Lack of Talent?

[Egor's Assistant]

Oh for Fk sake. You guys were all over Muschamps dick and excited about Mac butters when he was beating Ugay and going to back to back SECCG. As usual some like and some don't. Lets look at the success of the coaches that were preferred to what we got?

Chip Kelly 7-0 right now. Lane Kiffy 7-0, top ten ranking. Riley 6-1 at USC.

 

[soflagator]

Oh for Fk sake. You guys were all over Muschamps dick and excited about Mac butters when he was beating Ugay and going to back to back SECCG. As usual some like and some don't. Lets look at the success of the coaches that were preferred to what we got?

I was open to Muschamp but openly called out his opening presser, questioned his radical plan and officially said he was toast after Jax 2011.

I was patient with Mac to an extent because we beat uga twice, and at least made Atlanta. I bailed on him the night of the fsu game in 2016.

I was not happy with Mullen but did feel he’d do some good, which he did. I also said on this very board the night of the Lsu game in 2020 that he was done.

So you actually have seen enough from me to know I can spot problems well in advance when it comes to coaches. I think Napier has done a lot of good. He also has made some questionable moves, and has been asked about something controversial in 5 of 7 games. I don’t need to see that stat go to 15 of 21 to ask questions. If he wants to correct it, I think he actually has the ability to do so. Whether he does or not is a matter of how much he really wants to win(hates to lose) or if he’s just satisfied with cashing big checks. We’ll see.

 

[Spurdog98]

Chip Kelly 7-0 right now. Lane Kiffy 7-0, top ten ranking. Riley 6-1 at USC.

None of those guys were interested and Kiffy will have Ole Miss on probation in 2 years. Cristabol and Frost were high on the list to. How is that working out.

 

[Spurdog98]

Gundy had NO interest. And why would any of them come to this cauldron? Ole Miss was an easy selection, they aren't going to fire you year one for going .500. But in fairness, Kiffen would have been worth the risk. He's an Urban Meyer hire. He can bring early success but it might cost you later

 

[Egor's Assistant]

None of those guys were interested and Kiffy will have Ole Miss on probation in 2 years. Cristabol and Frost were high on the list to. How is that working out.

Now that you can buy players with NIL, there is no more probation to worry about.

 

[Egor's Assistant]

And don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to change coaches right now. We hired Sling Blade, we gots to give him a chance to fix the broken mower that no one else seems to be able to repair.

 

[soflagator]

Gundy had NO interest. And why would any of them come to this cauldron? Ole Miss was an easy selection, they aren't going to fire you year one for going .500. But in fairness, Kiffen would have been worth the risk. He's an Urban Meyer hire. He can bring early success but it might cost you later

I think that’s where these discussions go off the rails. No one is expecting perfection from Napier. Everyone recognizes there are holes in certain parts of this team. Things like time mismanagement and being called out by fans afterward doesn’t make Florida fans unique. National writers and people on Twitter have also questioned these things. We’re not really that unreasonable. Just don’t be stupid. Don’t insist on changing a culture(WM) that has worked for years and is conducive to our recruiting base. Don’t half effort recruiting(JM, DM) because you arrogantly think you can outscheme everyone. Don’t bring in a questionable DC(also DM) that you know the fan base despises. Don’t kill 2 min of time to finish the half when in a shootout with a team you haven’t stopped once and who’ll receive to start Q3 already up a TD.

We make it seem like these things are unreasonable and somehow a poor reflection on the fans. They’re not. Just don’t be an idiot. It’s really not that hard.

 

[Daryl]

I wanted Chip Kelly yrs ago, I doubt he would’ve won big but it would’ve been entertaining. His lack of recruiting effort would’ve worn thin pretty quickly

 

[gingerlover]

I was open to Muschamp but openly called out his opening presser, questioned his radical plan and officially said he was toast after Jax 2011.

I was patient with Mac to an extent because we beat uga twice, and at least made Atlanta. I bailed on him the night of the fsu game in 2016.

I was not happy with Mullen but did feel he’d do some good, which he did. I also said on this very board the night of the Lsu game in 2020 that he was done.

So you actually have seen enough from me to know I can spot problems well in advance when it comes to coaches. I think Napier has done a lot of good. He also has made some questionable moves, and has been asked about something controversial in 5 of 7 games. I don’t need to see that stat go to 15 of 21 to ask questions. If he wants to correct it, I think he actually has the ability to do so. Whether he does or not is a matter of how much he really wants to win(hates to lose) or if he’s just satisfied with cashing big checks. We’ll see.

