Make Gator Football great again!

[MooseSmack]

With a QB who can't throw for shyt

True!

 

[alcoholica]

Let's just put this Top 15 composite to rest. Per 247, these are our top talent. Look at our top 25 players talentwise, and explain why we shout be ranked anywhere near the top 15.

1. Jason Marshall - should be a depth piece
2. Kelby Collins - Freshman
3. Kamari Wilson - Bust
4. Teradja Mitchell - Bust
5. Ja'keem Jackson - Freshman
6. Shemar James - Sophmore, Star player, out for season
7. Derek Wingo - Bust
8. Graham Mertz - playing well
9. Scooby Williams - contributing
10. Tyrek Sapp - contributing
11. Keon Zipperer - injured
12. Chris McClellen - contributing
13. Jalen Kimber - plays like ass
14. Aiden Mizell - Freshman
15. Eugene Wilson III - Freshman Star player
16. Dijon Johnson - Freshman
17. Roderick Kearney - Freshman
18. Kamran James - Freshman
19. Ja'Quavion Fraziers - Bust
20. Ethan Pouncey - Bust
21. Trevor Etienne - Star player
22. Marcus Burke - Bust
23. Will Norman - Freshman
24. Jordan Castell - Freshman
25. Sharif Denson - Freshman

So long as Billy can recruit, we need to hold on until the roster is full.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

Yep, players are either great or they aren't. Coaching and development has zero to do with it.

 

[alcoholica]

Dabo's first three years
4-3 - taking over for Tommy Bowden
9-5
6-7

Keeping in mind that he inherited the CJ Spiller teams

Mike Norvell at FSU
3-6 COVID
5-7
10-3

This is with what was considered huge portal success.

Both coaches had the luxury of playing in the ACC as well.

I keep pointing to 2025 as our year to breakthru and start winning consistently at a high level. I think Billy can be a very successful coach here, but he must continue to recruit and also realize that he needs help at OC and ST. I'd be fine with keeping Sale and getting rid of the younger guy for a recruiter. UL had some really good OL's under Sale.

 

[FireFoley]

Let's just put this Top 15 composite to rest. Per 247, these are our top talent. Look at our top 25 players talentwise, and explain why we shout be ranked anywhere near the top 15.

1. Jason Marshall - should be a depth piece
2. Kelby Collins - Freshman
3. Kamari Wilson - Bust
4. Teradja Mitchell - Bust
5. Ja'keem Jackson - Freshman
6. Shemar James - Sophmore, Star player, out for season
7. Derek Wingo - Bust
8. Graham Mertz - playing well
9. Scooby Williams - contributing
10. Tyrek Sapp - contributing
11. Keon Zipperer - injured
12. Chris McClellen - contributing
13. Jalen Kimber - plays like ass
14. Aiden Mizell - Freshman
15. Eugene Wilson III - Freshman Star player
16. Dijon Johnson - Freshman
17. Roderick Kearney - Freshman
18. Kamran James - Freshman
19. Ja'Quavion Fraziers - Bust
20. Ethan Pouncey - Bust
21. Trevor Etienne - Star player
22. Marcus Burke - Bust
23. Will Norman - Freshman
24. Jordan Castell - Freshman
25. Sharif Denson - Freshman

So long as Billy can recruit, we need to hold on until the roster is full.

Where is Umpa-Loompa or whatever his name is? I think he plays hard only a few plays a game but he does not dog it as much as Sux Cox did last year.

 

[Gatorraid81]

Dabo's first three years
4-3 - taking over for Tommy Bowden
9-5
6-7

Keeping in mind that he inherited the CJ Spiller teams

Mike NorveLLLL at FSU
3-6 COVID
5-7
10-3

This is with what was considered huge portal success.

Both coaches had the luxury of playing in the ACC as well.

I keep pointing to 2025 as our year to breakthru and start winning consistently at a high level. I think Billy can be a very successful coach here, but he must continue to recruit and also realize that he needs help at OC and ST. I'd be fine with keeping Sale and getting rid of the younger guy for a recruiter. UL had some really good OL's under Sale.

Watching his press conference today, he still doesn't seem to think he needs help with ST. Lol

 

[alcoholica]

Yep, players are either great or they aren't. Coaching and development has zero to do with it.

Don't spin, is that or is it not a top 15 level of talent?

 

[alcoholica]

Watching his press conference today, he still doesn't seem to think he needs help with ST. Lol

I doubt he wants to dance on the guy's grave. If he doesn't know, then he really does need to be fired.

 

[alcoholica]

Where is Umpa-Loompa or whatever his name is? I think he plays hard only a few plays a game but he does not dog it as much as Sux Cox did last year.

He was actually #26

 

[FireFoley]

Dabo's first three years
4-3 - taking over for Tommy Bowden
9-5
6-7

Keeping in mind that he inherited the CJ Spiller teams

Mike NorveLLLL at FSU
3-6 COVID
5-7
10-3

This is with what was considered huge portal success.

Both coaches had the luxury of playing in the ACC as well.

I keep pointing to 2025 as our year to breakthru and start winning consistently at a high level. I think Billy can be a very successful coach here, but he must continue to recruit and also realize that he needs help at OC and ST. I'd be fine with keeping Sale and getting rid of the younger guy for a recruiter. UL had some really good OL's under Sale.

Clearly your two examples are correct and the numbers are the numbers. But I am quite sure for every two that look like those two there 10of those for every two who go the complete opposite after year 2 or year 3. I do not watch those teams you cite close enough to have had an opinion after year 1, 2 or 3. But I have seen more than enough of Billy Taggert to know recruiting alone will not change anything. Taggert has to make monster changes in other areas if his numbers are going to change.

