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I hope he gets the bigger recruiting budget. UF needs to get with the times.
Billy Napier - UF Head Football Coach
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Glad you finally found an arcade where you can play the machines. One man's stool is another man's stepladder!
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All the fear over passing versus running, yards and points, TOP, sideways Mullinz ball, blahblahblah.
Would people rather experience 2006 or 2007? How about 2020? 2006 was painful to watch offensively, but we were ballers on ST and defense. THAT is what has won us championships, not throwing the ball all over the damned field. SOS needed a shutdown D to allow his penchant for throwing the ball all over the field to win a championship. Without it you get our game against 1995 Nebraska. Our most prolific downfield passing attack in 2020 won 8 games. 2007 saw many points and individual awards, yet our defense couldn't stop a high school team. To win a championship in 2008 we had to rely on our defense in the championship game against Bama and in the championship game against OU....our offenses weren't the deciding factors.
I don't give 2 shyts if the coach wants to run the ball, pass the ball, turtle around the ball, whatever. If he can build a championship special teams and defense and give us enough offense to compete for championships every year, sign me up. Worrying about how much we pass or how exciting the offense is over winning is just retarded. We even had a poster here (can't remember whom) state that he would prefer an exciting offense that wins less than 10 games over winning 10 or more games with a boring offense. That is jumping the shark people. Get a grip. If we run a wishbone offense and win games 13-10 and head to the playoffs I will be happy.
Would people rather experience 2006 or 2007? How about 2020? 2006 was painful to watch offensively, but we were ballers on ST and defense. THAT is what has won us championships, not throwing the ball all over the damned field. SOS needed a shutdown D to allow his penchant for throwing the ball all over the field to win a championship. Without it you get our game against 1995 Nebraska. Our most prolific downfield passing attack in 2020 won 8 games. 2007 saw many points and individual awards, yet our defense couldn't stop a high school team. To win a championship in 2008 we had to rely on our defense in the championship game against Bama and in the championship game against OU....our offenses weren't the deciding factors.
I don't give 2 shyts if the coach wants to run the ball, pass the ball, turtle around the ball, whatever. If he can build a championship special teams and defense and give us enough offense to compete for championships every year, sign me up. Worrying about how much we pass or how exciting the offense is over winning is just retarded. We even had a poster here (can't remember whom) state that he would prefer an exciting offense that wins less than 10 games over winning 10 or more games with a boring offense. That is jumping the shark people. Get a grip. If we run a wishbone offense and win games 13-10 and head to the playoffs I will be happy.
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He wouldn't take the job otherwise, tard. I'm 100% sure of that.
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Oh so are you saying you want a Head Football Coach? Besides me and a few others on here, you are barking up the wrong tree here. Quality of play, game management, development of players, understanding situations, etc., all those play second fiddle to offense to the average UF fan.
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Looking at the posts in this thread my barking is aimed appropriately enough.
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Billy Napier is the favorite to be the next Gators head coach. Should he be? - Read and Reaction
You can say a lot about Jim McElwain, but he never won the Mountain West Championship. Dan Mullen never won the SEC at Mississippi State (though that’s an unfair standard).
Bill Napier is about to win his conference for the second time.
Not only that, but Napier has made his team much better than his recruiting numbers and he has improved recruiting at Louisiana significantly over his predecessor.
The McElwain hire should have had red flags from the start based on his recruiting and underlying performance. Those proved out on the field as he struggled recruiting, but also struggled to get his teams to match their recruiting performance (33.7 average FPI with 14.7 average national recruiting rank).
The Mullen hire is much more defensible. He improved the national recruiting profile of Mississippi State and so the thought was he’d be able to do that at Florida too. He also coached at a level that matched his recruiting, which made Mississippi State nationally relevant.
The problem is that even though (at least by FPI) Mullen was able to match his team’s performance to his recruiting ranking at Florida, that recruiting wasn’t at a high enough level to have the highs be championships. And unfortunately, a season like 2021 is what the lows can be like.
But Napier looks different.
He was clearly humbled by his experience at Clemson, getting fired as the offensive coordinator after a 6-7 2010 season. You might be bitter if you were him, as he had Kyle Parker at QB in 2009 and 2010 with the Tigers and new OC Chad Morris got Tajh Boyd in 2011. Of course, Napier also helped recruit Boyd.
But instead of going to a Group of Five school as an offensive coordinator or even a position coach, Napier went to Alabama as an analyst. He then was a position coach at Colorado State, Florida State and Alabama. Those last two stops mean full-time interaction with Jimbo Fisher and Nick Saban, two of only four coaches with championships still coaching today.
