Happy Anniversary! Jim McElwain fired

[Doopree]

I laughed at the fact that they didn’t let Butters speak at the presser.

When Muschamp was fired he and Jeremy Foley had a love fest during that presser.

 

[Okeechobee Joe]

I guess Karma wins in the end.

 

[Zambo]

Everyone on here, including me, has enjoyed taking their shots at Mac. Now that he is gone, and in the way he is leaving reminds me a lot of the Tennessee departure of Fulmer. But in several ways it is different as well. In Mac's first two years, he ends up, and some will say backs into winning the SEC East, and in his third year is fired. His start at recruiting was suspect, simply by the timing of the hire, at he caught up at the last minute. The next two years have been somewhat mediocre, but still ranked. The downfall of not recovering on offense became his serious beginning of the downfall and everyone saw that. BUT, my thinking is that what is the available coaching candidates going to be thinking as this process goes forward?? One might think that by winning 2 SEC EAST division titles, and getting FIRED in the third season, is a reasonable reason for a darn good candidate NOT to come to UF. Let's face it, not many coaches get fired after winning their first two seasons!!! Just that fact by itself will eliminate some top echelon coaches, but maybe not mediocre coaches. Only those that have the confidence in their coaching abilities to overcome that AND the UF fanbase huge impatience, would consider it. The 5 miserable years between Fulmer to Jones was a huge setback to the VOLS program. I'm wondering if the MAC departure will do the same.

Anybody with a pulse, much less a top echelon football coach, can take one look at this team and what it has done over the last 2.5 years and understand instantly why Butters was fired. If somebody is afraid to come coach here because he can't handle the heat then he is doing us a favor in advance by pussing out.

 

[Doopree]

Anybody with a pulse, much less a top echelon football coach, can take one look at this team and what it has done over the last 2.5 years and understand instantly why Butters was fired. If somebody is afraid to come coach here because he can't handle the heat then he is doing us a favor in advance by pussing out.

The thing is that this firing isn’t coming as a shock to anyone. You simply have to show SOME progress at some point and with Butters literally no facet of the team was better after 2.5 years.

 

[Zambo]

Well the field goal kicking is better.

 

[NavetG8r]

Well the field goal kicking is better.

 

[jeeping8r]

But the PAT kicking is meh

 

[BluH2OGtr]

 

[gingerlover]

I feel like more is going to come out. Stories are already starting to pop up that are unfavorable for butters.

 

[Jbossgator8]

So is Clarabelle fired too or what??

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I'd prefer they escort him off the campus, and arrest him for trespassing if he shows up again. Besides, those kids have suffered enough from him already.

Where the hell have you been Bayou? Post more, bro.

 

[Chomper]

And all you have to do is refer to Stricklin's remark that this firing is about more than wins and losses. McElwain reached his peak by winning the SEC East his first two seasons despite having an abysmal offense. Now this team is stuck in the mud, continues to show no improvement on offense (40 points in the last three games) and a stubborn reluctance to stick with his buddy rather than find a new OC to help the team The death threats lie was simply fuel to the fire and the blowout loss to Ga and empty stands at half time just drove the point home. Who needs to dwell on W's and L's, when there is so much more to choose from.

 

[Slevin]

Jumping back in this thread to celebrate just a tad bit more

 

[g8tr72]

I haven't read all the threads and the posts regarding Mac's firing, so I'm just going to add my two cents worth of thoughts.

After his introductory press conference, Mac was characterized as "a used car salesman." Looking back, I think that was a very accurate and predictive description.

While his "aww-shucks" personality might have been appealing to players and their families, it was obviously all a facade as to his true character. By widespread reports, he really wasn't liked in the UAA office, and not just because of his comments about the UF facilities and priorities.

Listening to Stricklin's press conference, and the response that generated the "more than just wins and losses" comment, it is apparent to me that the big-wigs in the UAA were dissatisfied with Mac for quite a while, but Mac's death threat fiasco was the final straw.

Simply, Mac was a liar. He lied about his offense, and the infamous characterization of winning with his dog. He was stubborn about making changes to improve the offense, to the point of shunning Spurrier's input - which is akin to spitting in the pope's face. Then there's the suspensions, the NEB gear photos,.......

He was in over his head here at UF, ultimately unqualified and unable to take the pressure of the job when it was obvious to everyone that THE reason he was brought here - "We haven't been good on O and I get it" - was never going to pay off. And I believe (and the continuing failures on the field creates my conviction)that Mac knew all year that it just wasn't a good fit. That is why that Mac & UF have "mutually agreed to part ways," which is not technically a firing - Mac agreed that it was best for him to go.

Good riddance.

 

[oxrageous]

Can we stop this "mutually agreed to part ways" BS? If that were true, Mac would have walked away with a handshake and no buyout. Instead, they have been in a negotiation where he gets millions to fail. Is someone honestly trying to tell me that if UF had made no move Mac would have walked away with no money on his own? Of course not.

He may have wanted to leave, but ultimately he was fired. Period.

 

[g8tr72]

Can we stop this "mutually agreed to part ways" BS? If that were true,.......

You should tell Scott Stricklin to revise his opening statement from his press conference.

However it is worded, and whatever negotiations have and are taking place, I am just glad he's gone. Whatever monetary savings are generated by word semantics that can be applied toward the acquisition of a new coach is fine by me.

 

[bayou gator]

Where the hell have you been Bayou? Post more, bro.

Thanks, brother. I have been so busy that I haven't been able to post much. Plus, I kinda said "f*** it" to the rest of the season, and had resigned myself to the fact that the program was in the toilet until the coaching staff was removed. Once I learned of mac's BS threat statements the other day, I instantly perked up and saw some light at the end of the tunnel. I knew he was lying and it'd be a real opportunity for him to be fired. I've been like a kid on Christmas watching this all build up. It was obvious we had no chance against uga, so it was kinda bittersweet knowing we'd be hammered on the field, but at least it'd be the final straw for Mac & co. Time to celebrate!

 

[gator1946]

Can we stop this "mutually agreed to part ways" BS? If that were true, Mac would have walked away with a handshake and no buyout. Instead, they have been in a negotiation where he gets millions to fail. Is someone honestly trying to tell me that if UF had made no move Mac would have walked away with no money on his own? Of course not.

He may have wanted to leave, but ultimately he was fired. Period.

Ox, You know WE can stop with "mutually agreed to part ways". Stricklin can't. It's the only way he can say we wanted him gone and we cut a deal. My lord if one of the rumors is true, we paid 4m to Mac and out of that he pays the 1.5m we still owe CSU. Net cost to us 2.5m. I thought we'd play hardball but that kind of result is hard to believe. I'll take that so fast it'll make your head spin. Rumors are rumors. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[oxrageous]

Ox, You know WE can stop with "mutually agreed to part ways". Stricklin can't. It's the only way he can say we wanted him gone and we cut a deal. My lord if one of the rumors is true, we paid 4m to Mac and out of that he pays the 1.5m we still owe CSU. Net cost to us 2.5m. I thought we'd play hardball but that kind of result is hard to believe. I'll take that so fast it'll make your head spin. Rumors are rumors. I'll believe it when I see it.

I expect Stricklin to say it. The members of Gatorchatter certainly shouldn't be saying it.

 

[78]

I laughed at the fact that they didn’t let Butters speak at the presser.

When Muschamp was fired he and Jeremy Foley had a love fest during that presser.

They haven't formalized the buyout yet. That may be one reason. The other may be aligned with why Mac hadn't taken the time to inform the players.