 

[alcoholica]

Clearly your two examples are correct and the numbers are the numbers. But I am quite sure for every two that look like those two there 10of those for every two who go the complete opposite after year 2 or year 3. I do not watch those teams you cite close enough to have had an opinion after year 1, 2 or 3. But I have seen more than enough of Billy Taggert to know recruiting alone will not change anything. Taggert has to make monster changes in other areas if his numbers are going to change.

I think most rational people know that OC, ST, and likely OL need to be addressed. If the OL coaches can secure Jordan Seaton, then I think they can buy a year. I also think the OL looks much better if the RT from UK didn't have to transfer.

I'll go even further and say that we need to evaluate all the coaches, including Raymond. RB's continue to look good, but we only have two WR's worth a damn. Secondary sucks, and we can't generate a pass rush. LB is ok, knowing that help is coming with this next class.

 

[t-gator]

I think most rational people know that OC, ST, and likely OL need to be addressed. If the OL coaches can secure Jordan Seaton, then I think they can buy a year. I also think the OL looks much better if the RT from UK didn't have to transfer.

I'll go even further and say that we need to evaluate all the coaches, including Raymond. RB's continue to look good, but we only have two WR's worth a damn. Secondary sucks, and we can't generate a pass rush. LB is ok, knowing that help is coming with this next class.

This is kinda why I struggle to see a future here. We're already talking about a 3rd DC. We need to hire an OC, special teams coach and fire one or both of our oline coaches. I mean , at what point do we decide it's Napier's fault? And then we have to decide is one recruiting class worth another losing season?

 

[Durty South Swamp]

This is kinda why I struggle to see a future here. We're already talking about a 3rd DC. We need to hire an OC, special teams coach and fire one or both of our oline coaches. I mean , at what point do we decide it's Napier's fault? And then we have to decide is one recruiting class worth another losing season?

Relax we just need to jettison another 50% of the roster, and upgrade another 50% of the staff, then in another 2 seasons we may be competitive.

 

[Altitude Gator]

This is kinda why I struggle to see a future here. We're already talking about a 3rd DC. We need to hire an OC, special teams coach and fire one or both of our oline coaches. I mean , at what point do we decide it's Napier's fault? And then we have to decide is one recruiting class worth another STRING OF losing seasons?

FIFY

 

[Bushmaster]

I would not fire Napier this year or next year. I would force his sorry ass to coach this **** until he begged me to let him quit and would do it then.

All but one of the head coaches UF fired since Zook got a HC gig and millions in pay out. I would force BNs hand and not fire. He will ruin himself for future gigs and assistants will as well being tainted by this. Make him coach every damn year and let the losses and shifty coaching run him out of coaching and destroy his brand. Don't fire him and let him off the hook with another coaching gig. F that payout.

University ADs have to quit with these huge buyouts for sorry ass coaches. Firing a coach for losi g records and bone head decisions should not result in generational wealth.

 

[Grumbler]

He gets the buyout anyway, so just keep paying him and demote him to Assistant to the Recruiting Manager. Then hire a real coach.

 

[AugustaGator]

Stop hiring morons from the sunbelt and mountain west . Go take someone’s coach . We are Florida . It shouldn’t be difficult to hire a competent football coach . Yet here we are again with another dog**** HBC.

Let’s steal TAM’s coach!

 

[Bait'n Gator]

I think most rational people know that OC, ST, and likely OL need to be addressed. If the OL coaches can secure Jordan Seaton, then I think they can buy a year. I also think the OL looks much better if the RT from UK didn't have to transfer.

I'll go even further and say that we need to evaluate all the coaches, including Raymond. RB's continue to look good, but we only have two WR's worth a damn. Secondary sucks, and we can't generate a pass rush. LB is ok, knowing that help is coming with this next class.

The OL took a big step back this year so he gets a pass on keeping his 2 buddies there in 2023. But special teams and play calling were atrocious last year and there should of been changes made. That's on him, Sam Pittman fired coaches 2 weeks ago and beat our ass his very next game.

He's not cut throat enough on the football field nor in his hiring practices. But he did set his family up for life just like the last 3 duds, so good on him for that I guess.

 

[ted]

A big part of it is listening to the hbc ramble on about character and responding the right way among other jargon that doesn’t motivate or get guys fired up to play. Combine that with missed assignments and a extremely poor OL and you’ll gonna end up one of the worst teams in the league . If Billy was at Arkansas there isn’t a doubt in my mind they would be 0-9 right now .

Let’s steal TAM’s coach!

The future next coaching search is going to be difficult. UF really can’t go group of 5 , that experiment would have failed twice. Can’t go up and coming assistant, that really sucked. Who is out there that is a dead lock, grand slam hire? A few names can be eliminated as pipe dreams….Kirby, Saban, Sark, Harbaugh. That leaves a bunch of candidates that have a bunch of warts, and the money will be ridiculous. It will be North of 10.5 per year to poach a successful coach from a p5 program and we will still be paying off Mullen and BN. Jeez……

 

[Gatorbait25]

I would not fire Napier this year or next year. I would force his sorry ass to coach this **** until he begged me to let him quit and would do it then.

All but one of the head coaches UF fired since Zook got a HC gig and millions in pay out. I would force BNs hand and not fire. He will ruin himself for future gigs and assistants will as well being tainted by this. Make him coach every damn year and let the losses and shifty coaching run him out of coaching and destroy his brand. Don't fire him and let him off the hook with another coaching gig. F that payout.

University ADs have to quit with these huge buyouts for sorry ass coaches. Firing a coach for losi g records and bone head decisions should not result in generational wealth.

The players have already quit. I’ve seen more physicality from six year olds playing flag than our men played with in OT. Our guys know he is a loser and he provides no incentive or motivation for them .