***Official UF vs Gonzaga Basketball Thread***

[LeeForThree]

If we shoot 3-19 from 3...we win this game on a normal day. Just embarrassing display on offense. Things need to change in some way because we can't beat really good teams without a little bit of offense.

 

[gators4224]

White has this team going in the right direction

I agree and i give him and mac the benefit of the doubt it being their second year. White looks like he's a very hard worker that's something I've noticed.

 

[MertzJay26]

Exactly, I don't know why he's calling us out like we're way out of line and can't have an open convo about a loss...

I don't think there's anything to get lol. Hes the pumper of all pumpers. Heck I've been called a pumper on here and even I can see this is blatant pumping

 

[Jbossgator8]

You probably didn't think last years team would or could hit 12 3s in a game but they did against one of the best defensive teams in the nation vs WVU the #9 team in the nation at the time as we won 88-71. We also hit 15 3s in a game last year too...

 

[Jbossgator8]

Pump it baby, pump it hard

 

[LeeForThree]

You probably didn't think last years team would or could hit 12 3s in a game but they did against one of the best defensive teams in the nation vs WVU the #9 team in the nation at the time as we won 88-71. We also hit 15 3s in a game last year too...

We also had DFS who was a 40% 3pt shooter. It's comes down to how the 3pters are taken. Tonight 18 of them were not even contested. They have to make at least 30% of those.

 

[gators4224]

Yea and if this team was awful there would be no point in criticizing, but At least i think this team has real potential, so I think it's ok to discuss the negatives and positives about the team after a win or loss on an open forum. It's a part of being a fan. It's ok I'm a pumper too but I'm also a realist about the actual course of events that take place

 

[t-gator]

I don't know if I would put it on the coaches. At some point you have to make a shot. The second half they just packed it in and there was nothing we could do. You're gonna have hard time beating a top10 team when you go over 5mins without scoring.

 

[rogdochar]

We should never played them ... that's on White.

 

[diehardg8r]

Hill is a TO machine, has been since the day he got here. Drives to the goal and then throws it away trying to dish, over and over again.

 

[PastyStoole]

White needs to try putting Barry in the starting role at point guard. Our point guard situation has been abysmal for far too long now. Hill's the worst PG I've seen on this team since Nabe Palmer.

 

[MidwestChomp]

We also had DFS who was a 40% 3pt shooter. It's comes down to how the 3pters are taken. Tonight 18 of them were not even contested. They have to make at least 30% of those.

And 30% is not even a good %. Imagine if they would shoot 35%, which still is not that great. If they are missing wide open 3s, maybe it's time to think of something else. But, this was a very good Gonzaga team. I hope they learn from games like this, and playing tough will teams will only help their tournament resume.

We have to beat Miami tomorrow.

 

[Gator Fever]

Our starting PGs just arent that good. If we had good play there we could beat anybody on a given night. This team should be a tourney team however with Barry.

 

[KronoGator]

HILL and CHIOZZA just don't have it. NEXT man up

Things are pretty empty behind those 2 at the point.

 

[FireFoley]

Sadly, I fell asleep during the first half and only saw the final score this morning. But reading some of the opinions and looking at the stats, it appears the 3 point line is a big topic. Well I will say what I have said for a zillion years. That 3 point line is fools gold. When a team make a high % of 3's it hides a lot of mistakes and can appear the team is playing better maybe than they truly are. When they miss a large % of 3's , it can often be a convenient excuse. Having not seen this game in total, I can't say if 19 3-pt attempts was a lot or not. Were the shots good shots within the flow of the offense or were they just jacking them up? Could they have gotten the same shot later in the shot clock and thus did not explore a better option early on in the possession. My experience with White is that they take too many "bad" 3's, but not seeing this entire game I can't comment with conviction. I do like that the team appears to have adopted a defensive mindset on that end and I like the determination there. But Egbunu still needs to kick the ball out of the post on offense more b/c he has take too many poor shots early on this season.

