Single-season greatness: 2007 Tebow, 2010 Newton or 2012 Manziel?

[78]

No poll, just opinion. Try and cast your bias and animosity toward Newton or Manziel aside.

These were three monster seasons. All three won the Heisman. Newton led his team to a national title. Manziel stayed drunk.

(I had to cut and paste Newton's stats together because the page ran long.)

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

Cam, because he won the title. But I’ll take 2008 Tebow over just about anyone.

 

[78]

I forgot just how gaudy Manziel's stats were in 2012. 3,706 yards passing, another 1,410 on the ground. Against the SEC West. That's simply amazing.

 

[RocketCityGator]

I refuse to set my bias aside so I'll recuse myself.

 

[GatorJ]

Statistically, they were both better than Tebow in those years. 2007 was Tebow’s best year statistically. Statistics can be misleading. 2008 was his best year. He was an absolute machine. No way the barn or A&M beats that OU team.

2008 OU is one of the all time great runner ups.

 

[SeabeeGator]

F turning off bias. Tebow is my pick because he was the best leader, stats be damned.

 

[CGgater]

Tebow is my pick because he was the best leader, stats be damned.

This. All day long.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

F turning off bias. Tebow is my pick because he was the best leader, stats be damned.

And he also isnt a scumbag criminal who embarrassed his university.

 

[oxrageous]

And Tebow was absolutely screwed for the Heisman in 2008, even worse than Grossman getting screwed in 2001.

 

[SeabeeGator]

And Tebow was absolutely screwed for the Heisman in 2008, even worse than Grossman getting screwed in 2001.

Every journalist from Big 12 country left him off the ballot. Tebow was far and away the runaway winner everywhere else. It was complete BS.

 

[78]

Bradford's numbers in 2008.

 

[soflagator]

Something to consider, Manziel and Newton(though to a lesser extent) both had the benefit of a measure of anonymity in their epic seasons, especially early on.

Due to the cancelling of the opener, our defense keeping him in check in week 1, and then a series of mediocre-to-bad opponents, it wasn't until around midseason that Manziel really started to make a name for himself.

Newton had some average games against real competition early on in 2010 as well, before breaking out and dominating.

I'm not taking anything away from either player, as they were both crazy good. But the one difference with Tebow is that everyone knew he was coming. He'd already made some noise as a role player in 2006, so he did not enjoy the surprise element that the other two had. Teams had film, and teams were preparing to try and stop him long before he even started a game. So that, combined with more TD's and my obvious bias gives him the nod over Newton, with JM coming in 3rd.

 

[Gator Fever]

Newton probably. He was the difference between having a 4 loss season that year probably.

 

[GatorJ]

Something to consider, Manziel and Newton(though to a lesser extent) both had the benefit of a measure of anonymity in their epic seasons, especially early on.

Due to the cancelling of the opener, our defense keeping him in check in week 1, and then a series of mediocre-to-bad opponents, it wasn't until around midseason that Manziel really started to make a name for himself.

Newton had some average games against real competition early on in 2010 as well, before breaking out and dominating.

I'm not taking anything away from either player, as they were both crazy good. But the one difference with Tebow is that everyone knew he was coming. He'd already made some noise as a role player in 2006, so he did not enjoy the surprise element that the other two had. Teams had film, and teams were preparing to try and stop him long before he even started a game. So that, combined with more TD's and my obvious bias gives him the nod over Newton, with JM coming in 3rd.

And statistically, his biggest year was probably his senior year

 

[Jbossgator8]

Tebow ALL the way. Cam is Scum and UF/Muschamp beat that Manziel team so that makes him invalid.

 

[Alumni Guy]

A hate Cam, but he won them a natl championship by himself. The year after he left Gene Chizik got fired and they had a losing record.

Tebow had the benefit of some Great Receivers (even David Nelson, had a decent NFL career), a great line, and a solid D.

Timmy is the man, but sCam was not human that year

 

[Swamp Donkey]

The year after MALZAHN left Gene Chizik got fired and they had a losing record.

fify

 

[78]

fify, but, yeah, he's a pretty good QB no matter who's coaching.

FIFY

 

[Himey]

Is it worthy of a ban to pose this question in the first place?

 

[ChiefGator]

Tebow of course. His leadership on and off the field. His massive impact in the real world including helping children with severe issues. His team attitude first, last and always. And taking the team on his back almost always.

Neither of the others show anything much outside of the field, and statics don't show that much either.