Grantham STAYING; assistant coach hires & fires

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I get that. But if the decision was made above him it would almost be the equivalent of Foley not obliging WM with the Pease for Roper move. Year 1 maybe. But it just opens up an excuse for next season, and possibly ‘22. If we said no thanks, this is your baby, I like the move.
 

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I had the same thought. Could be a positive sign if the UAA has lost confidence in Dan and are looking at 21 as an SEC championship or bust year. If that’s the case, why pay Todd’s buyout then pay for a DC for 21 only to fire the entire staff including Danny Boy after he fails to win anything.
 

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Exactly how I took it. This administration isn't putting anymore money in Mullen. Shcit or get off the pot. Atleast I hope this is whats going on
 

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Well, I’m a little more hopeful than you in terms of next year. I’m growing tired of some of his decisions, antics etc, but still hope he can somehow put it together and be successful here. I don’t really want another search and to be staring at a ut level of disaster for now a second decade.

I’m still very much ok with him being held accountable for the TG hire though. I’ve said before that he’ll have to answer for that. It may be as soon as next season.
 

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I think you might be confusing scoring a lot of points as being a good on field coach? I think actually he is a SHYTTY on field/in game coach. Brutally mismanaging the clock TWICE in the biggest game of the year in easy clock management situations shows you are a shytty on field coach. Letting a QB run power 2 plays in a row when your OLine sux and your QB is as mobile as Frankenstein shows you are not good on the field. Calling zero coverage on D and having your DB showing outside leverage, shows you are a shytty on field coach. Game after game after game these things occur. The 9-3 or 8-4 records hide this to most. But every week there are 10-12 obvious situations that are complete head scratchers that make a huge difference. Given our financial shortcomings and our admin lethargy, it is those 10-12 plays each game that a competent HC will ace and put us at a level where we might have a small chance of competing at the very top. Consistently competing at the very top takes total commitment at the very top, which we do not have.
Maybe. I group clock mismanagement with the organizational issues. When you’re an offensive coach you’re inevitably judged by scoring points. And the play calling thing is a non issue. It seems horrible to us because we’re close to the program. We judge after every call. No offensive coordinator calls a perfect game. There’s gonna be head scratching series. It comes with the territory. Pick any offense you want and go back and watch their games. You’ll see a couple drives a game that makes you wonder what the staff was thinking.
 

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Thanks for the explanation. One small aside...

Oh they knew when Stiner was assigned the guy in the slot. Instant TD.
 

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I think you guys are way over thinking all this. Granthem isn't going anywhere, that's clear now. The simplest explanation is the historical one - mullen rarely fires anyone regardless of how bad they are. We now have 2 underlings supposedly gone. Mullen probably thinks that's wholesale change.

All this talk about the AD telling him no to a buyout and making him put up or shut up is nothing more than exotic justifications for granthems continued employment.

The simplest explanation is most often the correct one. It's just dan mullen, that's it.
 

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I think you guys are way over thinking all this. Granthem isn't going anywhere, that's clear now. The simplest explanation is the historical one - mullen rarely fires anyone regardless of how bad they are. We now have 2 underlings supposedly gone. Mullen probably thinks that's wholesale change.

All this talk about the AD telling him no to a buyout and making him put up or shut up is nothing more than exotic justifications for granthems continued employment.

The simplest explanation is most often the correct one. It's just dan mullen, that's it.

I’m not sure that he even fired Gray.
 

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I’m not sure that he even fired Gray.
I'm very confident he didn't. Gray was planning to leave for a while now and will be employed in short order. He wanted out of this disaster and who can blame him. The only person I think was actually terminated was english, and that was UAA driven based on ncaa infractions, not mullens cajones.

I have zero confidence mullen is going to bring in anyone decent either. It's occured to me that very few position coaches or coordinators worth their salt would want to work for him. I sure wouldn't. He's a whiner, an excuse maker, and is soft.
 

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Calling 2 QB powers? No. But calling 2 boneheaded plays? That happens all the time.

I was more perplexed at going for the FG than the actual play calls. Running QB power on 2nd and 3rd suggests we’d go for it on 4th.

But it’s not like you’re biased against Mullen or anything. So it’s crazy of me to expect you to have this take. I’m beginning to lean more to the camp that thinks Mullen’s time here is short. But I don’t pull crap out of my behind. Mullen has had 2 stunts at UF. And both times we’ve improved offensively. So I’m not gonna sit up here and pretend the man can’t coach offense or call a game. It was stupid, sure. But it wasn’t so egregious that it needs to be highlighted. Every call won’t be a good one.
 

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isn't Grantham going to NY with Mullins?
 

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