***OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: UF vs Miami***

[GatorInGeorgia]

Agree normally but the armless attempt at a tackle on the RB on that long run was atrocious. Wilson was excusable - he had his arms around the RBs legs but he just ran out of it. Henderson just dove at him.

Very refreshing to see you actually get it. Maybe itraz will when he sobers up...or studies up.

 

[Gator-Don]

I hate Herby

 

[YLGator]

I really doubt Mullen trained or asked Frank's to throw that pass.

Sadly he did both.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

No, I’ve played plenty of ball. Funny, I was going to say you must not watch much nor know much about football. Championship teams don’t have pzzy azz DBs that shoulder bump opposing RBs or WRs and let them break free for TDs. The great teams have 11 guys that know what their job is and do it. Wrap up & tackle. C.J.’s late whiff was especially glaring as it wasn’t even a difficult open field tackle. It was in traffic and the Miami player had already been slowed down by our lineman. No excuse for it. If you think I’m wrong on this point, go back and watch again and listen to the announcer (Herbstreit I think) pretty much say the same thing; that it’s a matter of wanting it. If your D-line can’t rely on the DBs to cover for them if they make a mistake, you’re not going to have a championship level defense, that’s just the reality of it. You should put down the bottle if you want to have a cogent discussion.

I thought that the guy who slowed him down prevented CJ from hitting him. CJ had committed to the hit so that when the arm tackle slowed the runner down, CJ went in front. Certainly,CJ made no effort to wrap up.

 

[Oklahoma Gator]

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

I’m dense? This all started when Albert asked if CJ ever been in a tackling drill, ever. You know, to learn proper tackling form? Your responses to his comment (You’ve already lost if you’re asking a DB to tackle a running back) and my comments are idiotic. We’re asking the DB to actually use good form to TRY AND TACKLE the ballcarrier. Does the RB ever break a tackle...sure. Does the DB ever successfully tackle the RB when he plays fundamentally sound defense...yes, quite often and when he doesn’t he typically slows the ballcarrier down enough until he gets help from a teammate to bring him down. That’s how we did it when I played. Apparently you didn’t do it that way when you played? Damn, you must either be drunk or retarded.

 

[Sec14Gator]

We needed Franks to take another leap forward this off-season for us to have a chance to make some real noise this season.

Franks regressed. The biggest aspect was he again misread the give/keep read on the read option at least 4-5 times. That willingness last year made a big difference and it went away.

Second, he decided where he was throwing before it developed on multiple occasions.

Overall though, I think a lot of this is on Mullen not taking my advantage of MIami’s biggest defensive weakness - safeties. We challenged them (per the tv view) limited times but with open receivers nearly every time. But we kept throwing only screens and other passes that relied on beating a good cb and very good lb’s. I just didn’t understand the offensive gameplan and avoiding attacking the safeties deep across the middle (unless Mullen flat out does not trust Franks). Neither did Spurrier understand wtf we were doing.

 

[Frozen Gator]

Miami is a pain in the azz, we lose all discipline when we play them. The last few decades it seems like two street gangs having a ghetto war masquerading as a football game.

 

[YLGator]

Mullen needs to get his head out of his ass and admit that Franks is irredeemable. Time to go with anyone but Franks.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

I hate Herby

To each his own. I actually think Herbie is a good commentator.

 

[Gatorraid81]

Ugly win, but gonna make next week at work a lot more enjoyable.

 

[SeabeeGator]

I think he was ok but I doubt he’s happy with his play. Missed tackles, at least one PI, etc. He’s been and will be better.

 

[YLGator]

If this is what Franks is, whats the point in playing him. Give Trask or EJ a shot, or just run the wildcat with Toney. Dude is flat out awful.

 

[KronoGator]

Why did Davis try to stand up with it?

Thought he tried to stand up to avoid some fat Miami guy falling on top of him.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

What are you babbling about regarding college teams purposely not blocking DBs and what the hell does that have to do with the DB missing a tackle b/c he didn’t wrap up. Newsflash for you; it doesn’t matter if the DB is in position to make a tackle because he beat his blocker or was just left unblocked as you claim...when the DB is in position to make a tackle, he needs to play fundamental football, put effort into the tackle and wrap up. It’s really pretty simple. Oh, and if you don’t believe me and you don’t believe Herbstreit, just listen to Mullen talking to the sideline reporter at halftime. He said the same thing. I guess you don’t think he knows what he’s talking about either, though.

Apparently you’ve never heard the phrase “run support” before. It’s what DBs do on running plays to assist the D-line. And no, often times they aren’t well blocked on run plays...not because the offense doesn’t want to block them, rather, because the receiver has a different objective on the play (think decoy) or the play unfolds too quickly for the offense to get a good block on him. Neither really applies here or on the other countless times our defense and C.J. whiffed on tackles. Apparently you’re one of the few who didn’t see it. Fans at the game saw it, those of us watching on T.V. saw it and the announcers so it to the point of mentioning it ad nauseam.

As far as C.J.’s play, he played average at best, maybe a C/C-. He got beat by the receiver in the end zone late in the game. Fortunately for us, the receiver couldn’t secure the catch. Make no mistake, though, the receiver got separation from him. I dunno, maybe in your mind C.J. gets a good grade on that play despite the fact he got lucky because of the Miami player’s failure to secure the catch?