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He was 280 last spring. Probably 260-270 playing weight. I’d expect that he’ll put on a bit more weight.

https://florida.rivals.com/news/bigger-and-more-experienced-polite-looking-to-make-greater-impact

That article is from last year (April). It says he's over 270....then he was listed at 260 on the UAA roster. I've said this a hundred times, but that roster was all jacked up. The only correction they made to it was they initially listed TJ Moore (true freshman OL) as 6' tall....later changed to 6'5. CeCe was listed at 242...there's no way he played at 242 last year. Polite may have been heavier, but he sure didn't look it.

In the article, his HS coach says his goal is to be 290 before he leaves UF:



The good news is that Polite is putting on the weight and adding good muscle to his frame. Since arriving at UF last summer at about 260 pounds, Polite has gained nearly 20 pounds. It's been part of a notable body transformation, as according to Nolan, Polite saw his weight increase by 15 pounds to the 250 mark between his junior and senior seasons of high school.

"As soon as he got to Florida in June, by August he had already put on six or seven pounds, like quick," Nolan said. "It's in his body, it's hereditary. His genes were big. When I was in the league, I was 6-foot-3, 320 pounds. He's got another uncle the same size as me. It's in his genes to get big as he gets older. Then, he'll hit the weights because he likes the weight room. So, that's going to blow him up."

Down the road in his career, Polite’s goal weight is to be at about 290 pounds, according to Nolan. However, being able to carry whatever weight he’s at well is the important thing he has in mind.

"By the time it’s said and done, I would say like 290. At 280, he got there so fast. He put on that weight so fast - it takes time to grow into your body," Nolan said. "He went from 235 to 250 to his junior to senior year, and that kind of slowed him up."

Nolan feels Polite's added weight since he's arrived at Florida has helped the game slow down for him. As compared to Polite's freshman season, where at about 270 pounds he struggled at times with his confidence defending the run going up against bigger SEC offensive linemen, Nolan sees his nephew growing more comfortable in that area.
 

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Good points. Clayton was listed at 254 last year. If he gets over 270, sure he could play DT. If he stays under 260, you're right, he probably plays more OLB.
 

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Interestingly enough, the Jarvis Jones reference may be pretty on point. He was a monster rushing the QB and he looked fast on the field. Then he goes to the combine/pro day – whichever it was – and runs a 4.9.
 

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Good points. Clayton was listed at 254 last year. If he gets over 270, sure he could play DT. If he stays under 260, you're right, he probably plays more OLB.

I think Clayton gets up to 270 and plays DE probably. The guys in front of him wen't much better than him I think but he got buried on the depth chart. He gave Taylor fits in that Spring game. I think he may be a breakout player this year if he gets up to 270.
 

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Spring Preview: Will receivers finally realize their potential?
GatorBait.net previews the receivers heading into spring, a group that has been hailed as promising in recent years but gone on to disappoint. Will it change in 2018?

https://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/...ers-finally-realize-their-potential-115928725

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida players are on spring break this week, taking a bit of time off between a grueling stretch of strength and conditionining and the beginning of spring practice. With spring ball set to begin on March 16, GatorBait.net takes a look at each position to provide you with our three top questions, how we think the depth chart will turn out following spring ball and more.

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Wide Receiver
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THREE KEY QUESTIONS

*** Will Florida get word on Van Jefferson or Trevon Grimes during spring ball?

Whether this question gets answered in the spring or after, it's easily the most impactful to the position for the 2018 season. Jefferson left Ole Miss after feeling mislead during the recruiting process about the level of sanctions the Rebels might face stemming from the NCAA's investigation of major rules violations. He's one of a handful of former Rebels who has hired legal representation in the case, and CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd reported recently that the NCAA is expected to rule on the case in late March or early April. The timeline on Grimes' appeal is less clear, but Florida getting either cleared would be big news. If it happens during spring ball, even better, as it allows the Gators coaches to have a clearer idea who can help next fall.

