Lack of Talent?

[Concrete Helmet]

I also don’t like a lot of the play calling. RP or Hendo going in motion every play is annoying. As I’ve said, this is not one issue.

A couple things I think we can all agree on is one, we lack talent at every position group besides offensive line to compete week in and week out with even the best 3 or 4 teams in this conference. Two, we have not seen the best coaching either situational or scheme wise to put even more talented players over the top to championship level and I don't think that changes until 2024-2025 at best.

 

[G8trwood]

On the TD ball, they had a screen set up, but AR never looked that way. Hopefully just a distraction. ;)

Just said on SEC network that GA had 3 sacks, 10 qb hits and 8 tackles for loss

 

[78]

On the TD ball, they had a screen set up, but AR never looked that way. Hopefully just a distraction. ;)

Just said on SEC network that GA had 3 sacks, 10 qb hits and 8 tackles for loss

That's as good of a defense as I've seen in awhile. They were determined to not let him roll out right without a defender right in his face. And they have the guys who make the difficult tackle one on one.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

I actually think that were AR actually accurate the offense would look quite a bit different.

It cost us at least 2-3 1st downs per game which is about as many as his misses on the run read where he has 10-15 yards of open field ahead of him and hands the ball off instead. I'm not trying to be too hard on him because I think he has alot of ability and some talent.....just can't make those 2 connect often enough.....ala Driskel/Franks

 

[G8trwood]

That's as good of a defense as I've seen in awhile. They were determined to not let him roll out right without a defender right in his face. And they have the guys who make the difficult tackle one on one.

That is why all the fake turn your back play action was maddening. No team respects it and it costs precious time. Spread them out for quick plays. The clock was ticking.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

And they have the guys who make the difficult tackle one on one.

Other than size, strength, talent, depth and speed this is the biggest difference between the 2 defenses....
They consistently make the tackle at first point of contact.....we on the other hand almost never do allowing another 5-10 or more yards and another 1st down.

 

[78]

That is why all the fake turn your back play action was maddening. No team respects it and it costs precious time. Spread them out for quick plays. The clock was ticking.

I would agree with that. They certainly weren't buying.

 

[tharber]

OK i apologize for the idiot comment but it was the beer. Our offense is not horrible. Our def. is the problem right now, When you play a team like UGA with NFL talent all over the field you will look bad. I still havent figured out why a huge TE from Calif. goes all the way to Athens bmfckkk gorgia to play football unless they gave him the bank. But aside that their talent makes us look almost HSish. Its fcknnn insane. So give BN two more years to get us close in talent and we compete. AR is talented and mans up after the game and faces the media. I have not give up on him yet. I just want to see how he plays with better players (see TEs and WRs) btw I played 3 yrs of big boy HS football, too. And started. Would have been four but I was worn out my Jr year.

No worries. I its an emotional game for a reason. I played a little longer than HS, just verbalizing what I see from my perspective. I am by no means dumping on AR for the sake of dumping on him. If he's hurt, let him heal. If he doesn't have a grasp of the play book, let him figure it out from the bench. Sometimes sitting a player can give him a new perspective. I think Kitna has a rocket arm and we will see if it's really a lack of talent (which I know we are down) but I think the receivers can do more than they've been doing which will open up the run game and give us a better time of possession which can only help our defense. There are other SEC QB's that are far worse and have far worse receivers but they are throwing the ball around and making things happen. I put blame on BN and staff but have confidence in them (maybe not Toney) but they have to coach the players they have. You didn't hear HBC complaining about lack of talent when it took over. He went 9-2 with a sub par roster and willed them to perform.

 

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Other than size, strength, talent, depth and speed this is the biggest difference between the 2 defenses....
They consistently make the tackle at first point of contact.....we on the other hand almost never do allowing another 5-10 or more yards and another 1st down.

The coaching regimes change but the tackling remains abysmal. Makes you wonder.

 

[gatormandan]

Billy needs to hire SOS to coach the QBs.

 

[tharber]

AR would be better suited to a pistol type based offense. All these shifts and movement formations don't really fool any team in the SEC. He's bailing out of plays because he lacks confidence and those plays are designed to set up the next play, then the next, etc. If our OL is really as good as they say, piston would be an easy step towards developing AR. I'm not saying use it exclusively but throw it in and see how he does.

