2016 College World Series

[MertzJay26]

Btw Ox, until you can teach your step son to hit with his hands in the right position, I will ignore your baseball opinions.

 

[GMDGator]

Sully=Bobby cox

 

[rogdochar]

How many years did Donovan go with no NC ? Similar elimination prospects.

 

[oxking]

He trusted a future 1st round pick to beat his opponent on that pitch sequence and props to the TT hitter for winning the battle. It was also only the 4th inning which is early in the game where I want my guy attacking every hitter.

You can go back in hindsight and point to every little mistake but fact of the matter is, the hitters are the ones who did not get it done. Whether we need a new hitting coach or not is to be seen. I do know that their approaches sucked it Omaha.

Side note- I think it's pretty common for college coaches to call pitches, I know mine did.

It wasn't hindsight for me. That's the point. I could see the need to put the guy on and even said to my wife we need to pitch around this guy. And that is just one example. That is Sully's thing, choking at every opportunity when management can help win the game. Do you remember how often Barry Bonds was walked? Yes, it was Sully's decision to pitch to the guy and now he's back in Gainesville early again contemplating his navel.

 

[MertzJay26]

It wasn't hindsight for me. That's the point. I could see the need to put the guy on and even said to my wife we need to pitch around this guy. And that is just one example. That is Sully's thing, choking at every opportunity when management can help win the game. Do you remember how often Barry Bonds was walked? Yes, it was Sully's decision to pitch to the guy and now he's back in Gainesville early again contemplating his navel.

Not walking one guy in the 4th inning did not cost us the game. Our lack of hitting is what killed us in both games.

Our staff gave up 4 ERs in 2 games. With aluminum bats, we should have won both. Falls squarely on the hitters. Now if you want to throw some blame on Sully or the hitting coach for not reeling these guys in and changing their approach, that's understandable. Regardless, the players have to get it done when it comes down to it.

 

[cover2]

In retrospect, we not only had a few holes in the lineup through the course of the season, but the lineup as a whole nutted up in the two WS games. What does O'Sullivan need to do better to counteract this? I'd have to start with putting a little more emphasis on recruiting the offensive side, which is probably the biggest knock on him by those who know the college game. To wit, the coach of a top JC program here in the panhandle recently remarked that "he's done a great job with the pitching and usually has a great defensive club, but not having enough guys who you can count on to hit and/or pick the other guys up has kept him from pushing through." I wouldn't disagree with that assessment and hope that it will become a greater focus beginning with the next cycle.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I don't have any problems with the way our pitchers are handled. I also find it humorous that a couple of mistakes executing pitches become a bone of contention (and a reason to bash). The pitching wasn't perfect, but it was more than good enough to win the two games if the team that won 52 this season just hits the ball. To that end, maybe Sully, as been mentioned, needs to work on player mindset a little more? My impression was that for game 1, the players might have thought that all they needed to do was show up. Game 2 they seemed to be real tight. It'll be interesting to see what happens from now til next season. It also wouldn't hurt my feelings if the MLB draft was pushed back a month.

 

[oxrageous]

Not walking one guy in the 4th inning did not cost us the game. Our lack of hitting is what killed us in both games.

Our staff gave up 4 ERs in 2 games. With aluminum bats, we should have won both. Falls squarely on the hitters. Now if you want to throw some blame on Sully or the hitting coach for not reeling these guys in and changing their approach, that's understandable. Regardless, the players have to get it done when it comes down to it.

I'll just bump this thread at this time next year so we can continue this same debate.

 

[MertzJay26]

I'll just bump this thread at this time next year so we can continue this same debate.

 

[Gatorphan]

This kid who shut UF down in game one, Andrew Beckwith, from Coastal Carolina is shutting down the bats of TCU (4-1 in the 9th). I'm pretty sure it's OK for TCU to blame Sully for their loss.

This kind of thing is why none of the four teams left were even a super regional host. TCU was the only 1 seed in their regional but had to go on the road on the supers, all the others were not in the top 16. Omaha is a crazy.

 

[Turk182]

Bummed out but not surprised based on how they played the last 1/4 of the season.

 

[gators4224]

Honestly, we're a damn good program. We're consistently competing, and with a game like baseball with so many different variables we still usually make it to OMAha. The gators remind me of the Tampa Bay rays under Joe Maddon. They were consistently competitive, and made the playoffs. But it always seemed their strength lay in their pitching quality and depth, yet they're hitting was not potent enough to take them to the highest level to win it all. IMO, that's the area that's hurting the gators the most is the lack of potent hitters in the gators lineup and the depth. We always have 2-3 pretty damn good hitters, but that doesn't cut it at Omaha. Just like the rays, we can have all the pitching in the world, but if we're not consistently putting up enough runs that to me is an indicator that we can't win it all.

 

[Gatorphan]

CCU up 1-0 early. I hope they win it.

It sucks that we didn't show up, but the CWS is a great event. I hope to be able to attend it one day.

I get the feeling most of the anti-Sullites haven't watched an inning after UF was eliminated. Those that rarely watched all season.

 

[LagoonGator68]

CCU up 1-0 early. I hope they win it.

It sucks that we didn't show up, but the CWS is a great event. I hope to be able to attend it one day.

I get the feeling most of the anti-Sullites haven't watched an inning after UF was eliminated. Those that rarely watched all season.

Coastal is amazing to watch. Their base running keeps the opponent uptight and for good reason. I think they win it all.

 

[Delg8tor]

CC is just a bunch of good old country boys out there in Omaha having a blast. They are playing with house money and have nothing to lose. I like their chances to take the title.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

I dont really like any of the teams, bc the games have almost all been snoozers. 2-1 victories just aren't real fun to watch.

 

[NVGator]

Arizona's coach is in his first year with their school. Anyone want to guess where he coached last?

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

Nevada.....continuing what Lopez built.

 

[GatorBart]

Nevada.....continuing what Lopez built.

I don't know what Lopez was building the past couple of years - Zona was picked to finish 9th in the Pac-12 this past season (maybe because of the new coach?). Now they're looking like the might be #1, in the country. I'd say the new coach likely had a lot to do with that.
After winning the CWS in 2012, Zona had records of 31-24, 22-33, and 31-24 before Lopez retired last year.

 

[Gatorphan]

Don't kid yourselves. Arizona's pitching is a very talented; as it was on display last night. I'll give some mad props to Johnson for his post season run, but he didn't recruit a single one of them. Even he wins this year, only time will tell if he can consistently get them in and win the CWS.

 

[NVGator]

Don't kid yourselves. Arizona's pitching is a very talented; as it was on display last night. I'll give some mad props to Johnson for his post season run, but he didn't recruit a single one of them. Even he wins this year, only time will tell if he can consistently get them in and win the CWS.

You're right. I'm sure after the current players leave he'll go back to mediocrity like he's done at the other schools he coached.

Following his playing career, Johnson coached for four seasons at Point Loma Nazarene, the final year as head coach. He led the Sea Lions to a #6 national ranking in the NAIA and a division championship before moving to San Diego as an assistant. The Toreros won three West Coast Conference championships and made four appearances in the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship with Johnson on staff.[2] On June 28, 2013, Nevada announced that Johnson would take over as head coach.[3]

In two seasons at Nevada, Johnson guided the Wolf Pack to a 72–42 record. In 2015, Nevada posted a 41–15 record and captured the school’s first-ever Mountain West title with a 22–7 mark in league play. The Wolf Pack was ranked in the top 25 for much of the season and totaled a 13–1 record in series of at least three games. The 41 overall wins ranked second in program history. In 2015 Johnson was named Mountain West Coach of the Year.