave that glimmer of hope to some. Back to back East titles(as weak as it was) did the same for McElwain. And 10 & 11 win years to start helped them put up with his other deficiencies. At this stage, there’s nothing to cling to with Napier. The collapse of the class last fall, combined with the 0-for to finish dispelled any thoughts that he might be the guy for the job.