Recruiting Marcus Tatum talks Recruitment

[alcoholica]

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas...-just-didnt-click-with-an-sec-head-coach-well

What school came in second? What could they have done a little better? I can be honest now. It’s Florida. The thing they could have done better for me is more involvement from the position coach I’d actually be playing at. I didn’t really have a good relationship with (offensive line) coach (Mike) Summers as I would have liked to have. I don’t know why. That’s just how it worked out I guess. I didn’t talk to him as often as I wanted to. But (Tennessee) coach (Don) Mahoney, I talked to all of them everyday. That’s something they (Florida) could have done better.

If you could give a junior ONLY one piece of advice about the recruiting process, what would it be? Throughout the recruiting process, get to know the players. Don’t get caught up in all the coaches because the coaching will change. It will change fast. The coach that’s been recruiting you all these years could just switch schools because he wants to, better for his family or a personal situation like that. Always get connected with players and the recruits more than the coaches.

So he didn't come to UF because Summers didn't kiss his ass enough. But wait, don't pick a college based on coaches. So what are we supposed to believe. So do you think is was cash or the promise of getting away with rape that got him to UT?

 

[MJMGator]

Trying to decipher the thought process of a teenager is an exercise in futility.

 

[Double Gator Dad]

Classic recruiting double talk makes it easy to assume that there was another "influence" out there.

Everybody talks about facilities and academics (which really cracks me up) as being the keys to success when the reality is that many of these guys are simply going where the money is or where the "tolerance" is and we always lose in those areas.

 

[rogdochar]

His recruitment decision might have been base on the women he bumped into.?

 

[Kyng]

Is this the OL that weighed like 250lbs? No thanks.

 

[GatorBart]

Let's face it guys, Tatum is a moron. A Florida kid (who has potential for a lot of PT in his career if he chooses the good guys) picks ButtChugU who we've beat 11 times in a row. And now that the dumpster fire up in hillbilly land is in full blaze, I can only shake my head and wonder who was advising this kid about his choice of schools. A moron advised by morons. That's about all I have to say on the matter.

 

[GatorBart]

Is this the OL that weighed like 250lbs? No thanks.

Yep, 254 according to Rivals. He's got a big frame and he would have redshirted in effort to bulk him up.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/164410

 

[GatorJ]

I'm gonna kind of side with the kid here. Well, not necessarily with him but against our staff.

Summers was pretty lights out recruiting two cycles back. But this last cycle he was just asleep at the wheel. There are many times when I saw breakouts of where coaches went out and Summers was not even on the list.

Now does this mean that Summers can't coach? Of course not. But I just think that he's older and he just can't keep up with recruiting anymore. Maybe it was something personal that prevented him from getting out much last year or maybe it's just the fact that he's older. I think it's one reason why there is a lot of chatter bandied about that he's only a year or two from retirement.

I think that is one reason also why we hired that OL coach as a QC coach. To my understanding, QC coaches can talk to recruits. And if he's going to eventually replace Summers, then it's a good fit.

 

[aka]

We didn't want his dumb a$$ anyway.

 

[NoGaGator]

Summers was never regarded as much of a recruiter per se, but more as the calmer, more celebral coach to which OL's better relate. Not to judge by Tatum, but they may need to reassess.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I hope we don't recruit any 250lb linemen in the future. Too much "hope and prayer" involved in them adding 50 lbs.

 

[alcoholica]

I hope we don't recruit any 250lb linemen in the future. Too much "hope and prayer" involved in them adding 50 lbs.

Yeah, DJ couldn't add 25lbs let alone 50lbs

 

[oxking]

Summers was never regarded as much of a recruiter per se, but more as the calmer, more celebral coach to which OL's better relate. Not to judge by Tatum, but they may need to reassess.

Well, when it comes to the big uglies, you better have someone who can recruit. No offense is going to go far if the line leaks.

 

[rogdochar]

We need to Ventures forth to get a Samoan pipeline... go to a Japanese Sumo school
and make a college pitch to those misguided teens. Be great to see UF get into downhill
blocking, pushing DLs on their butts. Get crafty Macencrew, outside the box. While you're
at it, sign a 6'10" high-school basketball player for TE, measure his hands. There, I said it.

[I miss Zambo and his "heard it through the apevine".]
Get back on GC, there's bananas for you here.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

We need to Ventures forth to get a Samoan pipeline... go to a Japanese Sumo school
and make a college pitch to those misguided teens. Be great to see UF get into downhill
blocking, pushing DLs on their butts. Get crafty Macencrew, outside the box. While you're
at it, sign a 6'10" high-school basketball player for TE, measure his hands. There, I said it.

