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You got the gone part right. His 24 years as an AD with UF certainly was much longer than most ADs last.
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Foley's larger failure: Facilities or Butters?
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One of the critical responsibilities of any profession is knowing the limits of your expertise.
Foley could have avoided tarnishing his career by admitting he was unqualified to be as deeply involved in the ID and vetting process as he was.
Instead he dived in head first.
Foley could have avoided tarnishing his career by admitting he was unqualified to be as deeply involved in the ID and vetting process as he was.
Instead he dived in head first.
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I suspect it would be almost impossible to know enough about every sport to function well enough. However as the leader of a 200 million plus enterprise he has significant resources available and certainly should have been able to bring appropriate expertise to review the situation, not just the hiring processes but also the day to day operations so that things like Nussdrunk sucks or our asst coaching staff was bottom of the barrel isnt a surprise.
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He definitely missed on his last two Saban related football coaches. Saban was winning national championships so Foley incorrectly assumed those two could successfully implement the Saban system at UF. Florida's talent pool is more suited to Mullen and Meyer's system. All AD's miss on coaching hires.
Of course over all UF's success on the football field while Foley was AD was the best in UF history and one of the best in the country.
Then he brought in national championships in hoops when everyone said it could not be done at UF.
Though he blew the recent football hires Foley recently hired the baseball coach that got UF its first baseball national championship in our history.
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Foley was admired by the other ADs for what he accomplished without ever going on NCAA probation.
He handed a financially strong balance sheet over to Stricklin and did all the unpopular fund raising program's first. Stricklin walked in with a debt free Athlete academic center (which is the best in the SEC), a debt free Oconnell center major renovation and a brand new IPF. Of course our other sports programs are the best over all in the SEC.
Now Stricklin can fund raise for the more popular football and baseball facilities with the borrowing power to make it happen.
Due to UAA's long term thinking UF will be a power again in football once the new football facilities and brand new baseball stadium are finished. In spite of Foley's recent bad choices of football head coaches, UF's strong balance sheet is still intact.
Over all he had a great career as the UF AD with nothing to be ashamed of as all ADs miss on head coach hires.
Stricklin is walking into UF with no NCAA problems or debt problems and can put his stamp on the new football and baseball facilities. Foley set him up well for the future.
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Yeah we heard all about that. He was so admired by all the ADs that he was surely going to be the SEC commish.
Oops.
Well surely he will be Big 12 commish.
Oops.
Well Sunbelt. Or CUSA.
Well, he always wanted to retire now anyway.
Yeah.... he was so admired by other ADs that they quickly hired him away.
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Well before Foley retired from UF the SEC had already hired our last SEC AD's right hand man who had been with him for 12 years and had been doing a great job. You are doing apples to Oranges. The SEC promoting someone training to be SEC commissioner for a decade is not a slam at any of the SEC's ADs.
"Greg Sankey is limping around on a knee that is feeling the effects of 41 marathons, most of which he has run during the last 12 years when he has been working as the Southeastern Conference commissioner’s right-hand man."
Counter to your apples to oranges statement about national AD's opinions (who had nothing to the SEC's choice of hiring someone who had been training for over a decade for that position) this is how AD's really saw it:
From 1997–2002, Foley served on the NCAA Division I Management Council, the most powerful group (below the Board of Directors) within the NCAA.[6]
In June 2006, Street & Smith named Foley as its SportsBusiness Journal National Athletics Director of the Year.[9]
The National Football Foundation awarded Foley the John L. Toner Award in 2007, recognizing him as its national athletic director of the year.[5]
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I didn't like the last football hires either. It is a fact. But that fact does not exclude the other factual things Foley accomplished. He was the second longest tenured AD in the country. You do not stay on at a tough school like UF that long without accomplishing alot of good factual things.
Like:
"Florida had won a national championship in each of the past seven years and captured 14 national team titles since 2009, the highest total in the country."
National AD's would not admire the above? Plus it was done without NCAA probation.
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Spare me the paid promo and allow me to point out categorically that the cost to wait and pay cash severely outweighed the hypothetical financing costs during a period of historically low interest rates.
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No paid promo. I just think you should look at all the facts not just a few.
If bubbles never burst you would be right but all bubbles burst. When debt bubbles pop, he who is in most debt has the biggest problem.
The Fed has used all of its tricks to keep the debt bubble from bursting. Eight years of zero interest rate policy have used up the Fed's main weapon (lowering interest rates).
Obviously you do not know that throughout human history that deflation is the norm (not the inflation we have had the last thirty years) and deflation kills debtors. If there was no deflation your theory would be correct but unfortunately deflation is a very real risk. Thomas Jefferson said that the bankers would end up owning everything through inflation and deflation. You are only looking at the inflation side.
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I'm not going to bother to point out that ZIRP is a thing of the past or that your reply is really "out there" in relation to the topic.
No, I'm going to point out that you're my new favorite poster. :-)
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Feel free to point out the fact that I said that is incorrect if you can.
If you understood ZIRP you would know that the Fed is now nervous that they waited too long to terminate ZIRP. They are trying to raise rates so they can use ZIRP again. Of course yesterday they had to give a more dovish statement about raising rates to keep the markets up.
Anyone who understands ZIRP knows that it is not a thing of the past and that they would like to increase rates so they can use ZIRP again. Unfortunately the debt bubble has grown so large that it is difficult for them to raise rates.
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I know ZIRP. I also know from these UAA thought train tangents of yours that you are borderline
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You made a nonsensical post loaded with financial buzz words based on your interpretation of UF's tactical and economic mindset with regard to facilities. I pointed out the absurdity in your logic.
What else would you like to talk about, sir? This is a sports forum, not a venue for debate over US monetary policy. Take that irrelevant crap to the PF.
