National Signing Day

[Bernardo de la Paz]

Guys do gain good weight sometimes. It would be nice to sign a bunch of Floyds and not have to count on it, but it's worked for us before.

Steven Harris came in at 220 and Joe Cohen came in at 240 (Joe even played running back in high school). Those guys ended up playing at DT on that 06 championship defense which was one of our best ever. Both of them played DT in the NFL.

Here's a nice article about Harris stepping up to replace Marcus Thomas:

https://www.alligator.org/app/pt2/specials/glendale/championship/070107thomas.html

 

[LongTooth]

You keep talking about how we can use Ce Ce in 2018. If he's as good as we think he is, there's a good chance he's gone after 2017.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Thompson was up to 239lbs during his presser?

 

[LagoonGator68]

And Mac says he looks 210 (cut).

 

[Ancient Reptile]

Fowler didn't gain 40 lbs. Infact, there was a point where he had to lose weight.

Fowler did gain 40. Was listed as 230 when committed to fsu and reported at 270. So, 270-230 is 40. And yes, he did have to lose weight. Coach said he was too heavy to play shortly after he reported, but had him playing afew days later. I believe he lost like 5 LBs which allowed the coach to save face.Look it up.

 

[Alagator]

 

[Ancient Reptile]

Gentlemen, with all due respect, no matter how much you try to spin yourself into painful contortions for no apparent reason other than to spin, Polite is not and will never be a DT. It's as simple as that. He will probably play at 265-270, perfect for a DE. Even if he ate every vat of peanut butter in Gainesville, he's too tall for DT. He isn't a DT. You want squat guys to get under the pads of the G and C.

We signed no DTs. Mac admits it. Said it is a problem. I'm hoping he fixes it soon.

Stop spinning.

Nice going, law. When you lose the argument on weight, change the argument to one on height. Half the posters don't even notice what you do.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

AR, there is no losing an argument on height. The laws of physics and leverage don't change. Saying John Henderson, which everyone always does is exactly because there is only one (or they are extraordinarily rare). It's like saying short guys don't make good QBs and someone mentioning Flutie.

I do just get tired of arguing the obvious with the oblivous. If I keep repeating it, you pumpers biitch about it.

We are in terrible shape due to not signing DTs two damn years in a row. Mac mentions it and doing poorly in Florida in his last interview.

Pump away.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

I don't think you read the posts you argue about. Didn't say that you lost the argument on height. I said when you lost the argument on weight, you switched to arguing on height. Pay attention.

 

[rogdochar]

I don't think you read the posts you argue about. Didn't say that you lost the argument on height. I said when you lost the argument on weight, you switched to arguing on height. Pay attention.

... Law reaching the height of argumentative sleight of hand ?

 

[Ancient Reptile]

... Law reaching the height of argumentative sleight of hand ?

Exactly, but the weight of his argument is not substantial.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

A real damn DT or NT, like Omar Hunter. (I know people here don't recognize that Omar was a run stopping, guard owning beast)

Omar Hunter???!! Omar Hunter didn't own anything except possibly the title of biggest recruiting bust of the Meyer era. Omar was a guy who was a 5th year senior who was productive his last year, nothing more, which is the only reason he won't go down as a bust. Had he been the run stopping, guard owning beast you claim, he would have been more than an undrafted free agent after his senior year. As it stands, he wasn't.

 

[alcoholica]

Omar Hunter???!! Omar Hunter didn't own anything except possibly the title of biggest recruiting bust of the Meyer era. Omar was a guy who was a 5th year senior who was productive his last year, nothing more, which is the only reason he won't go down as a bust. Had he been the run stopping, guard owning beast you claim, he would have been more than an undrafted free agent after his senior year. As it stands, he wasn't.

Not the biggest bust. He contributed, but wasn't spectacular. I think Law is right that his biggest contribution was eating up space.

How about these 5* guys...James Wilson, Matt Patchan, Will Hill, and my favorite Carl Moore.

 

[Homer J]

I heard Matt Patchan got hurt watching the Super Bowl

 

[WillGetIn]

I heard Matt Patchan got hurt watching the Super Bowl

Actually, it was during pre-game warm ups. Patchan was pulling into his driveway on his scooter when he cut off a kid on a bike who then shot Patchan in the eye with a nerf dart. Patchan then tore his acl when his knee hit the car bumper on the way down. Finally, upon impact, he dislocated his shoulder.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

Not the biggest bust. He contributed, but wasn't spectacular. I think Law is right that his biggest contribution was eating up space.

How about these 5* guys...James Wilson, Matt Patchan, Will Hill, and my favorite Carl Moore.

I didn't say he was a bust, I actually said he wasn't a bust mainly because he stayed 5 years and contributed somewhat in his 5th year. Law said he was a real DT/NT, referred to him as a beast and put him in the same category as Gerard Warren, Mt. Cody and Sharif Floyd. Bottom line is Omar wasn't close to any of those guys or those things. As I said, Omar was a guy who contributed some for one, maybe one and a half years out if his 5 years in the program, nothing more, and then he went undrafted. He wasn't some run stuffing, lineman eating monster worthy of the comparison that was made. For most of his time at UF, he was a fat, out of shape guy with a bad attitude and poor work ethic before finally showing up as a senior.

 

[Fishon]

I didn't say he was a bust, I actually said he wasn't a bust mainly because he stayed 5 years and contributed somewhat in his 5th year. Law said he was a real DT/NT, referred to him as a beast and put him in the same category as Gerard Warren, Mt. Cody and Sharif Floyd. Bottom line is Omar wasn't close to any of those guys or those things. As I said, Omar was a guy who contributed some for one, maybe one and a half years out if his 5 years in the program, nothing more, and then he went undrafted. He wasn't some run stuffing, lineman eating monster worthy of the comparison that was made. For most of his time at UF, he was a fat, out of shape guy with a bad attitude and poor work ethic before finally showing up as a senior.

Agree. Jaye Howard had more of an impact both at UF and the NFL. And I'm pretty sure Howard was a DE coming in who grew to a DT

 

[Alagator]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I found an article stating that Lawing knew about Manuel's intention to flip but told him to:

“just play the game” and to “tell them damn Gators what they want to hear” before flipping

https://collegespun.com/national/fs...dium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football

I'm surprised Lawing's drunk ass could remeber what he told anybody two weeks ago...

 

[Alagator]

In the end I don't think Manuel will be as big of a loss as we originally thought, other than just not having a DT in the class. We needed a couple of DT's really. But Manuel himself, I dont think will be that big of a deal and is likely to be a bust.

Having said that, this is just one more of many, many reasons to hate fsu

 

[alcoholica]

I didn't say he was a bust, I actually said he wasn't a bust mainly because he stayed 5 years and contributed somewhat in his 5th year. Law said he was a real DT/NT, referred to him as a beast and put him in the same category as Gerard Warren, Mt. Cody and Sharif Floyd. Bottom line is Omar wasn't close to any of those guys or those things. As I said, Omar was a guy who contributed some for one, maybe one and a half years out if his 5 years in the program, nothing more, and then he went undrafted. He wasn't some run stuffing, lineman eating monster worthy of the comparison that was made. For most of his time at UF, he was a fat, out of shape guy with a bad attitude and poor work ethic before finally showing up as a senior.

Omar Hunter???!! Omar Hunter didn't own anything except possibly the title of biggest recruiting bust of the Meyer era.