UPDATE: QB Malik Zaire officially a Gator

[T REX]

Our other QBs

1. Couldnt beat out Oregon Sts 1 and 2
2. Couldnt get an offer as a QB (but several as WR)
3. Couldnt complete passes vs air and has a windup like a right fielder
4. Get any Div 1 or Div 2 offers and has less experience than a good high school freshman QB halfway through his first season.

I hear the whispers of a qb whisperer...

 

[Gator2222]

We have neither the O line nor the QB and most importantly no playcaller sufficiently talented to even rise to below average as an offense.

I know it's fashionable to hate Nuss around here, but when I look at the tape we have open receivers pretty much every play. The problem hasn't been our ability to get people open. The problem has been protecting the QB and decision making/accuracy. If we have open receivers how is it a bad play call? Just curious.

 

[G8trwood]

I think you make our point, you can have receivers open every play, but withou a system to get them the ball, they are just placeholders that don't matter. Add in a basic runnung scheme and you have #114

 

[Gator Fever]

I know it's fashionable to hate Nuss around here, but when I look at the tape we have open receivers pretty much every play. The problem hasn't been our ability to get people open. The problem has been protecting the QB and decision making/accuracy. If we have open receivers how is it a bad play call? Just curious.

I can show you open receivers on many plays that didn't work out with Clemson and Bama also. The problem is if you are calling predictable plays that get defended well early the QB under more pressure isn't going to find that receiver that gets open later during the play or wasn't one of the first 2 reads.

 

[Gator2222]

I think you make our point, you can have receivers open every play, but withou a system to get them the ball, they are just placeholders that don't matter. Add in a basic runnung scheme and you have #114

The "system to get them the ball" is the QB. When Muschamp finished burning the place to the ground he left 6 OL, a QB taking PEDs and a CB that took snaps and averaged a rape charge per year. Two years later we have players and depth, but lack experience. It seems to me that the problem has been on the roster more than the playbook.

I can show you open receivers on many plays that didn't work out with Clemson and Bama also. The problem is if you are calling predictable plays that get defended well early the QB under more pressure isn't going to find that receiver that gets open later during the play or wasn't one of the first 2 reads.

I have tons of gifs that show 5 receivers open from the time the ball is snapped and the QB either running for his life or throwing the ball at the WRs feet. In my opinion, the lack of talent and depth and then the lack of experience has been the issue.

 

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

That's some revisionist history if I ever saw it. The OL was thin due to injuries, Mac had grier and Driskel. He could've kept grier here. WM left him an elite defense and enough on offense to make the seccg. Without WM players Mac is 5-7 or 6-6 in 2 years.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I know it's fashionable to hate Nuss around here, but when I look at the tape we have open receivers pretty much every play.

Yes, when you put inept offenses on the field and have zero chance of actually hurting the defense, they tend to play soft zone and just blitz the fvkk out if you.

Once you finish 100th or worse three years in a row, you are proven commodity.

 

[TLB]

At 5'12" he's a midget.

Would he lose a star if he were listed as 4'24"?

 

[Gator Fever]

That's some revisionist history if I ever saw it. The OL was thin due to injuries, Mac had grier and Driskel. He could've kept grier here. WM left him an elite defense and enough on offense to make the seccg. Without WM players Mac is 5-7 or 6-6 in 2 years.

You mean Treon - Driskel had already left.

 

[Marianna-FL_Gator]

 

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

You mean Treon - Driskel had already left.

Jeff left 1-9-15. Mac was hired in December

 

[Gator Fever]

Jeff left 1-9-15. Mac was hired in December

Well he was already leaving everyone knew.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Well he was already leaving everyone knew.

Shane Matthews was a 4th string QB who got suspended for gambling in the fall of 1989 when Spurrier was hired. Probably everyone knew he was leaving too. But he stayed for spring ball, won the job etc.

So I think the point here is that Driskel was here when McElwain was hired. Thus when McElwain was hired there were a number of QBs on the roster with eligibility remaining including a future NFL draft pick. Yet McElwain has yet to develop a QB at UF.

Could McElwain have kept Driskel at UF? I am not sure. I do know he did not keep him. Was that because it was best for Driskel to leave given the reaction of UF fans to him? Maybe, but then it was McElwain's job to sell him on staying and sell the UF fan base on him giving UF the best chance to win.