*** How will Kadarius Toney be utilized?

New coach Dan Mullen faced one question on his pre-spring speaking tour routinely: Will Kadarius Toney play quarterback? On each subsequent day his answer became more and more concrete that Toney is a receiver. But as one of Florida's most electric players, how much will the Gators do to get Toney involved in different ways? Mullen has gotten creative with explosive players in the past, using them out of the backfield, motioning them all over the place and even adding in wrinkles where they can throw. Few have the explosive ability Toney has, and if he has bulked up a bit to gain some added durability, he's a guy the Gators simply have to find a way to take advantage of.

*** Can a group that was tabbed with a ton of potential finally realize it?

Many hailed Florida's receiver corps as one of the top groups in the SEC a year ago, if not the country. Sure, that was before Antonio Callaway was suspended for the season, but it was also based largely around the idea that guys like Joshua Hammond and Freddie Swain were poised to make a big sophomore surge. It never happened. There remains a ton of potential on the roster. Tyrie Cleveland is a proven threat, Toney has shown glimpses of what he can do with the ball in his hands, Dre Massey has some versatility. Add Jefferson and Grimes to the mix and there's no reason this group shouldn't produce next fall. Perhaps a coaching change will help; former receivers coach Kerry Dixon had never coached receivers before his stint at Florida. On the other hand, Billy Gonzales has extensive experience not just coaching receivers, but developing elite ones. This group has to break through and finally start tapping into its potential for the offense to execute a truly meaningful turnaround.

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HOW WE PROJECT THE POST-SPRING DEPTH CHART

Wide Receiver (X):

Tyrie Cleveland, JR
Trevon Grimes, SO
Daquon Green, SO

Wide Receiver (Y):

Van Jefferson, JR
Joshua Hammond, JR
Rick Wells, RSO

Wide Receiver (Slot):

Kadarius Toney, SO
Freddie Swain, JR
Dre Massey, RSR

Explanation: Like always when we break down receivers, don't get too hung up on individual positions. In Mullen's system over the years, there has frequently been some crossover and guys will train at multiple spots. Cleveland and Jefferson are likely to be the top two at the position before there's a bit of a gap between everyone else. The job for the starting slot receiver should be a good one, while the guys vying for playing time behind Cleveland and Jefferson will have plenty of opportunities to seperate themselves.

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WHAT WE WANT TO SEE

Believe it or not, despite their potentially limited ceiling in terms of top-end explosiveness, the two guys who might benefit most from the coaching change are Swain and Hammond. Both have proven capable blockers, something that Gonzales and company harp on in terms of getting more snaps. That should put them on the field more often and earn them some trust from the coaching staff, and that's how you get more looks at receiver. What we want to see is whether they can make that correlate to improved production.

After that, this spring will be all about getting a feel for exactly what Jefferson and Grimes can add to the mix. Jefferson is a proven commodity, but Grimes is more of an unknown. He hasn't played much at the college level but clearly has a ton of potential. Finally, this spring will give us an early idea on whether guys like Wells or Massey really have much of a place in this offense. Clock is ticking for both of those guys.

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QB Emory Jones trains over spring break
Gators freshman QB working hard

https://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/...ns-with-QB-coach-over-spring-break--115947627

This week may be Spring Break for the University of Florida students, but this week is anything but a break for Gators freshman early enrollee quarterback Emory Jones.

Instead of taking it east this week, Jones spent several days working on his craft in South Florida with quarterback coach Quincy Avery, who has coached many top signal callers in his career. Avery has also been involved with the Elite 11 quarterback competition as well as the Nike Opening and also co-founded the quarterback 'Flight School', which is a training course that has been used to tutor many top quarterbacks.

Some footage of the week, which includes Jones in action can be found below.

1st week of Colllege Spribg break training. Had QBs from Florida, Memphis, JMU & a host of others. @eXjones6 @David_Moore5 @B_DiNucci3 @aherink_07 @Scott_T_Forbes pic.twitter.com/fp3PclgW5n

— Quincy Avery (@Quincy_Avery)
March 7, 2018


Jones will surely have his arm warmed up for the Gators spring football practices, which open next Friday. The first two practices (Friday and Saturday) are open to the general public, and the Gators announced the time and other details for the open practice earlier this week.

The Gators will also take to the field for the Orange and Blue spring game on April 14 at 3:00 PM ET.
 

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I think these guys will be much improved this season simply because we have a strength and conditioning program that is actually doing its job. Also helps that we don't have a bunch of lazy morons coaching them either.
 

