Dan Mullen @ Florida...So Far....

[TheDouglas78]

On the last drive but we were down 6 the drive before when they scored on a busted coverage/beautiful play action. He coached exactly like Muschamp would - get a 2 or more possession lead and bleed clock. Its playing not to lose, a Muschamp special.

That said, I said it earlier but I’ll reiterate: I’m not defending Mullen’s game prep or management completely. I’m just throwing the BS flag on the folks who scream about the widening talent gap and who also say that we got significantly outcoached. It can’t be both. Something kept that game close and it wasn’t “heart” or whatever. It was a hyperconservative defensive coach relying on his defense to not F up and it was danger close to biting him in the butt. If our $1.8M DC could’ve found a way to generate one stop, we might not be having this conversation.

Kirby Smart is Muschamp 2.0 which is exactly why the game was close, but for Mullen not to try to even take advantage of that is the problem. No one is saying their isn't a talent gap, but the talent gap wasn't the cause for this loss as much as the coaching. There is a difference between how the game was played in 2018 where Mullen coached better than Smart (in my opinion) but depth took over and we had no answer. And how the game in 2019 played out.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

. Once completed, Gators will have the most up-to-date facilities in the country..

 

[oxrageous]

By the time the facilities are completed, we'll still be at least 10 years behind everyone else. I guess that's better than being 25 years behind.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I. Our top 22 (starters) may not have the number 'stars' after their names but they are close talent wise
?

Youre stoned. We have maybe 5 players who would play for them.

 

[SeabeeGator]

Kirby Smart is Muschamp 2.0 which is exactly why the game was close, but for Mullen not to try to even take advantage of that is the problem. No one is saying their isn't a talent gap, but the talent gap wasn't the cause for this loss as much as the coaching. There is a difference between how the game was played in 2018 where Mullen coached better than Smart (in my opinion) but depth took over and we had no answer. And how the game in 2019 played out.

Our completely out-talented front 7 on the defense was exactly the issue. We couldn’t break their OL because it was too good and their qb sat back their comfortably converting 3rd downs all game long. Conversely, their front 7 completely outclassed our OL and stopped us in 3rd down (2 for 9, right)? Even those stats out and we win, I think. And it was pure talent.

I do agree that Mullen coaches better last year and talent decided it. Restarted this whole discussion because I don’t agree with the notion that Smart showed he was some superior coach. And realistically, he’s got a huge staff compared to Mullen to aid with game prep. Doesn’t explain the wristbands (embarrassing) but other, smaller details.

 

[SeabeeGator]

Youre stoned. We have maybe 5 players who would play for them.

That’s called “narrative fitting”.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

That’s called “narrative fitting”.

My narrative is that neither our team talent or coaching talent is close to being good.

show me an objective measure that says we've got top talent.

if you can't look at the players on our defense in particular and basically every position and see their terrible flaws, the reason they weren't taken by elite teams, then you really don't know much football at all.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Our completely out-talented front 7 on the defense was exactly the issue. We couldn’t break their OL because it was too good and their qb sat back their comfortably converting 3rd downs all game long. Conversely, their front 7 completely outclassed our OL and stopped us in 3rd down (2 for 9, right)? Even those stats out and we win, I think. And it was pure talent.

I do agree that Mullen coaches better last year and talent decided it. Restarted this whole discussion because I don’t agree with the notion that Smart showed he was some superior coach. And realistically, he’s got a huge staff compared to Mullen to aid with game prep. Doesn’t explain the wristbands (embarrassing) but other, smaller details.

Did you feel better about our current staff after last years game or this years game? Their in my opinion lies the real problem.

 

[SeabeeGator]

Did you feel better about our current staff after last years game or this years game? Their in my opinion lies the real problem.

Perception didn’t change. Feel like there’s deadweight and talent - neither of which recruits well. I don’t think our HC will cut the fat unless it’s cut for him. I also don’t think he’ll bring in a different opinion for the offense to add some wrinkles, which would be nice. Finally, I think he’s damned close to being there but he doesn’t have the killer instinct, yet. Hope it comes along but history says it won’t.

 

[jdh5484]

Smart coached not to lose. Mullen coached not to lose big.

UGa players executed Smarts plan. UFs players executed Mullens plan.

Smarts plan worked.

Smarts plan was a Muschamp plan.

And like we've said many times (re Muschamp at UF) : Never has a coach done so little with so much.

 

[aka]

talking to yourself again old man?

Sometimes it's the only way to carry on an intelligent conversation here.

 

[oxrageous]

Sometimes it's the only way to carry on an intelligent conversation here.

You've been looking down your nose at us a lot lately, something you never used to do. It's like you started dating an uptown girl or something. Come on back down and join us, postman.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Will Miles (again) said that of the 30 top 150 players in the UF/UGAy game 28 were dawgs. You just ain’t winning against those odds.

 

[SeabeeGator]

Will Miles (again) said that of the 30 top 150 players in the UF/UGAy game 28 were dawgs. You just ain’t winning against those odds.

And I bet every OL and DL (maybe even LB) for the dawgs is within that 28. It’s still a line of scrimmage conference and they’re clearly superior to us there.

 

[aka]

You've been looking down your nose at us a lot lately, something you never used to do. It's like you started dating an uptown girl or something. Come on back down and join us, postman.

That was intended to be funny, but you took it seriously. Hmm...maybe it's not me.

 

[aka]

I even let him slide on the "old man" comment.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

And I bet every OL and DL (maybe even LB) for the dawgs is within that 28. It’s still a line of scrimmage conference and they’re clearly superior to us there.

Ole Dorky Dan dont have to croot bc he is a 3 star whisperer.

'Cept he cant win vs Ugly and couldnt win at Cowbell bc he didnt have enough talent.

It is simple. Got it?

 

[78]

My narrative is that neither our team talent or coaching talent is close to being good.

18-5 says you are entirely wet.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

18-5 says you are entirely wet.

What was Butters record..... what would it be with Willie?

 

[78]

What was Butters record..... what would it be with WiLLLLLLLie?

The point is, who was available in 2017 who would have bettered that mark?