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If this headline isn't an understatement I don't know what is....
Veteran Florida offensive line facing ‘last chance to get it right’ with new voice setting the tone
https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-gators-football-offensive-line-john-hevesy-coach
GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Drift far enough toward the back end zone of the Florida practice fields, and John Hevesy’s voice becomes the soundtrack to the spring.
He’s loud, he’s direct and he’s trying to coax a returning group of Gators offensive linemen into a better collective unit than they’ve been at any point these last few years.
As has been clear through spring practice, that’s going to be a process.
“Rome wasn’t built in a day, brother. We got a ways to go. We got a ways to go,” Hevesy, the offensive line coach, said after the first few spring practices. “I think they are buying into it. But it’s just, again, it’s like anything. You need to do it 10,000 times before it’s perfected. So we are on about 300. So we got a ways to go.”
Left tackle Martez Ivey passed on the NFL draft to return for his senior season, while left guard Tyler Jordan and right guard Fred Johnson also are seniors who have been in and out of the starting lineup since their freshman seasons. Junior right tackle Jawaan Taylor has started the last two seasons, and redshirt junior center T.J. McCoy has started since late in the 2016 season.
And maybe at some point Brett Heggie, the starting left guard last fall, will return from the knee injury that ended his encouraging redshirt freshman season and continues to keep him out this spring.
Normally, that kind of experience would be viewed as an obvious asset. But with this group, it just further underscores the questions and doubts about the unit.
For all the experience the offensive line carried into last season — former coach Jim McElwain boldly dubbed the group the strength of the team — Florida ended up ranking 123rd out of 129 FBS teams in sacks allowed (3.36 per game) while getting manhandled up front by its tougher opponents (Michigan, Georgia and Florida State, to name a few).
“For me and like for Fred and for Tyler it is our last chance. Our last chance to get it right, last chance to, you know, do what we came here to do,” Ivey said Friday after the Gators’ first spring scrimmage. “We didn’t come here to go 4-7. We came here to compete for championships and win a championship. I mean, that’s my mindset, that’s their mindset. It should be everybody’s mindset around here.”
But what is going to flip the switch with a group that has endured many of the same struggles for several years now?
“I would say Coach Hevesy. He’s been really big on fundamentals and technique. I’d say just us being fundamentally sound,” McCoy said. “You know, we’ve got a new offense, most of our install is done and now it’s just knowing how to do it, the different techniques. Coach Hevesy’s really big — really big — about technique. In my opinion he’s Coach [Nick] Savage on steroids when it comes to technique. He’s a very intense guy, and he’s really big on us doing the thing right, doing everything right. And just having the attitude and really being the protectors of this offense.”
Savage, of course, is the Gators’ new strength and conditioning coordinator who set the tone for the team during offseason workouts.
Hevesy, meanwhile, has been with Mullen since they worked together at Bowling Green under Urban Meyer. They continued on together to Utah, Florida (for two national championships), Mississippi State and now back to Gainesville.
Mullen believes in Hevesy’s ability to get the most out of his units, and that is his challenge now.
That is why his voice is strained during practice yelling out commands and holding his linemen accountable for mistakes.
During Florida’s open practice for fans and media two Saturdays ago, Hevesy was the loudest coach on the field.
“I’m tired of sacks. Pay attention!” he yelled to his unit, among other things, during live team drills.
Like McCoy said, he’s taking this veteran group all the way back to the basics this spring.
“Fundamentals. Fundamentals. We’ve got a long time to make sure we learn the assignments — everything we talk about is learning what, how and why: What to do, how to do it and why you’re doing it,” Hevesy said.
“My biggest thing with them is discipline. I can’t stand offsides, and we’ve done it too many times. We did it about five times [in practice],” he said after that practice about two weeks ago while speaking with reporters. “That’s just mental discipline and focus on what you have to do. We have to pay attention, we have to be on things, and that takes no talent to listen to the cadence. But there’s enough there to work with. Now it’s just a matter of who is going to step up with all the things we’re working on.”
Florida has some newcomers to the unit with redshirt sophomore Jean DeLance, who sat out last season after transferring from Texas; JUCO addition Noah Banks; freshman early enrollee Chris Bleich; and a couple of more freshman signees on the way this summer.
