Kevin Sumlin Fired

[Swamp Donkey]

A&M has been an 8 win(at best) program my entire life. Now suddenly they have to do better. It’s pretty remarkable.

A&M is truly the sleeping giant now. They are no longer under big brothers thumb, they have enough money they probably don't even bother to count it, and have at least as many bluechip recruits as we do.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

A&M is truly the sleeping giant now. They are no longer under big brothers thumb, they have enough money they probably don't even bother to count it, and have at least as many bluechip recruits as we do.

Exactly, UF and aTm are the big dogs of the SEC. Like UF, aTm has all the requirements to be a top program long term. UF and aTm are the two programs best suited for long term success.

 

[Theologator]

I don't remember going off on you.

But if I did, it's just the internet, right?

Weird some people get bent out of shape.

I confessed I had thought Muschamp was on the cusp of restoring the program after the 2012 F$U game.

Which provoked you to poetic heights.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I confessed I had thought Muschamp was on the cusp of restoring the program after the 2012 F$U game.

Which provoked you to poetic heights.

Yes, that would do it, no doubt.

Apology accepted.

 

[Okeechobee Joe]

When A&M made the decision to go to the SEC that really changed the dynamic between A&M and Texas. Texas A&M has the resources to win a National Championship if they can get the right coach. A&M knows this and that's why they aren't sticking with no 8 - 5 coach.

 

[gingerlover]

When A&M made the decision to go to the SEC that really changed the dynamic between A&M and Texas. Texas A&M has the resources to win a National Championship if they can get the right coach. A&M knows this and that's why they aren't sticking with no 8 - 5 coach.

And why Texas doesn’t want anything to do with them anymore. Can’t look bad if you refuse to play them

 

[Theologator]

And why Texas doesn’t want anything to do with them anymore. Can’t look bad if you refuse to play them

Texas’ arrogance and greed gutted the Big 12, ruining their rivalry with A&M and Oklahoma-Nebraska.

 

[gingerlover]

Texas’ arrogance and greed gutted the Big 12, ruining their rivalry with A&M and Oklahoma-Nebraska.

Yep and their level of butthurt when another school had the nerve to get out from under them was something else

 

[InstiGATOR1]

And why Texas doesn’t want anything to do with them anymore. Can’t look bad if you refuse to play them

Sure you can look bad refusing to play someone as UTx and KU do over losing rivals to the SEC.

 

[Homer J]

Yep....a great QB can make or break a program....and a string of bad QBs (remind you of a certain school?) can KILL a program!

Obviously, coaching goes a long way as well....but losing star QBs kills momentum. FSU's season would have been completely different had they not lost the French kid (they gave Alabama a hell of a game for 3 quarters, until the QB went down).

That's another reason why I think we aren't too far off from being a good team again (if we can find a star QB to go along w/ a home-run coaching hire). There's still other issues (building depth and increasing the talent level, along w/ facilities) - but that can be fixed within a couple of years.

Sumlin is a good coach. He's definitely up there w/ any of the Plan B's we've heard mentioned.

If Jimbo is A&M's top target they sure are taking a gamble when you consider the buyout for Fisher and Sumlin, plus the salary Fisher will demand (more than FSU is paying). But, they're the richest program in the SEC so if that's what they want to do....

I agree. He can recruit the SEC. Can UF live with a coach who won 66% of their games in the SEC?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Just a reminder HC record 86-42, always a top 20 offense, just needs a DC.

And unlike Taggart Justice Warriors, you dont have to exclude his first years in order to get him to a .500 record.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

I hate you less than 49 percent of the time.

You just don't know him well enough....

 

[Concrete Helmet]

I agree. He can recruit the SEC. Can UF live with a coach who won 66% of their games in the SEC?

True but what would his conference winning % be if he had coached in the East?....Sumlin could coach circles around the Mason's and Muschamps in the East and with the defensive talent in this state I could see him putting us at least close to a top 10 team year in and year out. I don't know if he would win us a string of banners but hell I'd just like to be in the discussion(playoffs) come November at this point....

 

[Swamp Donkey]

He is right. Six or seven of the worst coaches in the SEC have been in the east the last few years.

 

[williston_gator]

@darrenrovell: $10.4 million: What Texas A&M owes Kevin Sumlin if the school fires him after tonight

(Down 20-7 at half to LSU)

They must pay him in 60 days & it's his to keep regardless of the next job he takes.

 

[Theologator]

Looking at the field, I’m not sure I’d fire Sumlin.

 

[oxrageous]

@darrenrovell: $10.4 million: What Texas A&M owes Kevin Sumlin if the school fires him after tonight

(Down 20-7 at half to LSU)

They must pay him in 60 days & it's his to keep regardless of the next job he takes.

They have to pay the entire buyout in 60 days? That's unusual.

 

[TheAlumni]

I think he is a decent coach but they would never hire a guy just fired after our last 2 coaching hires.

Wasn't Chip Kelly fired from his last two coaching jobs ?? Just about everyone was all aboard the Chip Kelly bandwagon

 

[FlGator19382]

Wasn't Chip Kelly fired from his last two coaching jobs ?? Just about everyone was all aboard the Chip Kelly bandwagon

That was in the NFL, he was 46-7 as a college coach.

 

[ATXGator]

Looking at the field, I’m not sure I’d fire Sumlin.

They think they can get Jimbo Fisher