 

[NavetG8r]

Sadly, I fell asleep during the first half and only saw the final score this morning. But reading some of the opinions and looking at the stats, it appears the 3 point line is a big topic. Well I will say what I have said for a zillion years. That 3 point line is fools gold. When a team make a high % of 3's it hides a lot of mistakes and can appear the team is playing better maybe than they truly are. When they miss a large % of 3's , it can often be a convenient excuse. Having not seen this game in total, I can't say if 19 3-pt attempts was a lot or not. Were the shots good shots within the flow of the offense or were they just jacking them up? Could they have gotten the same shot later in the shot clock and thus did not explore a better option early on in the possession. My experience with White is that they take too many "bad" 3's, but not seeing this entire game I can't comment with conviction. I do like that the team appears to have adopted a defensive mindset on that end and I like the determination there. But Egbunu still needs to kick the ball out of the post on offense more b/c he has take too many poor shots early on this season.

There were way more "bad" shots taken than good shots. That's this team's MO it seems. Rush things and take bad shots over and over and over again. Oh, and Hill driving to the basket and turning the ball over, over and over and over again... They waste a lot of possessions imo. White needs to tear them some new buttholes about that crap. They played very good defense for the most part. That's what kept them in the game until late. Then Zaga just started hitting all their shots as our guys got worn down and couldn't keep up the pace. I'm no BBall expert, but even I could see our guys were off balance and not in control of their bodies for a huge % of their shots, especially late in the game. But I only watched the 2nd half so the other guys will have to chime in on how poor our shot choices were in the first half.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

Couldn't watch, don't get espnu. Kept up with the action by checking the game thread every ten minutes or so. Thanks to everyone for keeping us up to date.

As far as the team, sounds like the same crap we saw last year. Athletes who aren't basketball players. Doesn't matter if you can play defense and have length. At some point you can either shoot the ball and are a ball player or not. Wasn't a fan of the hire, still not.

Edit - one more thing. The fact that we still have PGs driving into the defense and turning it over again and again tells me all I really need to know about this coaching staff.

 

[LeeForThree]

Sadly, I fell asleep during the first half and only saw the final score this morning. But reading some of the opinions and looking at the stats, it appears the 3 point line is a big topic. Well I will say what I have said for a zillion years. That 3 point line is fools gold. When a team make a high % of 3's it hides a lot of mistakes and can appear the team is playing better maybe than they truly are. When they miss a large % of 3's , it can often be a convenient excuse. Having not seen this game in total, I can't say if 19 3-pt attempts was a lot or not. Were the shots good shots within the flow of the offense or were they just jacking them up? Could they have gotten the same shot later in the shot clock and thus did not explore a better option early on in the possession. My experience with White is that they take too many "bad" 3's, but not seeing this entire game I can't comment with conviction. I do like that the team appears to have adopted a defensive mindset on that end and I like the determination there. But Egbunu still needs to kick the ball out of the post on offense more b/c he has take too many poor shots early on this season.

75-80% of the 3pters were great looks. I am not kidding when I say they didn't even attempt to contest the shots. The amount of 3pters or type of 3pters were not the problem. It was just missing completely unguarded 3pters imo.

 

[rogdochar]

Looks like our shooters have insulted the rims and made them unfriendly rims.
They have no awareness of their body position and no feel for where the rims are relevant to that.
It's actually ugly basketball. It was really severe in this game, but it is the Gator standard in general
game after game. Can in-close shooting touch be taught - I think it is a trained mindset ... a thinking in
practice shooting ?

The only way to avoid our season-long agony will be by watching them get "trained" out of this
really clumsy touch - bull in china shop shooting. Start with 6'11" Egbunu's short hook.

 

[Jbossgator8]

Kasey Hill last year the last 9 GAMES averaged 13 points, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 2 turnovers a game. Yall probably don't remember that though....