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Wunderlich puts out some good articles...

Tyrie Cleveland is the key for Florida’s 2018 offense

https://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/tyrie-cleveland-is-the-key-for-floridas-2018-offense/

There are a couple of old videos on YouTube of University of Utah quarterbacks coach Dan Mullen explaining the take on the spread offense that he helped implement under head coach Urban Meyer. They are an interesting time capsule both for that era — Mullen is diagramming plays on a whiteboard on top of a projection from a Windows XP computer — and for a time when a lot of general football fans didn’t yet understand this newfangled “spread offense”.

Mullen describes an unsustainably pure vision of what the offense was. “The basis of the spread offense,” he says, “is an option attack that gives the deception that we are a very pass-oriented team by spreading the field from sideline to sideline with multiple sets of three, four, and five wide receivers.” It was an offense with running backs, receivers, and pass-catching and run-blocking tight ends.

When he and Meyer arrived at Florida, they moved the team’s fullbacks to linebacker. You can still see Billy Latsko and Eric Rutledge listed as such on the 2005 roster. According to Meyer’s old authorized biography Urban’s Way, Meyer, Mullen, and Steve Addazio met right after the ’05 LSU loss and retooled the offense to include fullbacks, tight ends blocking on pass plays, and fewer four and five-wide sets.

I found the 2005 Alabama loss on YouTube to see what the pre-overhaul offense was like — I don’t recommend this, by the way — and saw a multitude of four and five-wide sets and a few run plays with Latsko and Tate Casey as blockers. Sure enough though, those two never blocked on a single pass play. They blocked on runs and ran patterns on passes. The only time Casey lined up next to a tackle and blocked was on a designed quarterback draw for Josh Portis.

So, those videos are interesting historically and something to make Mullen cringe, whether for his monotone delivery or pleated khaki pants. The philosophy in them does still remain to this day in one important respect.

Mullen repeats over and over that the purpose of spreading out the defense is to make it defend the entire width of the field. In the passing video, he lets on that it’s not just horizontal space that matters. “As well as having a quick passing attack,” he explains, “you need a down-the-field vertical passing attack so that the defense cannot sit on you when you’re trying to throw the ball, and again forcing them to cover not only the entire width but the depth of the field as well.”

The 2005 team never really had a shot at running the offense at a high level because it just didn’t have enough at receiver. Chad Jackson had 88 catches and Dallas Baker had 52, but no one else had even 30. Bubba Caldwell went down for the season after three games, and Jemalle Cornelius and Jackson battled injury at times. The 2006 team, by comparison, had five guys with at least 30 catches, with the fleet boosted by Cornelius Ingram’s move to tight end and the arrival of Percy Harvin.

The offense took off in 2007 with Tim Tebow ascending to the quarterback spot, but that team also had a pair of quality deep threats in Caldwell and Harvin. Harvin and Louis Murphy could go long in 2008, and Riley Cooper was that guy in 2009. The ’09 offense didn’t work at as high a level, though, because it lacked quality depth at the receiver position. At receiver the Meyer/Mullen spread offense must have both quality depth, to force the defense to cover the entire field horizontally, and at least one true deep threat, to force the defense to cover the entire field vertically as well.

The pattern has continued for Meyer at Ohio State. It’s no coincidence that his first three offenses in Columbus were terrific with Devin Smith as his deep threat. Smith average an eye-popping 28.2 yards per catch in the national title campaign of 2014. The offense then regressed a bit the next two years without him before returning to form in 2017 with Johnny Dixon averaging 23.4 yards per catch.

It held for Mullen at Mississippi State as well. His three best offenses as rated by S&P+ were also his only three with a receiver that averaged more than 16 yards per catch on more than 15 receptions on the season.

All of this is to say that Tyrie Cleveland is the single most important player to the 2018 Florida offense aside from the quarterback. Cleveland has proven himself to be a true deep threat, putting up 21.3 yards per catch on 14 receptions in 2016 and 18.6 yards per grab on 22 receptions last year. He must prove himself to be more than that to progress as a player as he hits his upperclassman years, but he really is a guy who can force the defense to cover the entire field vertically.

