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Just got home from the game. Can't sleep so I'll post some observations and comments from what was a very disappointing game, to say the least. Here goes:
*One of the biggest factors of the game was field position, won by the Noles, as we seemed to start at the 25 or behind it on every possession. We were still able to drive into their red zone on I think four possessions (five if you count the next to last one) and scored ZERO points. We were not vey clean offensively most of the night, especially with chances to score.
*I especially hate that the Noles were able to score a couple of late TDs and Cook wound up with over 150 rushing when he was nulled in the first half. I will not say our D quit in the latter stages, but I do think they mentally let down and I can't help but believe that their trust in the O (paramount with regard to the QB play most likely) reached a critical mass tonight. I don't buy what Mick and the McGriffs were selling in their post game analysis about them being gassed, as they played only 57 snaps. If I'm correct, this certainly doesn't bode well for next week without some voodoo turn around.
*I certainly don't profess to be a prophet, but I remarked to my friend after their initial FG to go up 3-0 that this very well could be an insurmountable lead! I believed it and unfortunately it wound up being true.
*Sorry Ox, but Mac said in his post game comments that there would be no change at QB next week. He realizes the poor play but says there are other guys not getting the job done and all combined hurts the consistency of execution, especially in the red zone. Treon is not a very good QB right now and it is debatable if he ever will be (I'm leaning toward "no"); but if I read Mac correctly, he knows that the guy or guys behind him are worse. I'm not with the change for the sake of change when it involves guys I haven't seen. I'm deferring to Mac's judgement on this even if we lose next week. I know in my head and heart that we have already exceeded reasonable expectations with a relatively weak offensive roster. Doesn't mean we can't improve on our record, but sometimes your perspective has to be ruled by reality and not a sense of frustration and/or hubris. Best solution in my mind is a February deal where we get a couple of QBs, hopefully one that can compete right out of HS or JC.
*Looked like the OL played a better game last night. They still had some gaffs, but opened enough holes for KT to have a good night rushing (136 I believe and with his dad in attendance). Pass pro was ok.
*Receivers weren't great last night. Seems we had some busts on routes. The QB didn't help, however. I don't recall ever seeing as many one yard receptions. He missed some open receivers and threw at the feet on a couple of rolls. Back to the receivers, Mac commented on Robinson's suspension and said that his return would be up to his teammates, so I'm not sure if there is more than just a missed curfew as reported in another thread. Kid may have mailed it in already.
*Secondary play was inconsistent in my opinion. Made McGuire look better than he was. We missed a couple of pick opportunities that would have surely helped somehow. I got to thinking after the game that McGuire would be a future CFB trivia answer, the question being "who was the best QB in the 2015 UF/FSU game played at BHG? Not exactly up there with the upper eschelon otherwise. Quincy Wilson looked lost on a couple of coverages. Not a DB issue, but Morrison got isolated on a receiver and was burned. This has happened before in an earlier game and is a schematic issue that just can't happen. McGuire and the Noles coaches saw this and took advantage. This on Collins.
*Hardin is done and really has been for the bulk of this season. If he does anything else this year it only needs to be KOs. Mac alluded to such saying that we would get a new and better kicker, presumably for next season, so it sounds like his patience with Hardin is done. Time for the dentist finally?
I'm usually as positive and upbeat as a Gator fan comes, but barring a miraculous clean up in practice next week and a favorable bowl pairing and greater execution, we may have won our last game of the season last week. Should it play out like that (and I hope it doesn't), I think it is still important to maintain perspective on what has been accomplished this season as well as what has been exposed as areas that need attention in recruiting and off season practice. I'll finish with a few more thoughts on Treon. One stat that really hurt were about half a dozen passes that were knocked down last night. Though he looks to be trying to stay with the pocket, his height hurts. Personally, I thought he had several,opportunities to take off and run but didn't and I'd like to see him coached up,to do so in these last two games. Not being able to check out of plays or reroute receivers pre snap is a killer. There were several opportunities where a slant from the slots would have been an easy throw and catch if a route change could have been called. Not a shocker, but the kid just can't seem to process all the things he needs to progress beyond where he is currently stuck and likely never wil consistently. But he's sort of the best of the worst this year and looks like we'll ride it out with him. We'll have to see how it plays out. In the meantime, Go Gators and compete well or better in the remaining games.
