***OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: UF vs MSU***

[jhbyrd]

It was a joke, vulcan.

Of course it was a joke implying that UK sucks. If UK stays injury free they will do well as they have many of the key fundamentals to be good. UK does not have the depth of the likely play off teams but they do not suck.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

This is a real conundrum for some here. Using the "KY is really good" excuse for us getting owned by them on the one hand, but how are the same gonna square how good ms St is as a justification for mullz when it turns out state still blows, like always.

I dunno, just interesting.

 

[Zambo]

This is a real conundrum for some here. Using the "KY is really good" excuse for us getting owned by them on the one hand, but how are the same gonna square how good ms St is as a justification for mullz when it turns out state still blow, like always.

I dunno, just interesting.

In order to get beyond such a conundrum, one simply has to realize the very limited benefits of the transitive property when it comes to football games.

 

[78]

This is a real conundrum for some here. Using the "KY is really good" excuse for us getting owned by them on the one hand, but how are the same gonna square how good ms St is as a justification for mullz when it turns out state still blow, like always.

I dunno, just interesting.

Every team improves at a different clip. They were the better team for myriad reasons, none or the least of which was some of the poorest tackling I've seen in years.

The team I saw in Knoxville last night doesn't do that if it faces Kentucky this week.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

Every team improves at a different clip. They were the better team for myriad reasons, none or the least of which was some of the poorest tackling I've seen in years.

The team I saw in Knoxville last night doesn't do that if it faces Kentucky this week.

I agree, defense was totally a different unit tonight. You guys aren't saying anything I don't already know or agree with. My post was simply intended to highlight some of the more ridiculous arguments made to this point.

 

[GatorTruth133]

I'm convinced that UK beating MSU yesterday showed more that MSU is overrated than it did that Kentucky is for real. Might as well start this conversation now.

How does UF play this week? Does Mullen's familiarity with the roster give UF any kind of advantage? Do the MSU players and coaches knowing Mullen's tendencies give THEM any kind of advantage?

Is MSU really any good? Cowbells?

Discuss.

I've thought they were overrated since the pre-season. However, I'm not convinced that Mark Stoops may not have finally found its roster. I didn't think their QB would be that great for them, but he has been better than I believed. His running ability and speed helps open up places for Snell. If we somehow cannot find a miracle to Atlanta then I would rather Kentucky make it than UGA.

I think Mullen knowing Fitz can't throw too well gives us a big advantage. If we see the team wrap up like they did in Knoxville as opposed to what we saw against Kentucky then I think we are in a good position. The one issue is that Mississippi State has a much better line than UT.

Knowing Mullen's tendencies only help to a point. Most of this team has only been around for Fitz and his aerial limitations to know Mullen's offensive tendencies. Obviously, Franks is a different type of QB and the offense operates differently in some ways. Personally, I think we had a lot we were going to display against Tennessee that we didn't because of the short fields.

 

[Silverback Gator]

Every team improves at a different clip. They were the better team for myriad reasons, none or the least of which was some of the poorest tackling I've seen in years.

Even if Kentucky does not have the potential this UF roster has it matters greatly that they have played together under the same staff and systems since they joined the Kentucky football program. This may be Kentucky and Stoops' high water mark season while we, hopefully, are nowhere near our ceiling. Continuity and brotherhood helped them play a somewhat underdeveloped UF team very tough. Next year should be a lot different and they will lose a big group of starters to graduation.

 

[GatorTruth133]

This is a real conundrum for some here. Using the "KY is really good" excuse for us getting owned by them on the one hand, but how are the same gonna square how good ms St is as a justification for mullz when it turns out state still blows, like always.

I dunno, just interesting.

Here's what little I can throw out there on this topic. Nick Fitzgerald works within the confines of a Dan Mullen offense. He doesn't work as well in a Jim Moorehead offense as both are trying to hybrid their system/abilities to the other. It's like bringing in John Brantley to run the spread, isn't going to work for anyone. Also, Kentucky is better than anyone in the pre-season gave them credit for. They could end up a 9-4, 10-3 team after bowl season if they stay healthy. I think taking the Florida monkey off their back also helps them.

 

[5-Star Finger]

Discuss.

It's more "both/and" rather than "either/or." I think Kentucky is a better team this year than many are willing to give it credit for. I think maybe Miss State was overvalued as well, but I do believe they will still make some noise in the West. No one is beating Alabama.

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

UK is absolutely a great football team. You guys are letting their historical sh*ttiness cloud your judgment. I don't know how anyone could watch what they did to both us and MSU and not think they're a great football team. Solid and fundamentally sound defense, great in the trenches, fantastic RBs, and a dual threat QB who has gottten better each week.

Having said that, last night also took a lot of the shine off MSU. It shows they still have real issues throwing the ball, and the defense might not be as good as advertised. Next week should be an interesting game.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

In order to get beyond such a conundrum, one simply has to realize the very limited benefits of the transitive property when it comes to football games.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

UK is absolutely a great football team.

yeah... let's wait til the end of the season, furball. Great? :Lmao2:. besides weren't you the one mocking me for saying we could lose to Kintucky the last 2 years.

It shows they still have real issues throwing the ball,

How could that ever have been in doubt? They are averaging 107th in passing with this POS Qb.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

INo one is beating Alabama.

Bammer destroys them. Scores as much as they want.

 

[UFHealthGator]

Holy crap I agree.

 

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

Fitzgerald sucks at passing. Thompson should start.

 

[GatorJB]

I don't think MSU is as good as advertised but I still think that will be a tough game to win for a few reasons. First, the players love the opportunity to beat thier former coach. Mullen willingly left them and beating him would be very satisfying. Second, we don't ever play well in Starkville. Not sure why but it's a concern. Third, these players know Mullen and these coaches well. We aren't going to do anything that they haven't seen or practiced before. They will be the most prepared team we play all year because of this. And last, they do have a good D-line which is a poor matchup for our O-line.

MSU is simply an average at best team, but this will still be a tough game. I think because of the momentum of the UT win we win a close one.

 

[Okeechobee Joe]

Kentucky is better than Kentucky usually is but that's not saying they have risen to level of a championship caliber team. Let them play Alabama and we would see how good they are. Benny Snell Jr. runs with an attitude but I don't like him.

Mississippi State's Joe Moorhead is a nice guy but he looks like a big zombie with head phones on the sideline. He won't do as good at State as Mullen did. One of the keys to beating Mississippi State is to take the crowd out of the game early with turnovers the way we did to Tennessee.

 

[jhbyrd]

The draft analysts were correct on the 5 UK players that could get drafted. Their LB, center and RB (3rd in nation in rushing) are very good. UK has some talented first stringers. Their new QB was the surprise in how quickly he has adapted.

Agree that we would win versus UK in game 7 assuming Reese was healthy. We really missed Reese in the UK game. His 11 tackles versus UT show how important he is for the UF defense. Plus our DLs have now learned to stay in their gaps in our new defense.

I don't know what UK's ranking is now but they were unranked yesterday.

 

[UFHealthGator]

Reading their forums, already some of the MSU fans wish they offered Mullen 7mill to stay, yet many here still claim he was a dud there, and no body wanted him.