Gator Recruiting Hurt By Paying Athletes Less Than Our Rivals?

[T REX]

I never argued the math but the attempted extension of claiming $170k vs 100k.

LSU only gets $600 more per year but regularly cleans our clock on the trail. You think kids are going to Baton Rouge for an extra $600 lousy dollars?

Guess what....they aren't. The problem is the staff not the stipend.

 

[Gator2222]

I don't know where these numbers come from? I have a kid at Bama and one that will be starting at Ole Miss in August and those numbers list don't even cover one semester.

Sorry if it wasn't clear in my original post. These amounts are what the school calculates would cover the full true cost of a year of school above and beyond the cost of tuition. For instance, the cost of books and school supplies.

 

[Jbossgator8]

We have to pay more under the table money and get these guys strippers, call girls, male reviewers, goats, or whatever else they are into so they can come to UF and win more Titles! Go Gators!!

 

[Gator2222]

2222, with a piece making an excuse for the staff? No way. The dude is a GA or part of the UAA.


That is not monthly

Not making any excuses for anyone. Simply giving information. I agree that it hurts recruiting, but is not the major variable. If you dropped the agenda, read the post for what it is and engaged in conversation you might have found we pretty much agree on this one. Instead you go with conspiracy theories and derision.

 

[Gator2222]

So, Tinercee is paying 170% monthly of what we are paying to these guys, a lot of whom are from the projects, and you don't know if it makes a difference? C'mon man would you rather make 100k a year or 170k a year....I'll hang up and listen.....

This is not directed at your post BMF.

I think it does make a difference in recruiting, but I don't think it's the overriding factor in most recruits final decision. I would very much like to see some form of rule that standardized the amount across the NCAA.

 

[Gator2222]

I don't understand the system as being related. The full cost is designed to make up for things that are not part of actually attending school. If we are having a low amount that is probably because the person doing the estimating is not doing it properly. It is almost impossible that UF is cheaper than some of these other schools. Perhaps I am incorrect, willing to be educated.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2015-09-03/cost-attendance-qa

It becomes a numbers game. The academics side wants to keep this number as low as possible to help recruit biochemistry students. The athletics department wants to keep this number as high as possible to help recruit line backers.

I would be willing to bet that the final number at each school has more to do with internal politics than actual costs. It would be easy to manipulate the math and arrive at pretty much any number you want.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

It's just one more straw on the camels back. $2000 difference a year is $8000-$10000 depending how long they stay. It matters.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I think it does make a difference in recruiting, but I don't think it's the overriding factor in most recruits final decision. I would very much like to see some form of rule that standardized the amount across the NCAA.

Its not overriding but its just part of the whole package of us being cheap on every aspect.

 

[Gatorup!]

Florida, thanks to tourism, oranges and retirees, is a richer state and can thus better support higher education. Hence, lower tuition, something us Florida natives and UF graduates are thankful for.

 

[T REX]

Not making any excuses for anyone. Simply giving information. I agree that it hurts recruiting, but is not the major variable. If you dropped the agenda, read the post for what it is and engaged in conversation you might have found we pretty much agree on this one. Instead you go with conspiracy theories and derision.

What's your nic at Swamp Gas? They frequently use the term "agenda" over there.

 

[ChiefGator]

It becomes a numbers game. The academics side wants to keep this number as low as possible to help recruit biochemistry students. The athletics department wants to keep this number as high as possible to help recruit line backers.

I would be willing to bet that the final number at each school has more to do with internal politics than actual costs. It would be easy to manipulate the math and arrive at pretty much any number you want.

Of course they can let me do it and we would be number three. I still don't really get how the numbers are connected, they really should have nothing to do with academic type folks, these can be whatever you might want them to be.

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

We are making recruits shell out $40 just to throw a football in front of a bunch of clueless coaches with bad hygiene. These numbers aren't shocking at all.

 

[jeeping8r]

Go look up what F$U pays. Think it's in the $6500 area. Imagine that. All Fl schools should be the same but are not. Don't care who the coach is it's hard to compete with Tallacrappy $$$$$ wise.

Just looked it up, Free Shoes pays $6018

 

[jeeping8r]

http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...college-football-cost-of-attendance-database/

This is costing F$U $2 million extra, UF's stipend costs $1 mil. Also Free shoes number is out of state, $4500 in state. UF is $3830 regardless. BTW F$U is tops in the ACC while UF is near bottom of SEC

F$U is top 5 in nation for this stipend if I looked correctly

 

[T REX]

We aren't getting in an arms war

 

[KronoGator]

I was reading a book about Florida football history, written in 1974, it talked a lot about how cheap UF was for so long, cheap with coaches, making players play in the same stuff they practice in, stuff like that.

Guess it's a tradition ;)

 

[jeeping8r]

Hell we should be able to outbid them all with just Gatorade cash.

 

[Yankeetown]

This seems like an area that the NCAA really needs to standardize. The disparity in numbers clearly suggests big-time differences in interpretation of what's included.

Tuition shouldn't be part of the calculation, since scholarship athletes get a ride on that. I thought this was intended for books, laundry, and "incidentals." I know our athletes have to buy real textbooks for real classes, while at some other schools the athletes have to buys books AND crayons, but that's not enough to account for more than $1,000 difference.

Can they get a cash housing allowance in lieu of school-provided accommodations?

 

[Gator Fever]

I dont think it matters much and Ole Miss has dropped a lot in recruiting now that the NCAA has watched them some. Maybe due to the real big payouts being cut back.

 

[Alagator]

We aren't getting in an arms war

Says the short armed dinosaur. :D