MUST READ: Part 1: Mullen's destructive final years; Part 2: Billy Napier's rebuild

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Reading these articles a couple of years after the fact is so damn depressing. I remember reading one about Butters that was just as horrifying as this one in a few different ways. Before that, the Chimp melted down in his own way.

My point is, UF managed to hire THREE BLITHERING IDIOTS in a row, it's incredible. What's even more incredible is that Jeremy Foley was not only not run out of town on a rail like he should have been, they've allowed him to hang around and named an entire wing of the new facilities after him. Jesus wept.

What Gator fans have gone through since Tebow left should qualify us for PTSD disability payments from the government. We've been forced to eat crap and told it's ice cream. What a sh!t show.
You probably aren't going to like what I say next to this, which I agree with every word you type above, is that once we watch SwampKings tonight we might understand how the program fell so hard and maybe, while Meyer gets a lot of credit for getting us back to the top, he probably deserves a bit of credit for sinking us to the bottom.
 

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Oh, what could have been. Sickening really.
None of that is shocking and it does help to explain a lot about the behavior and gaslighting on why good players weren't seeing play time.
 

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This makes me wonder how much of that 2020 Trask / Pitts spectacular offense was Brian Johnson and not Mullen. I Would love to get BJ back as an OC.
It was all brian johnson. Mullen is an idiot. Not only does he not play the best players and hire/keep garbage coaches, but his offense consists of running the qb up the middle for 3 yards 100 times a game. He even had Chris leak doing that.

Also I would love to punch Grantham and hev in the face. Not only are they ****ty coaches but they are ****ty people also. Knox was a poor coach also and didn't start the best players.

Us fans were right again.
 

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Damn. I still can't believe Mullen brought that dipshyt Grantham back in 2021 after that abysmal 2020 defensive season. And yep, it was Hevesy who kept Pierce from being a featured back. Now I guess we all know why. Mullen was afraid of these guys. What did they have on him?
He was scared of them, never stood up to them, and they bulldozed him from then on, knowing he’d never be able to hold them to account. I’ll venture another idea that Hevesy was past ready to be done, as he had a son playing HS ball in the NE somewhere. Certainly doesn’t excuse his berating and insulting the players. If that’s all you’ve got in the tool box, he should’ve left him be. Not knowing all that, I foolishly thought we’d get the same output from the OL as we did during Meyers’ time.

Grantham…that SOB didn’t pass the eyeball test to start with and smelled like a Dawg as well. Weird thing for me personally, I felt like I knew what he wanted to do in terms of scheme and building an identity on that side of the ball, but we didn’t have the overall personnel, particularly in coverages and LB play. Nor did we have the right guy to TEACH the scheme and sew it together with technique, consistency, and building solid depth. He coached like the guy selling vacuum cleaners door-to-door and not like owner of the company. Human waste.

I also remember my first thought when Mullen was announced and came off the plane chomping…we coulda done worse! Ultimately, we did. The football world now knows for sure, at our considerable expense, that Mullen topped out as an OC and masqueraded as a head coach. He might not have been able to whip either of Hevesy or Grantham, but that he didn’t try when they were punking his @ss in front of the team tells you all you need to know about him. And Stricklin had to be aware.

This point in Gator football history might be the worst it’s ever been. Damn sure feels like it. I have faith in the process Napier has brought. It is so far night and day. But I’m cautiously faithful.
 
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He was scared of them, never stood up to them, and they bulldozed him from then on, knowing he’d never be able to hold them to account. I’ll venture another idea that Hevesy was past ready to be done, as he had a son playing HS ball in the NE somewhere. Certainly doesn’t excuse his berating and insulting the players. If that’s all you’ve got in the tool box, he should’ve left him be. Not knowing all that, I foolishly thought we’d get the same output from the OL as we did during Meyers’ time.

Grantham…that SOB didn’t pass the eyeball test to start with and smelled like a Dawg as well. Weird thing for me personally, I felt like I knew what he wanted to do in terms of scheme and building an identity on that side of the ball, but we didn’t have the overall personnel, particularly in coverages and LB play. Nor did we have the right guy to TEACH the scheme and see it together with technique, consistency, and building solid depth. He coached like the guy selling vacuum cleaners door-to-door and not like owner of the company. Human waste.
Does seem more like sMullen was afraid of them, that they had stronger personalities. If I am understanding correctly, Mullen saw the best weren't playing, NOT because of behavior or commitment, but failed to correct and the entire program suffered. That really is negligence of a high order.

Re Dullen hiring Grantham, I can only imagine his former bosses snickered and upon reading this article would think "Ha, I couldn't told you that would happen dumbazz".
 

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Slightly off topic, but not really. I was about to mention a bit of this in a reply to Pasty in the chat box, figured I'd go longer (it's what I do) and post here.

Just an update from my "Office of the President insider" regarding Sasse and football/sports after her spending lots of time with him during the school year, and lots of time with "his people" in DC this summer... have NO idea if this will result in his getting more hands on or not, but I suspect it will to some extent at some point (he's more focused on getting his people in place on the academic side right now). Here are some points regarding him vs "typical university President's":
  • His dad was his HS football and wrestling coach in Nebraska at a time when the only two things that mattered in Nebraska were football and wrestling (and not in that order).
  • Ben was the starting QB on the HS football team and also a very good wrestler.
  • His ticket to undergrad at Harvard was wrestling, and he wrestled on Harvard's varsity team.
  • Apparently, Oxford had an American football team and he was the QB there too.
  • He LOVES football, and so do all of his people that he's brought in.
  • For game days, last couple of President's only had game day activities during the game, in the President's box only. Under Fuchs, NO alcohol in the box.
  • For game days now, Sasse is doing a formal pre-game tail gate at the new residence (not the old one/Powell House) with alcohol, alcohol in the box again, and now has a small section in the actual stands because he doesn't want to watch the entire game from a glass air conditioned box. My "insider" will not get to see a single game from the student section her senior year :sadnanner:
The guy was a born and raised competitor/athlete (and still is). While no, I don't see him allowing us to ever recruit "marginal model citizens" again, I don't see this guy liking to lose and staying hands off. He does see the "Gator brand" in its totality, Fuchs did not.
 
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So basically everything the fans thought was going on was 100% true and even worse than we thought

Cool.
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If even half of what the article alludes to is true, then Stricklin should be gone today. This is the shyt you see and hear about if you are in tune with your program. Your Golden Goose is sick. You should fu(king know!
 

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If even half of what the article alludes to is true, then Stricklin should be gone today. This is the shyt you see and hear about if you are in tune with your program. Your Golden Goose is sick. You should fu(king know!
So, I really do not know what an AD's job entails. But I would think that it's still a managerial job which means you inspect what you expect. That could include talking to players privately, attending group meetings with coaches and players, keeping a pulse on recruiting and coach's activities in that so that you know if and who is going to Jax, Tampa, etc. Especially when missing on or worse, not being involved with players from those areas, finding out who is responsible and why we are not there in a meaningful way. It's your f--ing cash cow dufus. Pay attention.
 

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“Gator fans are just spoiled”

“Gator fans ran off a good coach in Mullen”

“Gator fans demand championships or want the coach fired after 3 years”

Waiting for apologies. Gator fans are right yet again.

(Looking at you @stephenPE )
Just what we need., ANother thread to say what a douche Danny was. As if this horse has not been vaporized 100 times over.
beating a dead horse wtf GIF
 

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