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Feel free to move if needed, but saw that there is a petition to have the mascot changed because the Tiger is a racist symbol. How long until they cave and what are some suggestions we could give them.
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You should read the tiger droppings thread. Let's just say a lot of references to the South Park wheel of fortune episode
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Tiger is not a symbol for blacks or for oppressor whites. Give me a break.
Honestly, the only connection I can even reach for is there was a Tiger in the old folktale Little Black Sambo, which I think must have been of British occupation India origin., and I assume Sambo in the story was really an Asian Indian .There were also trees in it. Also there are Haitian folktales that use tigers as primary characters, but I've always assumed that is because they were derived from African tales.They also have monkeys.. That must prove they're racist.
Oh look, my mailbox is a racist symbol because it's black ( or white, or silver, and therefore not black.) And wait, where's my Indian (Native - American) mailbox?? Discrimination!!!!! While we're at it, maybe we should get rid of some of the German bred dogs like German shepherds and German short haired pointers because they're symbolic of Fascism and the Aryan dream? And what about the Black Eyed Susan flower? Surely it symbolizes and condones violence against women. Rename it immediately. Better yet, hunt them all down and paraquat everyone of them.. Off with their heads.
Honestly, the only connection I can even reach for is there was a Tiger in the old folktale Little Black Sambo, which I think must have been of British occupation India origin., and I assume Sambo in the story was really an Asian Indian .There were also trees in it. Also there are Haitian folktales that use tigers as primary characters, but I've always assumed that is because they were derived from African tales.They also have monkeys.. That must prove they're racist.
Oh look, my mailbox is a racist symbol because it's black ( or white, or silver, and therefore not black.) And wait, where's my Indian (Native - American) mailbox?? Discrimination!!!!! While we're at it, maybe we should get rid of some of the German bred dogs like German shepherds and German short haired pointers because they're symbolic of Fascism and the Aryan dream? And what about the Black Eyed Susan flower? Surely it symbolizes and condones violence against women. Rename it immediately. Better yet, hunt them all down and paraquat everyone of them.. Off with their heads.
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That pisses me off. One of the commenters suggested they go to Grambling instead. Wait they're the Tigers too
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I had never heard that the tiger was a racist symbol.
My vote is for the LSU Kittens and their fight song should be.....
Soft kitty, warm kitty
Little ball of fur
Happy kitty, sleepy kitty
Purr, purr, purr
My vote is for the LSU Kittens and their fight song should be.....
Soft kitty, warm kitty
Little ball of fur
Happy kitty, sleepy kitty
Purr, purr, purr
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A change.org petition, entitled “Change the Racist Mascot of LSU!,” demands that the school take action to dump the tiger mascot because it was named “during the height of Jim Crow South.”
LSU named the tiger as its mascot back in 1895, taking the symbol from one of the state’s hardest fighting civil war battalions known as the “Louisiana Tigers.”
Wheat’s Louisiana Tigers, or the First Louisiana Infantry, became one of the Confederate Army’s most celebrated infantry units and fought in the Eastern Theater from the first days of the war and also under Robert E. Lee until the surrender at Appomattox Court House. It was often employed as the Confederacy’s shock troops, meant to strike fear in its opponents, especially early in the war when Northern forces were so poorly led.
So dumb.
LSU named the tiger as its mascot back in 1895, taking the symbol from one of the state’s hardest fighting civil war battalions known as the “Louisiana Tigers.”
Wheat’s Louisiana Tigers, or the First Louisiana Infantry, became one of the Confederate Army’s most celebrated infantry units and fought in the Eastern Theater from the first days of the war and also under Robert E. Lee until the surrender at Appomattox Court House. It was often employed as the Confederacy’s shock troops, meant to strike fear in its opponents, especially early in the war when Northern forces were so poorly led.
So dumb.
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As mentioned in above post (bradgator 2), the origin of the name "Louisiana Tigers" goes back to the Civil War. The "Louisiana Tigers" were various companies of Confederate soldiers that represented the Bayou State in the Civil War and were known for their hard fighting.
First Football Coach Explains LSU Colors, Nickname
August 01, 2013, 08:00 AM (CT)Updated: September 25, 2013, 01:03 PM (CT)
LSUsports.net
Dr. Charles E. Coates
Dr. Coates' grandson, Charles H. Coates, Jr., of Baton Rouge, forwarded this story to be shared with Tiger fans everywhere. His grandfather served LSU 1893-1939, retiring as Dean of the College of Pure and Applied Science. Coates Hall, located on the quadrangle of the Baton Rouge Campus, bears his name.
