Spineless SEC Administration or Fooley Gives LSU Home Game

[-THE DUDE-]

What do you think your brother is for? He's already got the parenting experience, leave the little eating, screaming, sh*tting monster with him for the weekend!

That's exactly why he wouldn't take her...he knows the pitfalls

 

[TLB]

If, perhaps later this year or next, BR gets ravaged by a hurricane.....their AD can dig in his heals and have the storm rescheduled?

 

[Fun N' Stun]

Foley begins every negotiation of any kind on his knees and ends each one bent over.

 

[GatorBart]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but HURRICANE SEASON IS NOT OVER!!!!!! How fitting would it be for a storm to cost lswho a home game this year?? Or better yet, get the UF game back to Gainesville. A hurricane has hit the US as late as Nov. 22!! Would be the ultimate CARMA!

See Post #89 - thank you very much.

 

[alcoholica]

That's the joke. You nailed it.

Nice try, no one believes that

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Foley begins every negotiation of any kind on his knees and ends each one bent over.

I heard after getting dry popped by LSU, he called up Muskskank and gave him an extension.

 

[chferg]

I heard after getting dry popped by LSU, he called up Muskskank and gave him an extension.

In all honesty after seeing this debacle, I now know how Chimp got the extension...Fooley probably even addressed Chimp as "masta" or "Sir"

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

So serious question. What if we refused to play the game in Baton Rouge and the game never got rescheduled, then finished the conference slate 6-1 with UT 6-2? The SEC tells us tough sh*t, you can't go to Atlanta because you didn't play 8 games. What would the meltdown look like then?

 

[MJMGator]

So serious question. What if we refused to play the game in Baton Rouge and the game never got rescheduled, then finished the conference slate 6-1 with UT 6-2? The SEC tells us tough sh*t, you can't go to Atlanta because you didn't play 8 games. What would the meltdown look like then?

I don think think Sankey has the balls to make that decision.

 

[LighthouseGator]

I don think think Sankey has the balls to make that decision.

I don't think he would have had a choice. Thems the rules. This is why LSU had the leverage. If we had played at a neutral site, which would have been an option, we wouldn't have gotten the home game next year.

 

[stephenPE]

The moaning, crying and knee-jerking on this thread is just epic. SAD!!!! First Foley was the strong man who bullied Sankey. Now he's the awful negotiator who got steamrolled by this clown at LSU.

I'll try not to re-litigate the arguments for/against cancellation and/or postponement for the same weekend, but here's my take. The one and only (and eventually impossible as people were shuttered and prepared for the worst from South Miami to the FL-GA border - the entire east coast - which is unprecedented) good scenario was for the game to be played as originally scheduled. Every other alternative scenario was bad for UF, save maybe Nov. 19 in G'Ville, which LSU refused. IMO Foley was right to wait until the last possible minute to hold out for the only good option. If early on he agreed to a sunday/monday game as a contingency, LSU would have made it the de facto number 1 option, which is why they were loud about putting it on the table. Leave aside emergency responders/security/hotel vacancies/gas shortages, etc. because most, if not all, on here have not the first clue of the top level logistics that go into that, from a competitive standpoint, sunday/monday sucks. Smaller crowd, less recruits, if any, kids distracted with family who may have been affected by the storm, schedule thrown off, etc. With the injuries, we needed a fully juiced swamp to win this game. We weren't getting that on sunday/monday, so Foley rightfully refused that option and held out for maintaining the original schedule.

Foley knew the second best option would be Nov. 19th in G'ville, which is why that option came out soon after the cancellation was announced. Unfortunately, LSU held the leverage here: they have no shot in the west and know it, we are contenders in the east, so we need the game to be played more than LSU. If LSU looked like a world-beater, then maybe you re-think playing in LSU, but as others have said they should be a beaten bunch by Nov. 19th and Fournette likely will have packed it in with both eyes on the NFL. If that holds true, we should win that game. If LSU plays its brutal schedule tough, who here believes we would win the game wherever/whenever anyway? Not me.

The recruiting angle from the cancellation is overblown. It's pretty simple: if the product on the field is good and there is a buzz about the program going into the bowl games/offseason as a result, the recruits will follow. If not, they won't. After Ole Miss and before the Grier debacle, UF was popping with serious interest from most top flight recruits. There was a buzz. The way the season played out after Grier sucked all of the wind out of the sails, the potential for that class was destroyed.