He had one year as the offensive coordinator at Arizona State before getting the head job at Louisiana, where he has increased the FPI of the Ragin’ Cajuns from 105 to 44, 36 and 48, including finishing ranked 15th in the AP Poll last season and currently ranking 22nd.
The thing that jumps out to me most about that list is the one year as an analyst. That isn’t the best move from a financial perspective, and I think suggests a coach who understood that he didn’t know everything and that the process of being successful the next time he got a chance would be aided by learning from the best.
And the reason it jumps out to me is because if we were to drill down to exactly why the Mullen era fell apart, I think we’d end up talking about flawed processes.
That means that all of the talk of Napier being a Saban clone is likely misguided. He understood that the best process for his career was to take a step back and learn from Saban. Folks who think like that aren’t clones. They are strategic thinkers who are usually well ahead of their peers when changes need to be made.
And that’s further bolstered by Napier’s decision to turn down an offer from Auburn last year (note: jobs are never offered if they’re turned down). If he learned anything from Saban, it should be that the program you choose has to be in alignment with your principles.
Add to that the stats that I’ve included above and I think Gators fans should be excited should Napier be the guy who ends up stewarding the program heading forward.
And I think they should be bummed if Scott Stricklin allows him to get away.
You can say a lot about Jim McElwain, but he never won the Mountain West Championship. Dan Mullen never won the SEC at Mississippi State (though that’s an unfair standard).
Bill Napier is about to win his conference for the second time.
Not only that, but Napier has made his team much better than his recruiting numbers and he has improved recruiting at Louisiana significantly over his predecessor.
The McElwain hire should have had red flags from the start based on his recruiting and underlying performance. Those proved out on the field as he struggled recruiting, but also struggled to get his teams to match their recruiting performance (33.7 average FPI with 14.7 average national recruiting rank).
The Mullen hire is much more defensible. He improved the national recruiting profile of Mississippi State and so the thought was he’d be able to do that at Florida too. He also coached at a level that matched his recruiting, which made Mississippi State nationally relevant.
The problem is that even though (at least by FPI) Mullen was able to match his team’s performance to his recruiting ranking at Florida, that recruiting wasn’t at a high enough level to have the highs be championships. And unfortunately, a season like 2021 is what the lows can be like.
But Napier looks different.
He was clearly humbled by his experience at Clemson, getting fired as the offensive coordinator after a 6-7 2010 season. You might be bitter if you were him, as he had Kyle Parker at QB in 2009 and 2010 with the Tigers and new OC Chad Morris got Tajh Boyd in 2011. Of course, Napier also helped recruit Boyd.
But instead of going to a Group of Five school as an offensive coordinator or even a position coach, Napier went to Alabama as an analyst. He then was a position coach at Colorado State, Florida State and Alabama. Those last two stops mean full-time interaction with Jimbo Fisher and Nick Saban, two of only four coaches with championships still coaching today.
He had one year as the offensive coordinator at Arizona State before getting the head job at Louisiana, where he has increased the FPI of the Ragin’ Cajuns from 105 to 44, 36 and 48, including finishing ranked 15th in the AP Poll last season and currently ranking 22nd.
The thing that jumps out to me most about that list is the one year as an analyst. That isn’t the best move from a financial perspective, and I think suggests a coach who understood that he didn’t know everything and that the process of being successful the next time he got a chance would be aided by learning from the best.
And the reason it jumps out to me is because if we were to drill down to exactly why the Mullen era fell apart, I think we’d end up talking about flawed processes.
That means that all of the talk of Napier being a Saban clone is likely misguided. He understood that the best process for his career was to take a step back and learn from Saban. Folks who think like that aren’t clones. They are strategic thinkers who are usually well ahead of their peers when changes need to be made.
And that’s further bolstered by Napier’s decision to turn down an offer from Auburn last year (note: jobs are never offered if they’re turned down). If he learned anything from Saban, it should be that the program you choose has to be in alignment with your principles.
Add to that the stats that I’ve included above and I think Gators fans should be excited should Napier be the guy who ends up stewarding the program heading forward.
And I think they should be bummed if Scott Stricklin allows him to get away.
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you're mom skipped right over the P and h and went straight for my D last night
That would be a trick from her grave at Pensacola NAS
But I hear you are a sick one.
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So tell all the posters here who's kids can't get into UF they are bad parents.
Oh but because YOUR kids get in...you are an elite parent....you buy into wokeism for your family success.
That same system that left your pals in Afghanistan.
No You're real special.
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