From LSU Alumni News, Oct. 1937
How The Tigers Got Their Name
A Bit of Louisiana History is Perpetuated in the Name LSU Football Men Bear
When I first came to the University in 1893, I found to my surprise that there was practically no athletics in the student body: no football, no tennis, and only a very little baseball in the spring. It struck me we ought to have that sort of thing. I had played at Johns Hopkins, where I had received the bachelor’s and the doctor’s degree, though I had never considered myself much of a player. Dr. H.A. Morgan, subsequently president of the University of Tennessee, had played in Canada. Together we undertook to train two teams to play football. We nailed cleats on leather shoes, but we had no uniforms.
Morgan and I did the coaching quite poorly. I taught the boys the Leland flying wedge and the turtle back.
To arouse interest and give the whole thing point, my friend T.L. Bayne of New Orleans, who had been on the Yale team and was known as Nervy Bayne, undertook to get up a team of New Orleans players, composed mostly of ex-college men from Tulane and the Southern Athletic Club.
Our game in New Orleans was made a gala day in the city. As far as I know it was the first game of football played in the city. The game was played some time in November, on November 25, 1893, to be exact.
I knew we had to have some colors so Ruff Pleasant, who was later governor of Louisiana, a couple of other men and I went to Reymond’s store, at that time at the corner of Third and Main streets. We told them we wanted quite a lot of ribbon for colors, but no one knew what our colors were. It happened that the store was stocking ribbon for the coming Carnival season and had a large supply of purple and gold. The green had not yet come in. So we adopted the purple and old gold, bought out the stock, and made it into rosettes and badges. Purple and old gold made a good combination and we have stuck to it ever since. We also had to have college yells so we composed some and adopted others. One of the latter was the frog chorus, popular at Yale. Most of our yells have been superseded by others more modernistic.
When the time came for the game, we went down to the city and met our opponents, most of whom had played football before. They gave us a very good beating, to the intense indignation of many of our local followers. Ruff Pleasant got a small cut on the forehead which bled a little bit and he was borne from the field. Today, of course, he would have been back in five minutes. Fred Lyons, took his place, I believe.
Barring the fact that we were defeated, everybody had a good time and we came home very tired, resolved to do better next year. Morgan and I had also resolved to get a coach for this "next" year, which we did. This was very largely because I had hurt my hand in tackling and had to lay up for a time while Morgan ran down the field, tripped over his sheer ferocity, and sprained his knee. This was the beginning of our football as far as I can remember.
In 1894 we did not play Tulane but we employed A.P. Simmons to coach us. He was a Yale man. I think we paid him $300, which we raised by subscription.
The following year, 1895, we scheduled a game with what was supposed to be the Tulane team, but as there were not enough football men at Tulane they played anybody they could get hold of. We again employed Simmons to coach our team. We won this game.
It was the custom at that time, for some occult reason, to call football teams by the names of vicious animals; the Yale Bulldogs and the Princeton Tigers, for example. This is still the vogue. It struck me that purple and gold looked Tigerish enough and I suggested that we choose “Louisiana Tigers,” all in conference with the boys. The Louisiana Tigers had represented the state in Civil War and had been known for their hard fighting. This name was applied collectively to the New Orleans Zouaves, the Donaldsonville Cannoniers, and to a number of other Louisiana companies sent to Virginia, who seemed to have the faculty of getting into the hardest part of the fighting and staying there, most of them permanently. One company I knew of went in 200 strong; only 28 returned and many of these were wounded.
So "Louisiana Tigers" went into the New Orleans papers and became our permanent possession.
Our team didn’t compare with present-day teams, in skill, ability, or power. But we had a pretty good time and if there was any professionalism involved I never heard of it.
A few years later when Col. David F. Boyd, who had been president of the University from 1865 to 1880 and again from 1884 to 1886, returned to the University, he was rather surprised to find purple and gold as the colors. He told me they were not the colors, that white and blue had been chosen by him many years ago. But purple and gold had by that time established itself and nothing was ever done about it. Colonel "Dave" also liked the name, "Tigers." I think he was one of them himself during the Civil War.
First Football Coach Explains LSU Colors, Nickname
August 01, 2013, 08:00 AM (CT)Updated: September 25, 2013, 01:03 PM (CT)
LSUsports.net
Dr. Charles E. Coates
Dr. Coates' grandson, Charles H. Coates, Jr., of Baton Rouge, forwarded this story to be shared with Tiger fans everywhere. His grandfather served LSU 1893-1939, retiring as Dean of the College of Pure and Applied Science. Coates Hall, located on the quadrangle of the Baton Rouge Campus, bears his name.