I feel Muschamp actually cared, wanted to succeed, but just wasn't cut out to be a functional HC. At the time he was on everyone's list and was supposed to be what Bowlcut has become. He just couldn't help himself and for every great thing he did on D he made just as an awful decision with the O.

Butters was never going to work, despite the early success. He just wasn't a good fit at all and I am still shocked he was our only choice.

Mullen was also an awful hire. The book was out on him already and we did it anyway. Paying for it now.

My problem with Billy is that many of the people who for years said we couldn't hire a coordinator because this isn't a learn on the job position are now perfectly fine with him essentially learning basic fundamentals, like clock managment on the job. My hope for this hire was a stock the cupboard type of coach and hopefully he can do that at least since he was our only call.

 

[t-gator]

See this @soflagator. I'm not the only one , biotch

 

[Concrete Helmet]

He was a stud against Southwestern Alcorn State and padded his stats....

 

[soflagator]

See this @soflagator. I'm not the only one , biotch

Stick with “betch”. The other doesn’t suit you.

 

[stephenPE]

 

[Spurdog98]

Now that you can buy players with NIL, there is no more probation to worry about.

Really? Ask Hugh and Petrino if that would have saved them?

 

[Spurdog98]

I think that’s where these discussions go off the rails. No one is expecting perfection from Napier. Everyone recognizes there are holes in certain parts of this team. Things like time mismanagement and being called out by fans afterward doesn’t make Florida fans unique. National writers and people on Twitter have also questioned these things. We’re not really that unreasonable. Just don’t be stupid. Don’t insist on changing a culture(WM) that has worked for years and is conducive to our recruiting base. Don’t half effort recruiting(JM, DM) because you arrogantly think you can outscheme everyone. Don’t bring in a questionable DC(also DM) that you know the fan base despises. Don’t kill 2 min of time to finish the half when in a shootout with a team you haven’t stopped once and who’ll receive to start Q3 already up a TD.

We make it seem like these things are unreasonable and somehow a poor reflection on the fans. They’re not. Just don’t be an idiot. It’s really not that hard.

People on Twitter? Questionable DC? Well what about Youtube, can we go to that and look at the review GNFP gave Toney's defense? I'm not sure what you talking about with the other stuff, change the culture, half ass recruiting and outscheming everyone else. Clock management? Okay but it's quite possible he felt the need to run out the clock in order not to give it back to the offense and give up yet more points. I don't know.

 

[Spurdog98]

I was open to Muschamp but openly called out his opening presser, questioned his radical plan and officially said he was toast after Jax 2011.

I was patient with Mac to an extent because we beat uga twice, and at least made Atlanta. I bailed on him the night of the fsu game in 2016.

I was not happy with Mullen but did feel he’d do some good, which he did. I also said on this very board the night of the Lsu game in 2020 that he was done.

So you actually have seen enough from me to know I can spot problems well in advance when it comes to coaches. I think Napier has done a lot of good. He also has made some questionable moves, and has been asked about something controversial in 5 of 7 games. I don’t need to see that stat go to 15 of 21 to ask questions. If he wants to correct it, I think he actually has the ability to do so. Whether he does or not is a matter of how much he really wants to win(hates to lose) or if he’s just satisfied with cashing big checks. We’ll see.

Did you notice that all of those coaching predictions didn't come after the 7th game? Give the dude a bit more time

 

[t-gator]

I think that’s where these discussions go off the rails. No one is expecting perfection from Napier. Everyone recognizes there are holes in certain parts of this team. Things like time mismanagement and being called out by fans afterward doesn’t make Florida fans unique. National writers and people on Twitter have also questioned these things. We’re not really that unreasonable. Just don’t be stupid. Don’t insist on changing a culture(WM) that has worked for years and is conducive to our recruiting base. Don’t half effort recruiting(JM, DM) because you arrogantly think you can outscheme everyone. Don’t bring in a questionable DC(also DM) that you know the fan base despises. Don’t kill 2 min of time to finish the half when in a shootout with a team you haven’t stopped once and who’ll receive to start Q3 already up a TD.

We make it seem like these things are unreasonable and somehow a poor reflection on the fans. They’re not. Just don’t be an idiot. It’s really not that hard.

Preach!!!

 

[williston_gator]

@Brett_McMurphy: Record in last 14 SEC games:

Vanderbilt 0-14
Florida 3-11
Missouri 4-10
South Carolina 4-10
Auburn 5-9
Arkansas 5-9