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

Some call it a Kaiser dumpster fire. I call it a Sling dumpster fire.

 

[Gatorraid81]

I actually think that were AR actually accurate the offense would look quite a bit different.

Well duh

 

[URGatorBait]

Well duh

What I mean is, the play calls may be different.. perhaps not though, but his accuracy is a problem and kills drives

 

[Zambo]

While too much can be made from the 'lack of talent,' I'll just say that it was pretty darn obvious that their guys looked like supersonic giants compared to our guys out there. Watching us try to tackle those gigantic tight ends was depressing. That Washington dude looked like Tebow going against Pop Warner.

 

[Ironhead]

It's obvious to me that winning in College Football requires an efficient dynamic offense.
Talent? Maybe at some point but, I see Ol Miss, Miss State, Tennessee and others across the country, with obvious talent deficiencies, scoring points, and winning.
Yeah, you need top tier talent to beat the big boys. We don't have that.
The only "Big boy" we've played so far was Georgia and we were embarrassed.

Apparently though, You don't need top tier, "25 5 star" talent, to go 10-2.
You just need a great offense.

Point is, With our current staff and our current players there is no reason whatsoever we should have lost to Kentucky and maybe LSU and Tennessee.
It's coaching.

I went to Ox's re-education camp.
I was not totally against the Napier hire, not totally enamored either, and I warmed quickly to the staff and the new hires and building the program, the analysts, and upgrading the facilities etc....I also think he's re building our relationships with the High Schools across the country and especially in Florida.

To me, this whole thing is eerily similar to Muschamp., except, with no defense.
"Napier needs an offensive coordinator!"
My God, Muschamp heard that so much he hired Charlie Weiss and Roper.

“I probably made a mistake at Florida trying to change schematically from what they had done before,” Muschamp actually told Gridiron Now (for real, no joking this time). “As a result, we ended up not being very good at anything. These days you just don’t have time to make a lot of changes. You have to adapt to what your kids can do.”


Muschamp's correct when he says Florida wasn't good at anything on offense. In his four seasons with the Gators, Muschamp's offenses managed to score 25.3 points per game. It was even worse in SEC-play, as the Gators could muster only 22.8 points per game.

Florida never managed to finish in even the top half of the SEC in points per game under Muschamp.

Napier needs to make sure year two, doesn't even resemble this year or we are right back where we were 10 years ago.
Very troubling.

 

[Gatorraid81]

What I mean is, the play calls may be different.. perhaps not though, but his accuracy is a problem and kills drives

I’d like to know just how many times he’s overthrown a wide open receiver this year, got be be at least 30 times by now.

 

[Gatorraid81]

While too much can be made from the 'lack of talent,' I'll just say that it was pretty darn obvious that their guys looked like supersonic giants compared to our guys out there. Watching us try to tackle those gigantic tight ends was depressing. That Washington dude looked like Tebow going against Pop Warner.

Seems like ever year, we see players post on social media how they’re getting stronger and the best shape of their lives. Then when we line it up against UGAy or some other titan, they get bullied all around the field.

 

[Zambo]

Seems like ever year, we see players post on social media how they’re getting stronger and the best shape of their lives. Then when we line it up against UGAy or some other titan, they get bullied all around the field.

You and I could both go out and get stronger and get in the best shape of our lives, but its the starting point that matters. The other teams are working out and practicing too.

 

[Detroitgator]

On the TD ball, they had a screen set up, but AR never looked that way. Hopefully just a distraction. ;)

Just said on SEC network that GA had 3 sacks, 10 qb hits and 8 tackles for loss

Did SEC Network mention that Georgia's defenders do this really weird thing when they dive for a tackle... they actually wrap their arms tightly around the guy they are diving at and miraculously stop the player they are tackling right there in that spot instead of the guy bouncing off or over him for anywhere between another 2 and 50 yards? It's the strangest thing I've ever seen!

On a serious note, talent gaps aside, I really hoped that this year, in addition to just better discipline overall (which has improved greatly in terms of idiotic, especially procedural penalties), we'd be much, much better at something as fundamental as tackling.