MUST READ: Anonymous players on end of Butters era

[SeabeeGator]

The candor of those interviews man... it’s interviews like those that reaffirm my belief that fans generally know what’s going on - you don’t have to be some locker room insider to know the players perception of a coach or “how things really are”. Both interviews mirrored my thinking almost perfectly.

 

[BMF]

TRANSITION COACH! HE WAS A BRILLIANT TRANSITION COACH!!!

Possibly the dumbest postulate in the history of this board...and that is saying something.

PREACH, BROTHER!!!!!

 

[Durfish]

Just went back and started reading the whole series, and DAMN! The whole article on Grier and then the comments about Callaway are freaking eye opening. I don't see Butters getting another crack at a FBS HC job. And rightly so.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Just went back and started reading the whole series, and DAMN! The whole article on Grier and then the comments about Callaway are freaking eye opening. I don't see Butters getting another crack at a FBS HC job. And rightly so.

Someone hired Zook.and Muschimp, and we hired Mullinz the year after he lost to South Alabama.

 

[Durfish]

Someone hired Zook.and Muschimp, and we hired Mullinz the year after he lost to South Alabama.

Yeah, but none of them were/are as much of an incompetent, favorite-playing, psychotic, insecure buffoon as Butters. The only places Butters deserves to be is on the unemployment line or working for a similarly psychotic/insecure buffoon line, say, Harbaugh.

 

[MJMGator]

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, Butters is the Don Devoe of football. For those too young to remember, Devoe was hired after they ran off Norm Sloan and he damn near ruined an up and coming basketball program. Players revolted, attendance went to hell, etc..
Butters is far and away the worst football coach we’ve had in my lifetime...including every damn interim coach we’ve had.

 

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"Coach McElwain was someone we targeted from the beginning of the search," Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley told the school's official website. "The more we worked through the process and did our due diligence, coupled with our meeting and conversations with him and those around him, it was obvious he is the right person to lead the Florida Gator football program."

"He has a proven track record on the offensive side of the ball, has coached in the SEC, won two national championships and has had success as a head coach," Foley told the school's website. "He has recruited the South and the state of Florida and has spent time coaching at the highest level in the NFL."

"He has an engaging personality and is someone who can connect with a variety of audiences, and he operates with a high level of integrity. I welcome him and his family to The Gator Nation, and I'm looking forward to working alongside him and his staff as they build a championship program both on and off the field."

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/11977425/jim-mcelwain-becomes-florida-gators-coach

 

[oxrageous]

Okay, I've paid for access over there because I really want to read all of this. I'll be sharing some bits of it here, but I want to be respectful of pay material. And in return to insidethegators.com, I will say that articles like this don't come up very often from Gator journalists, so when they actually do their jobs, I think it's nice to support them. Hence, consider signing up over there, at least for a while.

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[oxrageous]

“At Florida you expect to get the best training. Hell, they sell that to you when you are being recruited and then you get here and get the training that we were getting. That's the one thing I shake my head about because that is one thing MAC could have controlled but he didn't care. It isn't like players and other people weren't complaining to him about it.”

 

[Durfish]

Okay, I've paid for access over there because I really want to read all of this. I'll be sharing some bits of it here, but I want to be respectful of pay material. And in return to insidethegators.com, I will say that articles like this don't come up very often from Gator journalists, so when they actually do their jobs, I think it's nice to support them. Hence, consider signing up over there, at least for a while.

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Exactly why I dropped the dime for it today. Solid work.

 

[oxrageous]

This section on Will Grier verifies every damn thing we've speculated on. We were absolutely right.

 

[soflagator]

bc he knew UF would give him two extensions almost immediately and pay him far far more than he is worth, which we did.

I'm not entirely discounting that, but I truly think McElwain was arrogant enough to actually believe he'd do well here. Beyond his obvious coaching deficiencies, I think his biggest issue, which has been echoed by someone I know that works closely with the UAA, is that he had the feeling that by landing the job at UF, he'd finally arrived and been rewarded for all those years as an assistant. Everything from the no socks, to the lazy recruiting, to the way he treated office personnel, even his no care attitude on his teeth, support that. I think this guy genuinely believes he's good at his job, and would just stroll right in and be a celebrity. He's already dropped hints about getting another shot somewhere. Lunacy.

 

[Blacklabgator]

What’s scary is the fact he landed a a job and fat Bert is still unemployed.

 

[BMF]

“At Florida you expect to get the best training. Hell, they sell that to you when you are being recruited and then you get here and get the training that we were getting. That's the one thing I shake my head about because that is one thing MAC could have controlled but he didn't care. It isn't like players and other people weren't complaining to him about it.”

And you KNOW the athletic department knew what was going on. They had to! They've seen Spurrier's S&C program, Zook's, Meyer's, and Muschamp's. And then all of a sudden they're doing yoga and stretch bands? And going to the wire w/ FAU and East Carolina? Then they give out raises and extensions?

AD: "Hey, we want 2 more years of this!! Here's a contract extension! Keep up the good work!"

UN-F'ING-BELIEVABLE!

 

[soflagator]

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, Butters is the Don Devoe of football. For those too young to remember, Devoe was hired after they ran off Norm Sloan and he damn near ruined an up and coming basketball program. Players revolted, attendance went to hell, etc..
Butters is far and away the worst football coach we’ve had in my lifetime...including every damn interim coach we’ve had.

I think my disdain for WM is well documented. And I'v always had him as my worst hire. But between last season, the revelations toward the end of the year, and now this, I'm afraid the lines have crossed. Guess I'll have to spend the weekend completely redoing my Finkle-esque room.

 

[TheDouglas78]

All I know is Foley was so smitten with Mac after interviewing him he would have paid anything to get him. Anything.

The only explanation I can think of at this point is a sexual relationship between the two.

As I've said before McElwain was removed off the board twice to be put back on by Foley.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Okay, I've paid for access over there because I really want to read all of this. I'll be sharing some bits of it here, but I want to be respectful of pay material. And in return to insidethegators.com, I will say that articles like this don't come up very often from Gator journalists, so when they actually do their jobs, I think it's nice to support them. Hence, consider signing up over there, at least for a while.

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Only happens when they are allowed to do so by the organization. Wouldn't see this at this time last year.

 

[GatorJ]

Only happens when they are allowed to do so by the organization. Wouldn't see this at this time last year.

What does that mean?

 

[TheDouglas78]

What does that mean?

Gator reporters are going to trash a coach unless the AAU have given their ok. Just like you knew we were looking when the guy on 850 was talking about replaceing Mac less then 30 minutes after the Tennessee victory.

 

[GatorJ]

Gator reporters are going to trash a coach unless the AAU have given their ok. Just like you knew we were looking when the guy on 850 was talking about replaceing Mac less then 30 minutes after the Tennessee victory.

They do this series every year. Now I think that this one was particularly brutal. But because Mac was Historically bad.

And it wasn’t reporters trashing him. It was players.