Sunbelt Billy stinks it up

[oxrageous]

What are you looking forward to?

A defense with no Miller? Kitna, Miller or a freshman at QB?

Next year is highly likely to be pain. But hey, maybe we’ll actually hire a special teams coach eventually?

The defense is going to be significantly better next year, of that I’m sure of. Lot more talent on the line.

Kitna could be great at QB, I’d love to see him get a shot.

The more you rave, the more excited I get.

 

[Gatorbait25]

Look at the recruiting momentum. Look at the perception of the program from high schoolers. It’s night and day from last year. Sucks to lose, but we weren’t playing for anything this year. Recruiting matters significantly more than wins and losses right now.

Again, I’m already excited about next year.

You’re drunk and ranting again, so I’ll just try and stay reasonable here. I’ll sit back and take the downvotes.

I have to be honest . I don’t share your excitement . Perhaps you can explain why you are because this is a rock bottom type of defeat . Losing to Vanderbilt is unacceptable and should not be tolerated.

 

[oxrageous]

I have to be honest . I don’t share your excitement.

The hell you say!



Bait, THE ENTIRE YEAR is rock bottom, that’s what first years almost always are. There’s no excuse for today, but this team isn’t good. If this loss happened in year 2, 3, or 4, then you are talking more about firing everyone.

Focus on recruiting. Lot of positive there and more to come.

 

[MertzJay26]

The defense is going to be significantly better next year, of that I’m sure of. Lot more talent on the line.

Kitna could be great at QB, I’d love to see him get a shot.

The more you rave, the more excited I get.

We’re gonna need to hit big in the portal at LB or it’s gonna be another long year.

We’ve seen Kitna throw 5 passes, most vs Eastern Washington. I guess we’ll hope he’s the next Trask and we get lucky.

For your last statement, I’m never wrong. Not once.

 

[FireFoley]

There is quite a difference in "it sux to lose" and your coaching staff "looks like buffoons on gameday" We all hate to lose, but for some reason had we scored a TD on the last play of today's game, gone for 2, and miraculously made it and chalked up a W, then those who would have felt any different are purely #'s watchers, and don;t see what went into the complete horseshyt show. I would have felt exactly as I do now had we pulled out a W. We had 6 quarters in a row of improvement. But today, yes things will not always go smoothly and the players made mistakes that fall solely on them. But I am not a big believer in allowing coaches to have bad Gamedays let alone EXTREMELY BAD gamedays

 

[Homer J]

Not sure I've ever seen a QB at any level make the wrong read on a zone read as often as AR.

Hopefully sling blade advises him to go pro after the season.

WINNER!
WINNER!

He had several chances in the 1st half and handed the ball off for no gain or losses. Our offense goes with AR.

 

[MertzJay26]

I don’t think anybody could watch the in-game coaching and come away feeling good about the future unless major changes are made. If we’re just hoping he stocks the cupboard with talent, then sure, he’s great.

 

[gatorev12]

Look at the recruiting momentum. Look at the perception of the program from high schoolers. It’s night and day from last year. Sucks to lose, but we weren’t playing for anything this year. Recruiting matters significantly more than wins and losses right now.

Again, I’m already excited about next year.

You’re drunk and ranting again, so I’ll just try and stay reasonable here. I’ll sit back and take the downvotes.

Yea, that works for one season, maybe two. So long as recruits buy-in to the "vision" as opposed to the results on the field.

But let's be clear: the end result is the same when the coach is terrible at coaching.

There is literally zero excuse to lose this game. None. Vandy isn't a good team and every facet of our team played worse this week than compared to the last few weeks. That is on preparation and on coaching.

Congrats: you wanted AR to put up 400 yards passing to prove he could do it. Vs a chitty Vandy defense. As opposed to running the ball and winning the game, as has been our offensive identity for the last several weeks and all year long, really.

When you get outcoached, outplayed, and outhustled by a 4-6 Vandy team with ONE SEC win...you're a terrible coach. No amount of recruiting will fix that. We've got a Ron Zook clone here and will get Zook-esque results.

 

[oxrageous]

I don’t think anybody could watch the in-game coaching and come away feeling good about the future unless major changes are made. If we’re just hoping he stocks the cupboard with talent, then sure, he’s great.

You could be right, in that Billy just sucks as an in-game coach. I think he doesn’t really trust this team at all, on offense or defense.

 

[oxrageous]

Yea, that works for one season, maybe two. So long as recruits buy-in to the "vision" as opposed to the results on the field.

But let's be clear: the end result is the same when the coach is terrible at coaching.

There is literally zero excuse to lose this game. None. Vandy isn't a good team and every facet of our team played worse this week than compared to the last few weeks. That is on preparation and on coaching.

Congrats: you wanted AR to put up 400 yards passing to prove he could do it. Vs a chitty Vandy defense. As opposed to running the ball and winning the game, as has been our offensive identity for the last several weeks and all year long, really.

When you get outcoached, outplayed, and outhustled by a 4-6 Vandy team with ONE SEC win...you're a terrible coach. No amount of recruiting will fix that. We've got a Ron Zook clone here and will get Zook-esque results.

I didn’t read most of this drivel, but the point I made after the A&M game stands - IF AR RUNS, we win out easily.

He went back to not running, and the offense totally stagnated. If he does that again, FSU will slaughter us. He’s not a good enough passer to win games just with his arm.

 

[FireFoley]

You could be right, in that Billy just sucks as an in-game coach. I think he doesn’t really trust this team at all, on offense or defense.

On defense I can understand that and would not quibble. But if he did not trust his offense he would not have his mental midget QB standing around poorly impersonating a terrible pocket passer.