I think UF may have the quality depth to force the defense to cover the field horizontally, especially if Trevon Grimes and/or Van Jefferson are cleared to play right away. Kadarius Toney has the ability to be magical in this offense from the slot. Josh Hammond and Freddie Swain can be reliable possession receivers with some better coaching to clean things up. Dre Massey is fast, while signees Jacob Copeland and Justin Watkins have very impressive high school tape.

The horizontal is only half of the equation, though. The vertical must also be there, and that’s what Cleveland does. The philosophy and history are clear: the offense that Mullen runs can’t hit its peak potential without a true deep threat. Whether Cleveland can stay healthy and keep his past form will determine where the ceiling of the 2018 Florida offense will be.
 

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Spring Preview: Will receivers finally realize their potential?
GatorBait.net previews the receivers heading into spring, a group that has been hailed as promising in recent years but gone on to disappoint. Will it change in 2018?

https://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/...ers-finally-realize-their-potential-115928725

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida players are on spring break this week, taking a bit of time off between a grueling stretch of strength and conditionining and the beginning of spring practice. With spring ball set to begin on March 16, GatorBait.net takes a look at each position to provide you with our three top questions, how we think the depth chart will turn out following spring ball and more.

___________
Wide Receiver
___________

THREE KEY QUESTIONS

*** Will Florida get word on Van Jefferson or Trevon Grimes during spring ball?

Whether this question gets answered in the spring or after, it's easily the most impactful to the position for the 2018 season. Jefferson left Ole Miss after feeling mislead during the recruiting process about the level of sanctions the Rebels might face stemming from the NCAA's investigation of major rules violations. He's one of a handful of former Rebels who has hired legal representation in the case, and CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd reported recently that the NCAA is expected to rule on the case in late March or early April. The timeline on Grimes' appeal is less clear, but Florida getting either cleared would be big news. If it happens during spring ball, even better, as it allows the Gators coaches to have a clearer idea who can help next fall.

*** How will Kadarius Toney be utilized?

New coach Dan Mullen faced one question on his pre-spring speaking tour routinely: Will Kadarius Toney play quarterback? On each subsequent day his answer became more and more concrete that Toney is a receiver. But as one of Florida's most electric players, how much will the Gators do to get Toney involved in different ways? Mullen has gotten creative with explosive players in the past, using them out of the backfield, motioning them all over the place and even adding in wrinkles where they can throw. Few have the explosive ability Toney has, and if he has bulked up a bit to gain some added durability, he's a guy the Gators simply have to find a way to take advantage of.

*** Can a group that was tabbed with a ton of potential finally realize it?

Many hailed Florida's receiver corps as one of the top groups in the SEC a year ago, if not the country. Sure, that was before Antonio Callaway was suspended for the season, but it was also based largely around the idea that guys like Joshua Hammond and Freddie Swain were poised to make a big sophomore surge. It never happened. There remains a ton of potential on the roster. Tyrie Cleveland is a proven threat, Toney has shown glimpses of what he can do with the ball in his hands, Dre Massey has some versatility. Add Jefferson and Grimes to the mix and there's no reason this group shouldn't produce next fall. Perhaps a coaching change will help; former receivers coach Kerry Dixon had never coached receivers before his stint at Florida. On the other hand, Billy Gonzales has extensive experience not just coaching receivers, but developing elite ones. This group has to break through and finally start tapping into its potential for the offense to execute a truly meaningful turnaround.

___________

HOW WE PROJECT THE POST-SPRING DEPTH CHART

Wide Receiver (X):

Tyrie Cleveland, JR
Trevon Grimes, SO
Daquon Green, SO

Wide Receiver (Y):

Van Jefferson, JR
Joshua Hammond, JR
Rick Wells, RSO

Wide Receiver (Slot):

Kadarius Toney, SO
Freddie Swain, JR
Dre Massey, RSR

Explanation: Like always when we break down receivers, don't get too hung up on individual positions. In Mullen's system over the years, there has frequently been some crossover and guys will train at multiple spots. Cleveland and Jefferson are likely to be the top two at the position before there's a bit of a gap between everyone else. The job for the starting slot receiver should be a good one, while the guys vying for playing time behind Cleveland and Jefferson will have plenty of opportunities to seperate themselves.