Now who knows what would have happened had Driskel stayed. Maybe UF does not win the East these last two years and McElwain is really on the hot seat. Maybe Driskel would have performed the same at UF as he had in the past and LaTech really was where he needed to be. Still none of that changes that Driskel was at UF when McElwain was hired and McElwain either did not choose to try to keep him or was unable to keep him.

 

[Gatorup!]

Has it really gone from he should have kept Grier to he should have hung on to Driskel?

 

[Gator Fever]

Shane Matthews was a 4th string QB who got suspended for gambling in the fall of 1989 when Spurrier was hired. Probably everyone knew he was leaving too. But he stayed for spring ball, won the job etc.

So I think the point here is that Driskel was here when McElwain was hired. Thus when McElwain was hired there were a number of QBs on the roster with eligibility remaining including a future NFL draft pick. Yet McElwain has yet to develop a QB at UF.

Could McElwain have kept Driskel at UF? I am not sure. I do know he did not keep him. Was that because it was best for Driskel to leave given the reaction of UF fans to him? Maybe, but then it was McElwain's job to sell him on staying and sell the UF fan base on him giving UF the best chance to win.

Now who knows what would have happened had Driskel stayed. Maybe UF does not win the East these last two years and McElwain is really on the hot seat. Maybe Driskel would have performed the same at UF as he had in the past and LaTech really was where he needed to be. Still none of that changes that Driskel was at UF when McElwain was hired and McElwain either did not choose to try to keep him or was unable to keep him.

Letting him go may have been the only smart thing Mac did if he had a chance to keep him at UF. Driskel was just put in a perfect situation and system to hide his faults at LTech. I doubt he was ever going to do anything against SEC level competition. I see your point about not even trying however.

 

[playzwtrux]

i entered the thread think'n I'd read up on this Zaire kid, and all I've got is Driskel & Grier info -

maybe the thread title should change

 

[Gator98MD]

what were nuss's offenses ranked at his previous stops? I mean if the guy was world beater elsewhere and came here and stunk it up, you could blame that on roster issues. But, if everywhere hes been his offenses are poorly ranked, you've got an indictment of the individual

 

[rogdochar]

Has it really gone from he should have kept Grier to he should have hung on to Driskel?

Driskel & Dad asked for a guarantee.

what were nuss's offenses ranked at his previous stops? I mean if the guy was world beater elsewhere and came here and stunk it up, you could blame that on roster issues. But, if everywhere hes been his offenses are poorly ranked, you've got an indictment of the individual

Were there OC applicants with several years of better than 100 ranked offenses. I'd like to see those made public so if the bias is egregious we can protest-march down Gator Walk, maybe pull up a brick or two to throw through Mac's office window, showing "bad-hiring" has no safe-place at UF - an avalanche of knowflakes put a freeze on bad-hiring.

 

[Gator Fever]

Driskel & Dad asked for a guarantee.



Were there OC applicants with several years of better than 100 ranked offenses. I'd like to see those made public so if the bias is egregious we can protest-march down Gator Walk, maybe pull up a brick or two to throw through Mac's office window, showing "bad-hiring" has no safe-place at UF - an avalanche of knowflakes put a freeze on bad-hiring.

Mac would have been better off getting a young up and comer from a non power 5 school probably.

 

[Alagator]

The "system to get them the ball" is the QB. When Muschamp finished burning the place to the ground he left 6 OL, a QB taking PEDs and a CB that took snaps and averaged a rape charge per year. Two years later we have players and depth, but lack experience. It seems to me that the problem has been on the roster more than the playbook.


I have tons of gifs that show 5 receivers open from the time the ball is snapped and the QB either running for his life or throwing the ball at the WRs feet. In my opinion, the lack of talent and depth and then the lack of experience has been the issue.

2x4, I enjoy your optimism. I really do. As it adds a different taste to the pallet which is usually restricted to a diet full of doom and gloom. And I know people bust your chops about being a GA or working for the football team in some form or fashion. I personally have tended to believe that you work for the university in another capacity which simply brings you into proximity of the team (I've kinda assumed you were a physical therapist or something like that).

But I have to tell ya... You telling us you have tons of gifs,on the ready, as proof that Nuss is indeed a good play caller....... well... That sorta kinda does sound like you're employment somehow is related to favorable propaganda for Mac and company.