UPDATE: QB Malik Zaire officially a Gator

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We've seen repeatedly that 6 foot QBs have had plenty of success. If your only point about why you don't want Zaire is his height, then you really don't have anything.
And he couldn't win the starting job in 3 seasons at ND.
But really it's the 6 foot thing.
 

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He got Wally Pipp'd by a soon to be 1st/2nd round QB. It's not like he was battling the Del Rio or Driskel's of the world.
He couldn't beat Everett Golson 2 years in a row. Let that sink in.
But mostly it's the 6 foot thing.
 

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He couldn't beat Everett Golson 2 years in a row. Let that sink in.
But mostly it's the 6 foot thing.
I would stick to the couldn't beat everett golson out argument and the he was a back up on a 4-8 team. The 6 foot thing is making you look retarded. You could also try the he's not a very good passer argument too. Just trying to help a brotha out here. I'm rootin for ya.
 

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He couldn't beat Everett Golson 2 years in a row. Let that sink in.
But mostly it's the 6 foot thing.

You mean after Golson lead them to the National Title game? I wouldn't really expect him to beat out an experienced Golson.

Zaire was declared the starter in 2015 (he beat out Kizer) until injury. He's much more talented than probably all our QBs (Franks is only one who could potentially be better).
 

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I would stick to the couldn't beat everett golson out argument and the he was a back up on a 4-8 team. The 6 foot thing is making you look retarded. You could also try the he's not a very good passer argument too. Just trying to help a brotha out here. I'm rootin for ya.

ND being 4-8 means nothing. They had a plenty good offense led by a stud QB, but had an abysmal defense (and coaching). Kinda like UF in reverse.
 

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He couldn't beat Everett Golson 2 years in a row. Let that sink in.
But mostly it's the 6 foot thing.
Our other QBs

1. Couldnt beat out Oregon Sts 1 and 2
2. Couldnt get an offer as a QB (but several as WR)
3. Couldnt complete passes vs air and has a windup like a right fielder
4. Get any Div 1 or Div 2 offers and has less experience than a good high school freshman QB halfway through his first season.
 
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Bottom line: I don't think we are in position where we can turn down a QB like Zaire considering how crappy our QBs have been. He's no world beater, but he'd undoubtedly be one of our top 2 options (and good insurance if Franks beats him out)
 

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ND being 4-8 means nothing. They had a plenty good offense led by a stud QB, but had an abysmal defense (and coaching). Kinda like UF in reverse.
I don't have a huge problem with it. Just saying there are better arguments against him than his height.
 

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ND being 4-8 means nothing. They had a plenty good offense led by a stud QB, but had an abysmal defense (and coaching). Kinda like UF in reverse.

That QB didn't make plays when ND needed them in the 4th quarter. He pumped his numbers up against the patsies a lot also. You don't go 4-8 against their schedule with a good QB. We will see what happens with Zaire. I don't think he is some star but I think he is better than anyone on the roster probably.
 

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I do wonder when in the running will turn into either he is coming or not. Now there are some NFL QBs who are short and good, height helps but having a brain and a great arm, not to mention a team around you is much more important. I don't know much about this player so I have no good opinion as to if he would be great. I do know we are somewhat short of arms so he would be nice to have.
 

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Malik Zaire Game Log

1 2014-08-30 Rice W 2 Rushes 58 Yards
2 2014-09-06 Michigan W 2 Rushes 9 Yards
3 2014-11-08 @ Arizona State L 1 Rush 6 Yards
4 2014-11-29 @ Southern California L 9 of 20 (45.0%) 170 Yards 0 TD 0 INT 116.4 QBR 6 Rushes 18 Yards 1TD
5 2014-12-30 N Louisiana State W 12 of 15 (80.0%) 96 Yards 1 TD 0 INT 155.8 QBR 22 Rushes 96 Yards 1 TD

6 2015-09-05 Texas W 19 of 22 (86.4%) 313 Yards 3 TD 0 INT 250.9 QBR 9 Rushes 16 Yards
7 2015-09-12 @ Virginia W 7 of 18 (38.9%) 115 Yards 1 TD 0 INT 110.9 QBR 10 Rushes 87 Yards

