Titans trade away first pick in the draft to the Rams

[GatorJB]

The Rams are the biggest losers of the draft 2 weeks before it happens. That's quite an accomplishment.

 

[GatorJ]

Who said anything about receivers? Marketing a new QB to a new fanbase is a good business move. It's a bad football move, because the team as a whole has a number of holes.

I meant QB.

 

[rogdochar]

What's a Titian?

.... and if you have that Titian and you add other-ones = do you have mortitians ?

 

[TheDouglas78]

I meant QB.

Which I agree, there isn't a guy who would have been in the first round the last few years.

 

[chferg]

hahahaha **** the lambs...hope they fail miserably and hope Kronke chokes on another dick

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Two firsts, two seconds, and two thirds?

Rams are freaking morons. You can't lose that kinda depth and have a chance in this league. Wow, just freaking wow.

It's not like there's a Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck either

I tend to agree that the Titan's won the trade. Still the pick value chart says:

What the Rams got:

Pick 1 value 3000 points
Pick 113 value 68 points
Pick 177 value 20.6 points

So the value the Rams receive is 3088.6 points


What the Titans got:

Pick 15 value 1050
Pick 43 value 470
Pick 45 value 450
Pick 76 value 210

So the value the Titans received this draft is 2180

They also so get the Rams 2017 1st and 3rd round picks. The undiscounted value of those two picks range from 3265 to 706 depending whether or not the Rams are the worst team in the NFL next year or the best. The midpoint is 1190. So the Titans win as long as the Rams are not too good next year and the Titans do not have too big a discount factor for picks a year in the future.

So numerically it is a pretty even trade and I can see why the Rams did it. But like many here, I am not sure I see a guy out there who can turn a 7-9 team into a playoff team and make this trade pay off for the Rams. Time will tell.

Here is link to one of many sites with the draft pick value chart:

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

 

[TheDouglas78]

I tend to agree that the Titan's won the trade. Still the pick value chart says:

What the Rams got:

Pick 1 value 3000 points
Pick 113 value 68 points
Pick 177 value 20.6 points

So the value the Rams receive is 3088.6 points


What the Titans got:

Pick 15 value 1050
Pick 43 value 470
Pick 45 value 450
Pick 76 value 210

So the value the Titans received this draft is 2180

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

Does this chart take into account the change to the rookie pay scale a few years ago? Just wondering.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Does this chart take into account the change to the rookie pay scale a few years ago? Just wondering.

Good question and I do not really know. I know that 3000 for the first overall pick has not changed. I know that this chart is the same as one at many sites.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Good question and I do not really know. I know that 3000 for the first overall pick has not changed. I know that this chart is the same as one at many sites.

There might not have been a change in the chart, just was wondering.

 

[rogdochar]

I tend to agree that the Titan's won the trade. Still the pick value chart says:

What the Rams got:

Pick 1 value 3000 points
Pick 113 value 68 points
Pick 177 value 20.6 points

So the value the Rams receive is 3088.6 points


What the Titans got:

Pick 15 value 1050
Pick 43 value 470
Pick 45 value 450
Pick 76 value 210

So the value the Titans received this draft is 2180

They also so get the Rams 2017 1st and 3rd round picks. The undiscounted value of those two picks range from 3265 to 706 depending whether or not the Rams are the worst team in the NFL next year or the best. The midpoint is 1190. So the Titans win as long as the Rams are not too good next year and the Titans do not have too big a discount factor for picks a year in the future.

So numerically it is a pretty even trade and I can see why the Rams did it. But like many here, I am not sure I see a guy out there who can turn a 7-9 team into a playoff team and make this trade pay off for the Rams. Time will tell.

Here is link to one of many sites with the draft pick value chart:

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

I'll wait 'til the movie comes out.......... Instiresting post, insti.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

There might not have been a change in the chart, just was wondering.

I do agree with the implication of your question that a draft pick with a salary scale has more value than one without. Still this is a relative value chart so I guess maybe the relative values have not changed due to the rookie salary scale.

 

[GatorJ]

I'll wait 'til the movie comes out.......... Instiresting post, insti.

 

[heavychevy]

Titans must be high on Del rio

 

[alcoholica]

I tend to agree that the Titan's won the trade. Still the pick value chart says:

What the Rams got:

Pick 1 value 3000 points
Pick 113 value 68 points
Pick 177 value 20.6 points

So the value the Rams receive is 3088.6 points


What the Titans got:

Pick 15 value 1050
Pick 43 value 470
Pick 45 value 450
Pick 76 value 210

So the value the Titans received this draft is 2180

They also so get the Rams 2017 1st and 3rd round picks. The undiscounted value of those two picks range from 3265 to 706 depending whether or not the Rams are the worst team in the NFL next year or the best. The midpoint is 1190. So the Titans win as long as the Rams are not too good next year and the Titans do not have too big a discount factor for picks a year in the future.

So numerically it is a pretty even trade and I can see why the Rams did it. But like many here, I am not sure I see a guy out there who can turn a 7-9 team into a playoff team and make this trade pay off for the Rams. Time will tell.

Here is link to one of many sites with the draft pick value chart:

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

Maybe not a bad trade by the numbers, but that really just depends on how much you plan to build thru the draft or FA.

I think why everyone thinks the trade is bad is because you're trading to take someone who grades outside the top 10. The same chart says the #10 pick is worth less than 1700 pts than the 1st. So when you factor that in, it's a really bad pick.

 

[maheo30]

Jeff Fisher made himself look like an even bigger moron than he already is. He states they don't know what they are going to do with the pick?

 

[TheDouglas78]

Jeff Fisher made himself look like an even bigger moron than he already is. He states they don't know what they are going to do with the pick?

If you make that trade without a plan, the whole football staff GM all the way down deserves to be fired. Jeff Fisher has to do something this year, he is the first coach since Mike Shula and the Bengals to survive 4 losing seasons in a row.

 

[t-gator]

Jeff Fisher made himself look like an even bigger moron than he already is. He states they don't know what they are going to do with the pick?

How is Jeff Fisher still employed? He made a superbowl appearance a long time ago and has put abunch of bad teams outthere since then.

 

[GatorJB]

Maybe not a bad trade by the numbers, but that really just depends on how much you plan to build thru the draft or FA.

I think why everyone thinks the trade is bad is because you're trading to take someone who grades outside the top 10. The same chart says the #10 pick is worth less than 1700 pts than the 1st. So when you factor that in, it's a really bad pick.

Yep. A few months ago, none of these QB's were considered to be first round talent, but because some teams are desperate for a QB, these guys are going to be drafted much higher than they should be. Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert going in the first round is a good example of this.

It's bad enough for a team to want to draft a QB number 1 in this draft, but to sell the farm to get that pick is just plain stupid.