___________

WHAT WE WANT TO SEE

Believe it or not, despite their potentially limited ceiling in terms of top-end explosiveness, the two guys who might benefit most from the coaching change are Swain and Hammond. Both have proven capable blockers, something that Gonzales and company harp on in terms of getting more snaps. That should put them on the field more often and earn them some trust from the coaching staff, and that's how you get more looks at receiver. What we want to see is whether they can make that correlate to improved production.

After that, this spring will be all about getting a feel for exactly what Jefferson and Grimes can add to the mix. Jefferson is a proven commodity, but Grimes is more of an unknown. He hasn't played much at the college level but clearly has a ton of potential. Finally, this spring will give us an early idea on whether guys like Wells or Massey really have much of a place in this offense. Clock is ticking for both of those guys.

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Dixon never coached wide receivers. LOL.
 

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Spring Preview: Can Lewis emerge as the go-to tight end?
GatorBait.net breaks down the tight end position for Florida heading into spring, looking at a few key questions and diving into our expectations.

https://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/...Lewis-emerge-as-the-go-to-tight-end-115971284

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida players are on spring break this week, taking a bit of time off between a grueling stretch of strength and conditionining and the beginning of spring practice. With spring ball set to begin on March 16, GatorBait.net takes a look at each position to provide you with our three top questions, how we think the depth chart will turn out following spring ball and more.

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Tight End
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THREE KEY QUESTIONS

*** Can C'yontai Lewis improve his consistency and be the go-to guy?

With DeAndre Goolsby gone, Lewis has by far the most experience of anyone on the roster, even given Moral Stephens appearance late last year. Lewis has the best athleticism among the returning players, and he's always been a willing and capable blocker. The biggest issue for Lewis has been his hands. He has dropped a lot of passes in key situations, particularly on third down. If he can fix that, he can really be a guy that helps tie the offense together. Dan Mullen loves to take advantage of athletic tight ends, and Lewis has been pointed to as a natural leader and an energy guy for the offense. If he can simply get more consistent catching the football he could be poised for a strong senior season.

*** Will there be enough quality at the position to use multiple tight end personnel groupings?

There will be plenty of tight ends on the roster next fall, with a pair of freshmen joining Lewis, Stephens and redshirt freshman Kemore Gamble. But there is very little in the way of returning production and certainly no one you can immediately point to as a quality, proven SEC player. Much less two. Mullen certainly can run a system that doesn't require multiple tight ends, but he can also do more if he has the potential to put two on the field at the same time. It varies what the offense can do. But Florida has to develop another guy that can play at a reasonably high level before 2018 to feel comfortable about using many multiple tight end personnel groupings.

*** Will one of the three freshmen be able to play next fall?

Gamble was touted as a potential difference-maker when he was signed, but he has work to do to get in the right shape physically. At least right now, it doesn't sound like he has done much to impress the coaches and put himself in a position to make a move. That needs to change. If it doesn't, Florida will need one of its two true freshman signees who will enroll this summer to emerge in fall camp ready to play. Pitts is probably the favorite in that regard. He has a big frame and is fairly athletic for a big tight end.
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HOW WE PROJECT THE POST-SPRING DEPTH CHART

Tight End:

C'yontai Lewis, RSR
Moral Stephens, RSR
Kemore Gamble, RFR

Explanation: If you're looking for shake-up on the tight end depth chart, you might have to wait until fall camp when the freshmen arrive to see some movement. We feel pretty strongly that Lewis will be the starter, as Mullen has preached about wanting to have guys that bring energy and show leadership. Stephens should be ahead of Gamble for now just on experience.

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WHAT WE WANT TO SEE

There's a few things we'll be looking at this spring. First, we haven't mentioned Stephens that much because his upside appears to be reasonably limited. He's simply never going to be as fast as Lewis, but he can be a good in-line blocker and checkdown option underneath. Can he continue to do all the little things right to put himself into position to play like he did late in the 2017 season?

The other two things we're looking for is whether our anticipated emergence of Lewis as a more capable and reliable player actually happens and whether Gamble can shake the early impression he seems to have given that he has work to do off the field in the strength and conditioning program to be ready to play. If either or both of those things happen, Florida should be OK at the tight end position in 2018. In all, the talent level at the position needs to be improved moving forward, though.

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