8 2016-09-04 @ Texas L 2 of 5 (40.0%) 23 Yards 0 TD 0 INT 78.6 QBR 3 Rushes 0 Yards
9 2016-09-10 Nevada W 4 of 9 (44.4%) 49 Yards 0 TD 0 INT 90.2 QBR 5 Rushes 5 Yards
10 2016-09-24 Duke L 2 Rushes -8 Yards
11 2016-10-08 @ North Carolina State L 1 Rush -1 Yards
12 2016-10-15 Stanford L 0 for 2 (0.0%) 0 Yards 3 Rushes 3 Yards
13 2016-11-12 N Army W 1 of 1 (100.0%) 6 Yards 150.4 QBR 6 Rushes 35 Yards
14 2016-11-19 Virginia Tech L 1 of 1 (100.0%) 14 Yards 217.6 QBR
15 2016-11-26 @ Southern California L 3 of 5 (60.0%) 30 Yards 1 TD 0 INT 176.4 QBR

Career Passing
15 Games 58 of 98 (59.2%) 816 Yards 8.3 YPA 6 TD 0 INT 149.3 QBR

Career Rushing
72 Rushes 324 Yards 4.5 Average 2 TD


So against teams that on average are going to have worst defenses than what he'll play against in the SEC he was only 59% which will probably drop when he plays against our opponents. So this kid won't be much different than Del Rio, except he might can run a little bit. I guess I like the fact he had 0 Ints.
 

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So against teams that on average are going to have worst defenses than what he'll play against in the SEC .
The SEC is terrible in pass defense. If you can avoid getting sacked it is easy pickings.

Therefore all the teams try to run the ball bc its fvkking 1950 again.

Some team with sufficient talent to run the offense will eventually hire the next SOS and blame this shyt up again, eventually.
 

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The SEC is terrible in pass defense. If you can avoid getting sacked it is easy pickings.

Therefore all the teams try to run the ball bc its fvkking 1950 again.

Some team with sufficient talent to run the offense will eventually hire the next SOS and blame this shyt up again, eventually.


Do we finally have the Oline to block long enough to exploit this? Assuming we find a competent QB that is.
 

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So against teams that on average are going to have worst defenses than what he'll play against in the SEC he was only 59% which will probably drop when he plays against our opponents. So this kid won't be much different than Del Rio, except he might can run a little bit. I guess I like the fact he had 0 Ints.

Zaire as the starting QB already beat the SEC's best defense that year in a bowl game.
 

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Do we finally have the Oline to block long enough to exploit this? Assuming we find a competent QB that is.
We have neither the O line nor the QB and most importantly no playcaller sufficiently talented to even rise to below average as an offense.
 
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Zaire as the starting QB already beat the SEC's best defense that year in a bowl game.


Maybe this kid has some intangibles that our other current QB's don't have, and I certainly don't think it hurts to have another option at QB. Just would be nice to quit relying on average grad transfers to come in and be our QB.
 

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We have neither the O line, the QB and most importantly no playcaller sufficiently talented to even rise to below average as an offense.


Maybe we should petition the NCAA to outlaw the forward pass and try to bring the competition closer to our level then.
 

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With Franks developing from now up through some early season "creampuffs", our offense will
be one to be proud of. I'm believing we will beat Michigan. If UM's pass rush is too tight, Franks
will have great runs. UM defense will be stretched. All in all, these Gator players, both O & D
will (for the first time) have the confidence and drive of a "titanium-team". That is, each & all will frequently outmaneuver their face-offs and thwart the O & D of Michigan.

Our Red-Zone play opportunities will be much increased, thus successful. Franks changes past ineptness. Eddie's still Eddie, more gimmie putts. All our RBs are more experienced at carrying tacklers. We've got a maximum of tall, swift WRs and TEs. There's experience enough to upgrade
our newcomers faster.

From what Mac was bequeathed, yes he's stumbled uphill.
Still, we're uphill from shadow of the valley of Chump.
And from uphill, if you can't see better views, then you're locked-looking at the fog-abyss that we,ve stumbled out of. For just one example I've seen posted many times about how fed up some are that we've had Offenses ranked in the 100s for 5-7 years straight, no decent QB since Tebow left.. Well, Mac has put only 2 of those offenses on the field - freshmen & sophomores of his choosing. In Mac UF got a "start-up" coach (all blue bloods were emotionally & financially locked in). Mac is having to teach himself and everybody else how to "become" winners in the SEC grind.
UF's W-L record shows superiority in # of wins to all but Alabama -{ the best of the best}-. Let's look forward to our 2017 best season -- even if you don't like doing that.??

PS>> I'm sure that there are facts in there somewhere, anyway orange & blue doesn't excite me because those 2 colors are factually orange & blue.
 
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