[I miss Zambo and his "heard it through the apevine".]
Get back on GC, there's bananas for you here.

Why did he leave?

 

[LagoonGator68]

I'm gonna kind of side with the kid here. Well, not necessarily with him but against our staff.

Summers was pretty lights out recruiting two cycles back. But this last cycle he was just asleep at the wheel. There are many times when I saw breakouts of where coaches went out and Summers was not even on the list.

Now does this mean that Summers can't coach? Of course not. But I just think that he's older and he just can't keep up with recruiting anymore. Maybe it was something personal that prevented him from getting out much last year or maybe it's just the fact that he's older. I think it's one reason why there is a lot of chatter bandied about that he's only a year or two from retirement.

I think that is one reason also why we hired that OL coach as a QC coach. To my understanding, QC coaches can talk to recruits. And if he's going to eventually replace Summers, then it's a good fit.

Really????.....JFC ...

better? I can be honest now. It’s Florida. The thing they could have done better for me is more involvement from the position coach I’d actually be playing at. I didn’t really have a good relationship with (offensive line) coach (Mike) Summers as I would have liked to have. I don’t know why. That’s just how it worked out I guess. I didn’t talk to him as often as I wanted to. But (Tennessee) coach (Don) Mahoney, I talked to all of them everyday. That’s something they (Florida) could have done better.

Summers may be the BEST, most experienced assistant coach we have and he doesn't need to be calling teenagers out of his recruiting territory and wasting his limited time every friggin day.
Tatum is a moron, hope his momma enjoys the drive to see him ride the pine.

 

[GatorJ]

Really????.....JFC ...

better? I can be honest now. It’s Florida. The thing they could have done better for me is more involvement from the position coach I’d actually be playing at. I didn’t really have a good relationship with (offensive line) coach (Mike) Summers as I would have liked to have. I don’t know why. That’s just how it worked out I guess. I didn’t talk to him as often as I wanted to. But (Tennessee) coach (Don) Mahoney, I talked to all of them everyday. That’s something they (Florida) could have done better.

Summers may be the BEST, most experienced assistant coach we have and he doesn't need to be calling teenagers out of his recruiting territory and wasting his limited time every friggin day.
Tatum is a moron, hope his momma enjoys the drive to see him ride the pine.

This is recruiting Goon. It's part of what these coaches do. I know some you want to pretend like recruiting is not necessary or it's ridiculous. But it's part of their job and part of what they need to do.

It's why Coach Mac virtually lived in Eddie Piniero's house. It's why Saban virtually lived with Wilson Mack the last week of the season.

Over the last 10 years when I've been recruited for a job. The one that pays me the most attention and comes after me the hardest tends to be closer to getting me to sign up.

And yes, it may be not "part of his territory" but it is his position. It's the position that he has influence over and we need talent at. This notion that they can't cross territories is not true. It's why Torrian Gray has Lakeland and Tampa (and is working on closing 5* James Robinson) but he is also working hard on flipping Shaun Wade up in Jacksonville (Not his "territory") because he wants that talented kid in his secondary. Recruiting is one reason why Callahan is gone and Gray came in.

 

[LagoonGator68]

This is recruiting Goon. It's part of what these coaches do. I know some you want to pretend like recruiting is not necessary or it's ridiculous. But it's part of their job and part of what they need to do.

It's why Coach Mac virtually lived in Eddie Piniero's house. It's why Saban virtually lived with Wilson Mack the last week of the season.

Over the last 10 years when I've been recruited for a job. The one that pays me the most attention and comes after me the hardest tends to be closer to getting me to sign up.

And yes, it may be not "part of his territory" but it is his position. It's the position that he has influence over and we need talent at. This notion that they can't cross territories is not true. It's why Torrian Gray has Lakeland and Tampa (and is working on closing 5* James Robinson) but he is also working hard on flipping Shaun Wade up in Jacksonville (Not his "territory") because he wants that talented kid in his secondary. Recruiting is one reason why Callahan is gone and Gray came in.

funniest thing any head coach said to you during the entire recruiting process, either on phone or in person? I remember when (Florida) coach Mac (Jim McElwain) first saw me. He was just surprised how tall I was. It was funny how he always looked at me. He’d say, “Man, you get taller and taller and taller everytime, everytime, everytime.” That was always funny to me. I was there so often so it was like he could see me grow.

Which coach was it the hardest to say no to? That you weren’t coming there? (Receivers) coach (Kerry) Dixon and (defensive line) coach (Chris) Rumph at Florida. It was really hard to tell them that.

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[alcoholica]

I think we forget that most of these kids grow up without a dad. They don't know what it's like to have a strong male influence. So I think they can get a little stupid when it comes to the attention.