 

[soflagator]

I don’t think anybody could watch the in-game coaching and come away feeling good about the future unless major changes are made. If we’re just hoping he stocks the cupboard with talent, then sure, he’s great.

That runs it’s course too though. Zook’s 2005 class was falling apart, WM’s 14 and 15 classes saw major defections. And with the free transfer rule, there’s no guarantee they stay for the next guy. We may be very likely looking at a worse roster for the next guy, if only based on volume. Likely staring at another 4-5 years before we have a chance to be good.

 

[gatorev12]

I didn’t read most of this drivel, but the point I made after the A&M game stands - IF AR RUNS, we win out easily.

He went back to not running, and the offense totally stagnated. If he does that again, FSU will slaughter us. He’s not a good enough passer to win games just with his arm.

Speaking of drivel...who does AR *NOT* running fall back on...?

The second assistant to the regional equipment manager? Or the head coach that also happens to be our OC...?

 

[GatorScott]

I am still 100% on board. It’s going to be our best recruiting class since 2010. Looking very forward to next year.

Not that there was any excuse for today. The coaches deserve all the crap they are going to get this week. To say they need to end with a win against FSU is an understatement.

Out of curosity and due to fact I know you're not a clown Gator fan who only roots when the winds right, why are you still on board? Future recruiting which clearly surpasses anything Cousin Eddie accomplished? I would agree with you that there's hope for future success, but you and I are both old enough to know that coaching matters, regardless of the players. This has been a substandard offensive play calling year. In all honesty, I'm starting to really believe others who say that AR is not that sharp mentally and cannot comprehend the playbook nor can he handle consistent decision making (i.e look at so many piss poor throws he makes, etc.).

I'm not saying we need to fire Napier, but clearly coaching hasn't worked out this year because I remember the Zook years and even then we didn't struggle like this.

 

[soflagator]

I didn’t read most of this drivel, but the point I made after the A&M game stands - IF AR RUNS, we win out easily.

He went back to not running, and the offense totally stagnated. If he does that again, FSU will slaughter us. He’s not a good enough passer to win games just with his arm.

When he trots off after going 3-and-out because he refused to run the correct version of the play and threw terrible passes instead, isn’t there a guy that has some kind of control of the matter? I’ve seen other teams with one. They usually have headsets. What are those guys called again?

 

[Avenger48c]

This season sucks, but it was always gonna suck. Process oriented coaches don't win their first year. Saban didn't, Smart didn't, and Billy isn't.

Next year is the test, and it's a sharp test. Saban and Smart types get 10+ wins in their second season, their assistants who fail don't. If he's not undefeated going into UGly next year, it's time to move on, because he's not gonna get there. It's as simple as that.

 

[MertzJay26]

That runs it’s course too though. Zook’s 2005 class was falling apart, WM’s 14 and 15 classes saw major defections. And with the free transfer rule, there’s no guarantee they stay for the next guy. We may be very likely looking at a worse roster for the next guy, if only based on volume. Likely staring at another 4-5 years before we have a chance to be good.

Oh I agree lol. It’s great to “stock the cupboard” but with the transfer portal, it means nothing when those same players can just leave.

 

[LaylaGator]

We should have run it down their throats today of all days (momentum, weather, etc.), and instead the game plan was to air it out. Sheer stupidity by the playcaller.

 

[Ironhead]

I don't see how anyone could possibly see a championship caliber coaching staff, given what we've witnessed over this first season.
I expected that team that beat Utah, every week with improvement along the line.
That team was focused, disciplined, ready to play with a pretty good game plan.
Yes, the defense was an issue but, Utah supposedly had a great offense.

We beat Utah then lay an egg against Kentucky, then another egg by barely beating USF.
Then we actually play decent against, what turns out to be a probable playoff team.

The season is lost because we don't have a Championship Quality coach.
Ask yourself this.....

Do you see any signs that Napier is going to run off a 44-9 record in the next 4 years???
Not going to happen people.

A great, championship caliber coach, doesn't stink up the SEC schedule with losses to Vanderbilt and Kentucky.

Where are the innovative game plans that take advantages of the defense and offense if the opposing teams? Where are the inspired performances by the team that wills itself over a superior opponent? Why does this team UNDERPERFORM, TO LESSER OPPONENTS???

I'm still on the train, only because of Recruiting. Well that, and I don't want to see Florida pull the plug on a guy after one damn season.
I'm still on the fence about the next two years, and a Harsin situation here though. It could happen, if Napier doesn't do some self reflection in the off season. The fans and boosters just aren't going to accept another season anything close to this one.

What good will and confidence Billy Napier built up this season, with his platitudes and coach speak, all washed off the chalkboard today.
This one will stink up the offices for quite some time.

 

[Gatorbait25]

Yea, that works for one season, maybe two. So long as recruits buy-in to the "vision" as opposed to the results on the field.

But let's be clear: the end result is the same when the coach is terrible at coaching.

There is literally zero excuse to lose this game. None. Vandy isn't a good team and every facet of our team played worse this week than compared to the last few weeks. That is on preparation and on coaching.

Congrats: you wanted AR to put up 400 yards passing to prove he could do it. Vs a chitty Vandy defense. As opposed to running the ball and winning the game, as has been our offensive identity for the last several weeks and all year long, really.

When you get outcoached, outplayed, and outhustled by a 4-6 Vandy team with ONE SEC win...you're a terrible coach. No amount of recruiting will fix that. We've got a Ron Zook clone here and will get Zook-esque results.

Great post rev. Still I think this is an insult to Ronnie . Remember when we used to make fun of Zook for working at an Ocala bank? Ox even made funny jokes about how Ron would earn an additional $1.50 an hour by doubling as the janitor . This staff is worse than Ron’s staff .