But so far none have overtaken the incumbents on the first team. Those guys are now on their third offensive line coach in three years, with the hope that Hevesy can be the one to unlock more potential than what the group has collectively exhibited to this point.
Time will tell.
Rome wasn’t built in a day, and more than three years into the process, the Gators’ offensive line remains under construction as well.
“I feel like we needed what happened to us last year,” McCoy said. “We thought it was going to be our year last year and it wasn’t. I believe everybody on this team, especially on the offensive line, we have a bad taste in our mouth and we’re just ready to prove everybody wrong and to prove that we can be the strength of the team.”
Veteran Florida offensive line facing ‘last chance to get it right’ with new voice setting the tone
https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-gators-football-offensive-line-john-hevesy-coach
GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Drift far enough toward the back end zone of the Florida practice fields, and John Hevesy’s voice becomes the soundtrack to the spring.
He’s loud, he’s direct and he’s trying to coax a returning group of Gators offensive linemen into a better collective unit than they’ve been at any point these last few years.
As has been clear through spring practice, that’s going to be a process.
“Rome wasn’t built in a day, brother. We got a ways to go. We got a ways to go,” Hevesy, the offensive line coach, said after the first few spring practices. “I think they are buying into it. But it’s just, again, it’s like anything. You need to do it 10,000 times before it’s perfected. So we are on about 300. So we got a ways to go.”
Left tackle Martez Ivey passed on the NFL draft to return for his senior season, while left guard Tyler Jordan and right guard Fred Johnson also are seniors who have been in and out of the starting lineup since their freshman seasons. Junior right tackle Jawaan Taylor has started the last two seasons, and redshirt junior center T.J. McCoy has started since late in the 2016 season.
And maybe at some point Brett Heggie, the starting left guard last fall, will return from the knee injury that ended his encouraging redshirt freshman season and continues to keep him out this spring.
Normally, that kind of experience would be viewed as an obvious asset. But with this group, it just further underscores the questions and doubts about the unit.
For all the experience the offensive line carried into last season — former coach Jim McElwain boldly dubbed the group the strength of the team — Florida ended up ranking 123rd out of 129 FBS teams in sacks allowed (3.36 per game) while getting manhandled up front by its tougher opponents (Michigan, Georgia and Florida State, to name a few).
“For me and like for Fred and for Tyler it is our last chance. Our last chance to get it right, last chance to, you know, do what we came here to do,” Ivey said Friday after the Gators’ first spring scrimmage. “We didn’t come here to go 4-7. We came here to compete for championships and win a championship. I mean, that’s my mindset, that’s their mindset. It should be everybody’s mindset around here.”
But what is going to flip the switch with a group that has endured many of the same struggles for several years now?
“I would say Coach Hevesy. He’s been really big on fundamentals and technique. I’d say just us being fundamentally sound,” McCoy said. “You know, we’ve got a new offense, most of our install is done and now it’s just knowing how to do it, the different techniques. Coach Hevesy’s really big — really big — about technique. In my opinion he’s Coach [Nick] Savage on steroids when it comes to technique. He’s a very intense guy, and he’s really big on us doing the thing right, doing everything right. And just having the attitude and really being the protectors of this offense.”
Savage, of course, is the Gators’ new strength and conditioning coordinator who set the tone for the team during offseason workouts.
Hevesy, meanwhile, has been with Mullen since they worked together at Bowling Green under Urban Meyer. They continued on together to Utah, Florida (for two national championships), Mississippi State and now back to Gainesville.
Mullen believes in Hevesy’s ability to get the most out of his units, and that is his challenge now.
That is why his voice is strained during practice yelling out commands and holding his linemen accountable for mistakes.
During Florida’s open practice for fans and media two Saturdays ago, Hevesy was the loudest coach on the field.
“I’m tired of sacks. Pay attention!” he yelled to his unit, among other things, during live team drills.
Like McCoy said, he’s taking this veteran group all the way back to the basics this spring.
“Fundamentals. Fundamentals. We’ve got a long time to make sure we learn the assignments — everything we talk about is learning what, how and why: What to do, how to do it and why you’re doing it,” Hevesy said.