*One of the biggest factors of the game was field position, won by the Noles, as we seemed to start at the 25 or behind it on every possession. We were still able to drive into their red zone on I think four possessions (five if you count the next to last one) and scored ZERO points. We were not vey clean offensively most of the night, especially with chances to score.
*I especially hate that the Noles were able to score a couple of late TDs and Cook wound up with over 150 rushing when he was nulled in the first half. I will not say our D quit in the latter stages, but I do think they mentally let down and I can't help but believe that their trust in the O (paramount with regard to the QB play most likely) reached a critical mass tonight. I don't buy what Mick and the McGriffs were selling in their post game analysis about them being gassed, as they played only 57 snaps. If I'm correct, this certainly doesn't bode well for next week without some voodoo turn around.
*I certainly don't profess to be a prophet, but I remarked to my friend after their initial FG to go up 3-0 that this very well could be an insurmountable lead! I believed it and unfortunately it wound up being true.
*Sorry Ox, but Mac said in his post game comments that there would be no change at QB next week. He realizes the poor play but says there are other guys not getting the job done and all combined hurts the consistency of execution, especially in the red zone. Treon is not a very good QB right now and it is debatable if he ever will be (I'm leaning toward "no"); but if I read Mac correctly, he knows that the guy or guys behind him are worse. I'm not with the change for the sake of change when it involves guys I haven't seen. I'm deferring to Mac's judgement on this even if we lose next week. I know in my head and heart that we have already exceeded reasonable expectations with a relatively weak offensive roster. Doesn't mean we can't improve on our record, but sometimes your perspective has to be ruled by reality and not a sense of frustration and/or hubris. Best solution in my mind is a February deal where we get a couple of QBs, hopefully one that can compete right out of HS or JC.
*Looked like the OL played a better game last night. They still had some gaffs, but opened enough holes for KT to have a good night rushing (136 I believe and with his dad in attendance). Pass pro was ok.
*Receivers weren't great last night. Seems we had some busts on routes. The QB didn't help, however. I don't recall ever seeing as many one yard receptions. He missed some open receivers and threw at the feet on a couple of rolls. Back to the receivers, Mac commented on Robinson's suspension and said that his return would be up to his teammates, so I'm not sure if there is more than just a missed curfew as reported in another thread. Kid may have mailed it in already.
*Secondary play was inconsistent in my opinion. Made McGuire look better than he was. We missed a couple of pick opportunities that would have surely helped somehow. I got to thinking after the game that McGuire would be a future CFB trivia answer, the question being "who was the best QB in the 2015 UF/FSU game played at BHG? Not exactly up there with the upper eschelon otherwise. Quincy Wilson looked lost on a couple of coverages. Not a DB issue, but Morrison got isolated on a receiver and was burned. This has happened before in an earlier game and is a schematic issue that just can't happen. McGuire and the Noles coaches saw this and took advantage. This on Collins.
*Hardin is done and really has been for the bulk of this season. If he does anything else this year it only needs to be KOs. Mac alluded to such saying that we would get a new and better kicker, presumably for next season, so it sounds like his patience with Hardin is done. Time for the dentist finally?
I'm usually as positive and upbeat as a Gator fan comes, but barring a miraculous clean up in practice next week and a favorable bowl pairing and greater execution, we may have won our last game of the season last week. Should it play out like that (and I hope it doesn't), I think it is still important to maintain perspective on what has been accomplished this season as well as what has been exposed as areas that need attention in recruiting and off season practice. I'll finish with a few more thoughts on Treon. One stat that really hurt were about half a dozen passes that were knocked down last night. Though he looks to be trying to stay with the pocket, his height hurts. Personally, I thought he had several,opportunities to take off and run but didn't and I'd like to see him coached up,to do so in these last two games. Not being able to check out of plays or reroute receivers pre snap is a killer. There were several opportunities where a slant from the slots would have been an easy throw and catch if a route change could have been called. Not a shocker, but the kid just can't seem to process all the things he needs to progress beyond where he is currently stuck and likely never wil consistently. But he's sort of the best of the worst this year and looks like we'll ride it out with him. We'll have to see how it plays out. In the meantime, Go Gators and compete well or better in the remaining games.
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