From LSU Alumni News, Oct. 1937
How The Tigers Got Their Name
A Bit of Louisiana History is Perpetuated in the Name LSU Football Men Bear
When I first came to the University in 1893, I found to my surprise that there was practically no athletics in the student body: no football, no tennis, and only a very little baseball in the spring. It struck me we ought to have that sort of thing. I had played at Johns Hopkins, where I had received the bachelor’s and the doctor’s degree, though I had never considered myself much of a player. Dr. H.A. Morgan, subsequently president of the University of Tennessee, had played in Canada. Together we undertook to train two teams to play football. We nailed cleats on leather shoes, but we had no uniforms.
Morgan and I did the coaching quite poorly. I taught the boys the Leland flying wedge and the turtle back.
To arouse interest and give the whole thing point, my friend T.L. Bayne of New Orleans, who had been on the Yale team and was known as Nervy Bayne, undertook to get up a team of New Orleans players, composed mostly of ex-college men from Tulane and the Southern Athletic Club.
Our game in New Orleans was made a gala day in the city. As far as I know it was the first game of football played in the city. The game was played some time in November, on November 25, 1893, to be exact.
I knew we had to have some colors so Ruff Pleasant, who was later governor of Louisiana, a couple of other men and I went to Reymond’s store, at that time at the corner of Third and Main streets. We told them we wanted quite a lot of ribbon for colors, but no one knew what our colors were. It happened that the store was stocking ribbon for the coming Carnival season and had a large supply of purple and gold. The green had not yet come in. So we adopted the purple and old gold, bought out the stock, and made it into rosettes and badges. Purple and old gold made a good combination and we have stuck to it ever since. We also had to have college yells so we composed some and adopted others. One of the latter was the frog chorus, popular at Yale. Most of our yells have been superseded by others more modernistic.
When the time came for the game, we went down to the city and met our opponents, most of whom had played football before. They gave us a very good beating, to the intense indignation of many of our local followers. Ruff Pleasant got a small cut on the forehead which bled a little bit and he was borne from the field. Today, of course, he would have been back in five minutes. Fred Lyons, took his place, I believe.
Barring the fact that we were defeated, everybody had a good time and we came home very tired, resolved to do better next year. Morgan and I had also resolved to get a coach for this "next" year, which we did. This was very largely because I had hurt my hand in tackling and had to lay up for a time while Morgan ran down the field, tripped over his sheer ferocity, and sprained his knee. This was the beginning of our football as far as I can remember.
In 1894 we did not play Tulane but we employed A.P. Simmons to coach us. He was a Yale man. I think we paid him $300, which we raised by subscription.
The following year, 1895, we scheduled a game with what was supposed to be the Tulane team, but as there were not enough football men at Tulane they played anybody they could get hold of. We again employed Simmons to coach our team. We won this game.
It was the custom at that time, for some occult reason, to call football teams by the names of vicious animals; the Yale Bulldogs and the Princeton Tigers, for example. This is still the vogue. It struck me that purple and gold looked Tigerish enough and I suggested that we choose “Louisiana Tigers,” all in conference with the boys. The Louisiana Tigers had represented the state in Civil War and had been known for their hard fighting. This name was applied collectively to the New Orleans Zouaves, the Donaldsonville Cannoniers, and to a number of other Louisiana companies sent to Virginia, who seemed to have the faculty of getting into the hardest part of the fighting and staying there, most of them permanently. One company I knew of went in 200 strong; only 28 returned and many of these were wounded.
So "Louisiana Tigers" went into the New Orleans papers and became our permanent possession.
Our team didn’t compare with present-day teams, in skill, ability, or power. But we had a pretty good time and if there was any professionalism involved I never heard of it.
A few years later when Col. David F. Boyd, who had been president of the University from 1865 to 1880 and again from 1884 to 1886, returned to the University, he was rather surprised to find purple and gold as the colors. He told me they were not the colors, that white and blue had been chosen by him many years ago. But purple and gold had by that time established itself and nothing was ever done about it. Colonel "Dave" also liked the name, "Tigers." I think he was one of them himself during the Civil War.
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JFC, the whole damn school and athletics is rooted in evil, confederate slavery, racist hate. I don't think changing the mascot is going to cut it. I'm beginning to think they need to torch the place. I'm disgusted.