“My biggest thing with them is discipline. I can’t stand offsides, and we’ve done it too many times. We did it about five times [in practice],” he said after that practice about two weeks ago while speaking with reporters. “That’s just mental discipline and focus on what you have to do. We have to pay attention, we have to be on things, and that takes no talent to listen to the cadence. But there’s enough there to work with. Now it’s just a matter of who is going to step up with all the things we’re working on.”
Florida has some newcomers to the unit with redshirt sophomore Jean DeLance, who sat out last season after transferring from Texas; JUCO addition Noah Banks; freshman early enrollee Chris Bleich; and a couple of more freshman signees on the way this summer.
But so far none have overtaken the incumbents on the first team. Those guys are now on their third offensive line coach in three years, with the hope that Hevesy can be the one to unlock more potential than what the group has collectively exhibited to this point.
Time will tell.
Rome wasn’t built in a day, and more than three years into the process, the Gators’ offensive line remains under construction as well.
“I feel like we needed what happened to us last year,” McCoy said. “We thought it was going to be our year last year and it wasn’t. I believe everybody on this team, especially on the offensive line, we have a bad taste in our mouth and we’re just ready to prove everybody wrong and to prove that we can be the strength of the team.”
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I am totally onboard with Coach Dan and he has my 100% support (for what it is worth) but seems like this uncertainty at QB is a bad story that just has no ending. It goes on and on and on and.... If we get nothing out of this spring, it would really be nice to be able to say, WE HAVE A QUARTERBACK (finally).
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That’s how I feel about the annual spring OL revival stories and inevitable fall OL disappointment.
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The ONLY thing that matters is the OL. With a decent to good OL, you can put a McElroy, Trash or even Ox back there and hand off to the stable of backs and be ok.
If the OL is terrible again, it doesnt matter if Tom Brady transfers in.
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...yet. Give it time. They’ll come out road grading in the spring game and Bowl will write about the amazing progress.
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I read it more as people are about to lose their jobs. Realistically Ivy needs to be moved to guard regardless. Big Fred......... nice guy hard worker just not talented enough for the SEC.
I think giving them a couple of weeks to prove themselves as the only fair for the guys that have been here but we're going to see some of the new guys, transfers and new signees.
Gawd it such a broken record.
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Not with his coaching staff.
Our current batch of "writers" just write whatever the staff & SID tells them to.
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One would hope and think and in fact I suggested that they make them all second string for the spring. Let's see what they're made of. Will it piss them off and light a fire under their asses or will they pout and transfer. Either way it's a win/win. I'm just sick to death of the lack of effort and talent shown by this unit. Hevesy is right, the constant jumping offsides is directly related to lack of discipline and attention to detail. Something that this line has suffered with for years now. I'm more than over it.
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I saw part of Ricky Bobby last weekend. It occurred to me that Butters reminds me of that fat driver that Ricky Bobby replaced.
His mindset rubbed off on the whole team.
His mindset rubbed off on the whole team.
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Even with all the experience I just dont think this line is talented enough to be one of the top 5 or so lines in the SEC. I hope Mullen can at least turn them into an average SEC line finally as that has eluded them so far. Ivey is the only one physically talented enough to be an elite lineman if he could learn his job mentally.
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Ox?!!
Did you see that picture of the mannequin model of him in the random post-padding thread?
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with Butters you would get the linemen will be our strength. Only to be whipped on a consistent basis against teams like Vandy and KY. I rather hear they have a ways to go because there’s some honesty on that statement. Is Hevesy sandbagging a bit, maybe. I just hope he can get their collective asses in gear. How our line goes our offense goes. You could put Joe Montana behind last years line and he’d look like hot garbage too
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Unless they pull their heads out of their azzes and play real football this year as a cohesive, functioning O-line, these guys will go down in Gator history as one of the most underachieving groups to take the field. Shows you how garbage coaching can destroy a team at its heart. Even with MacTard's idiocy you would think they could get close to learning their positions by osmosis after this long stinking up the field year after year. Here they are as seniors, still playing the same positions they started in and still don't know fundamentals. 'Course, looking at the 10,000' view we have receivers that have no idea how to get separation, QBs that struggle to do anything right, special teams that are anything but... our last coaching staff has to be the worst in Gator history. Welcome aboard Dan.