Here's what I'm hoping for/expecting? the rest of the way. LDR gets better with every game, stays healthy, young WR's begin stepping up, and by the end of the season the offense looks really really good. Win lose or draw the East, the most important aspect the rest of the way for recruiting purposes is how the O looks, full stop. If there is excitement with the offense, it's a signal that Florida is back, and the recruits will follow. Spurrier made offense the hallmark of the program; without it, UF is just another big state school. I think Mac gets us there, but if not and we are looking at 3 straight middling to good recruiting classes, then Mac's fate as head coach is sealed. Without the horses, you can't win the race, and if you can't win the race well, then all you have is horse-teeth.

a voice of reason in this wilderness of hysteria ............Thank God...........

The moaning, crying and knee-jerking on this thread is just epic. SAD!!!! First Foley was the strong man who bullied Sankey. Now he's the awful negotiator who got steamrolled by this clown at LSU.

That was the funniest part.............

 

[NVGator]

Are we still playing in Baton Rouge on Nov. 19th?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

So serious question. What if we refused to play the game in Baton Rouge and the game never got rescheduled

They would have bumped the SECC back a week, just like they did in 2001.

You fvkking Fooley apologists are hilarious. If he didnt have a history of getting ****punted in every negotiation, it might be different.

We are also not going 6-1. It's much more likely that we don't win another game.

You all must get clobbered in your own negotations also.

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

They would have bumped the SECC back a week, just like they did in 2001.

You fvkking Fooley apologists are hilarious. If he didnt have a history of getting ****punted in every negotiation, it might be different.

We are also not going 6-1. It's much more likely that we don't win another game.

You all must get clobbered in your own negotations also.

While I was all for bumping the SECCG back, the Georgia state high school championships were the next weekend. We can say "well, that's only high school," but the collateral damage would have just kept on getting worse.

In 2001, EVERYONE had their games postponed the week of 9/11, so it was kinda necessary to make them all up.

Nothing to apologize about. The only way you guys won't pitch a complete b*tch fit is if we win this game on November 19. Even then, I'm sure you'll find a reason.

 

[GatorBart]

Are we still playing in Baton Rouge on Nov. 19th?

Unless Hurricane Wilma comes ripping up through the gulf right about then, probably so.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

This is collossially stupid even by fvkktard Fooley's standards.

He should have been fired on the spot in 2013 when e dug his heels in on Chimp.

What a total piece of shyt. That Fool gets out maneuvered by pizza delivery boys I bet.

That useless mother hasn't done anything right for over a decade.

Aw, come on Law. You've got to give Foley some credit. He locked up Sully, arguably the greatest regular season coach in baseball history, with a 30 year guaranteed contract at $1 million+ per year. That's got to count for something, doesn't it?

 

[alcoholica]

So serious question. What if we refused to play the game in Baton Rouge and the game never got rescheduled, then finished the conference slate 6-1 with UT 6-2? The SEC tells us tough sh*t, you can't go to Atlanta because you didn't play 8 games. What would the meltdown look like then?

From what has been said on TV and sports radio, the rule is that 8 games shall be scheduled. Just a quick Google search for a legal dictionary reveals that "shall" is defined as:

1) an imperative command as in "you shall not kill." 2) in some statutes, "shall" is a direction but does not mean mandatory, depending on the context.

Law can jump in here, but unless "shall" is defined in the bylaws as something different, then an exclusion from the Championship game would have welcomed the lawyers in. That furthers the idea that UF was taking the high road. SOS was on Steve Russell and pointed out that the SEC thanked UF for their efforts but didn't thank LSU.

 

[KronoGator]

They weren't going to bump the title game, that's part of why we got shafted, it was this or no game, which would have been better, we may have needed a win over the blue hose to get to a bowl.

 

[TN G8tr]

I don think think Sankey has the balls to make that decision.

I agree which is why I would think Sankey caves to the epic Vol meltdown and from the conference and sends UT to ATL. No Balz.

 

[Alagator]

From what has been said on TV and sports radio, the rule is that 8 games shall be scheduled. Just a quick Google search for a legal dictionary reveals that "shall" is defined as:

1) an imperative command as in "you shall not kill." 2) in some statutes, "shall" is a direction but does not mean mandatory, depending on the context.

Law can jump in here, but unless "shall" is defined in the bylaws as something different, then an exclusion from the Championship game would have welcomed the lawyers in. That furthers the idea that UF was taking the high road. SOS was on Steve Russell and pointed out that the SEC thanked UF for their efforts but didn't thank LSU.

At this point in time I'm not sure LSU cares if they were thanked or not. They used this natural disaster as a way to steal a home game from a rival and get one for themselves. It is absolutely slimey.

I only hope Sankey and the SEC remember this shamefulness for years to come and they get absolutely screwed with scheduling for the next decade or two.