Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

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We can take them all. We have NOT been at capacity for a decade and have early enrollees to count back. "Counters" can count back as well.

The only issue really is the Foley "Never Over 85" Rule even we know 5 or so kids will leave like every year.

I thought i read that we had a cap at 28 for this year, including the count backs. How many counters do we have available?
 

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I thought i read that we had a cap at 28 for this year, including the count backs. How many counters do we have available?
What did we have? 7 EEs last year and 25 total?

People talk out of their ass. The journalists are the worst. There several different counts. There's a count of the number of people you can sign on signing day, max 25 BUT you can countback EEs if you have empty slots from the previous class. We signed 25 but 7ish were EEs so really eight more seats were unfilled. We could fill those this year. (Im guessing w the math, someone find a link and a solid number for EEs and I will change it later if necessary.)

And there's a SEPARATE COUNT of initial counters.

It's important to understand that it's a separate count because maybe somebody signs on signing day but never actually gets to the school on scholarship. that means some of the people that signed on signing day are not initial counters. We had several guys do that last year. Arjei Henderson, Hammond, Black and Wilson.

The initial counters that received scholarships (25-4) does include transfers though, so Cox was an initial counter. even Walk-Ons count as an initial counters when they are awarded a scholarship I feel like one walkon was awarded a scholarship but I forget who. (Am I right?) There is a limit for 25 additional calendars also but they too can count back under essentially the same rules. So I think that math is 21+ Cox t+ walkon -7 ish early enrollees count back to the year before, equals 16ish so maybe 9 earlies this year (never happen) could count back to last year.

You can also see how valuable it is to have a kid that's an early enrollee, if you have empty slots from the class prior.

You really can't listen to the numbers from the Twitter and "journalists". These just blur it all together.

I've heard we want to take 28 but that's because it brings the number 85 total, it doesn't mean that's all we can take. By the time we lose people to the NFL and people to transfers I fully expect the number to be sitting around 32 for our max signees and and perhaps even 34 total including transfers, assuming we lose enough to have room on the 85.

in the end I doubt we get to 85 again this year. actually I'm not sure that we ever get to 85 the Fooley still in the room.
 
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3 players within the last hour have decommitted from FSU

Keyshawn Greene is the latest (as well as big country)
 

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these dumbasses just blur it all together.
Speaking of all blurred together why is there just one BIG recruiting thread anymore.....it sucks and is hard to follow when I don't have time to check in on recruiting frequently.....did I mention it sucks. Bring back a recruiting forum on here.
 

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3 players within the last hour have decommitted from FSU

Keyshawn Greene is the latest (as well as big country)

@InsideTheGators: Greene told Inside the Gators a few weeks ago that Florida had been in contact, bit the Gators were currently, at that time, in 4th place
 

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What did we have? 7 EEs last year and 25 total?

People talk out of their ass. The journalists are the worst. There several different counts. There's a count of the number of people you can sign on signing day, max 25 BUT you can countback EEs if you have empty slots from the previous class. We signed 25 but 7ish were EEs somreally eight more seats were unfilled. We could fillmthose this year. (Im guessing w the math, someone find a link and a solid number for EEs and I will change it later if necessary.)

And there's a SEPARATE COUNT of initial counters.

It's important to understand that it's a separate count because maybe somebody signs on signing day but never actually gets to the school on scholarship. that means some of the people that signed on signing day are not initial counters. We had several guys do that last year.

The initial counters does include transfers though, so Cox was and initial counter. even Walk-Ons count as an issual counters when they are awarded a scholarship. there is a limit for 25 additional calendars also but they too can count back under essentially the same rules. So the 7 ish early enrollees count back to the year before.

you can also see how valuable it is to have a kid that's an early enrollee, if you have empty slots from the class prior.

you really can't listen to the numbers from the Twitter and "journalists". These just blur it all together.

I've heard we want to take 28 but that's because it brings the number 85 total, it doesn't mean that's all we can take. by the time we lose people to the NFL and people to transfers I fully expect the number to be sitting around 33 for our max.
For those of you who read all that and aren’t confused, you clearly don’t understand the situation.
 

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3 players within the last hour have decommitted from FSU

Keyshawn Greene is the latest (as well as big country)

More evidence that there is no coaching agreement in place. If nothing else, Haggins, who’ll undoubtedly have a place on any new staff, would be convincing these guys to hold tight until Monday. They have nothing right now.
 

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Speaking of all blurred together why is there just one BIG recruiting thread anymore.....it sucks and is hard to follow when I don't have time to check in on recruiting frequently.....did I mention it sucks. Bring back a recruiting forum on here.
I bitched about this a few years ago and was basically told STFU...
 

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Speaking of all blurred together why is there just one BIG recruiting thread anymore.....it sucks and is hard to follow when I don't have time to check in on recruiting frequently.....did I mention it sucks. Bring back a recruiting forum on here.
no not a recruiting forum, but maybe recruiting threads for each position or something so you can keep it somewhat straight.

instead we are only allowed separate recruiting threads for garbage transfer quarterbacks.

we had a recruiting forum and all it was was a damn dungeon for old recruiting threads.

what we should have is a football forum and a basketball and other non-revenue sports forum, so we don't have people bitching about the recruiting threads getting more hits than the tiddlywinks or bouncy ball threads.
 

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More evidence that there is no coaching agreement in place. If nothing else, Haggins, who’ll undoubtedly have a place on any new staff, would be convincing these guys to hold tight until Monday. They have nothing right now.
These guys could easily commit back if the Noles get a decent hire, but if they commit elsewhere, it is proof they have made things even worse with this search.
 
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