Will Grier transferring, free to go to ANY school

LagoonGator68 · Dec 19, 2015

MatthewM. said:
That's weird I always thought his brother was the biggest pussy in the family.

Pussy is the biggest problem with the entire family.

oxking · Dec 19, 2015

NVGator said:
BTW... Didn't Mac just announce this week the Grier would be in class in January? And now apparently this meeting was last week? Who's reporting wrong on what?

really.

alcoholica · Dec 19, 2015

The cocaine rumor is news to me, but I certainly trust you guys. Sounds like Mac may have said the Grier would sit out the year if the illegal drug aspect is right, or put a lot of qualifiers. No wonder he was trying to get 3qbs in this class

oxking · Dec 19, 2015

Captain Sasquatch said:
I would put money on that scenario right now.

As dumb as he's been, he's too smart to play QB for the Chump Slump. I can't see it.

Ancient Reptile · Dec 19, 2015

cover2 said:
Unless he's learned a helluva lot at light speed these last few days, I don't see him ever doing as good or better than SOS. I think USCe, because of their history and tradition as much as anything, were down to about their 4th option and had to settle. Muschamp can probably build a competitive D but what can be accomplished there offensively remains to be seen. He'll have to be able to recruit outside of SC, I think, in order to give him the opportunity to do anything to make them relevant. Again, if this is to happen, he has to be able to do something as a HC that he couldn't do at UF...get out of his own way! We'll see.

Thanks.

oxking · Dec 19, 2015

bradgator2 said:
Can we find out which PED it was now? I'm just curious what substance essentially ****ed us over.

really. we should have already been informed. what's the big secret.

oxking · Dec 19, 2015

alcoholica said:
The cocaine rumor is news to me, but I certainly trust you guys. Sounds like Mac may have said the Grier would sit out the year if the illegal drug aspect is right, or put a lot of qualifiers. No wonder he was trying to get 3qbs in this class

I haven't heard about the dope. However, Hardin does kick like he's doped out. If dope is involved, maybe Mac suggested it might be better for him to transfer.

Gatorphan · Dec 19, 2015

oxking said:
I haven't heard about the dope. However, Hardin does kick like he's doped out. If dope is involved, maybe Mac suggested it might be better for him to transfer.

I've heard it about Hardin, specifically cocaine, from a few sources, and Grier lives with the guy. Not a good sign.

ThreatMatrix · Dec 19, 2015

Trying to make sense out of this situation makes my head spin.

Best case scenario for Grier is play JC for a year then get drafted and pull a backup QB salary for a few years while he matures?

Was there really a QB competition at the beginning of the season? As we all NOW know we only had two QBs on the roster who could play. Mac had to keep Treon on board and motivate Grier. Grier to our eyes is head and shoulders (pun intended) more talented than Harris. Did Mac know something about Grier that we don't know? Grier looked great but I was always in fear that he would turn in to an interception machine. Grier never really faced competition that knew our/his tendencies. I'm only saying that to remind everybody that Grier wasn't a 100% known quantity. Would he be able to bulk up w/o steroids? Would he be able to take the pounding? Hell, Dad might just wanted to get Will out of the SEC to someplace safe.

Why would Grier not be in the plans for next season? Doesn't make any sense. Certainly doesn't make any sense to say that out loud. Mac said he never again wants to be in the situation he was in this year. Certainly he would do everything to keep Grier on board just like he kept Harris on board. Why telegraph intentions? BTW I'm one who believes that the QB most likely to win is the one who is going to start and given all we know Grier would be the best QB available mid-season.

The staff met with the Grier family during the Eason courtship to keep Grier on board . Why, now that we aren't getting Eason, would the staff send the message that Grier is "not in the plans" for next season?

Let's say that the Grier's "sensed" that Will wasn't in the plans. That means that they must have sensed that the staff is really, really high on Del Rio. That's a good thing.

And Grier transferring because of a "drug" problem and was given a straighten up and fly right ultimatum is insane. Basically he and his dad would be admitting he has a problem but not willing to do anything about it. And to do what? Transfer to another school where cocaine use makes you a better player. I know what you are thinking. Miami. But Richt is there now.

Will definitely suffered from 5*itis. A father who is too involved and a media hungry family. The Kardashians of college football. Look for a sex tape in the future.

Blonde Gator · Dec 19, 2015

cover2 said:
Well said, Blondie. Your first sentence sums up my feelings. I think, unfortunately, that we'll start seeing more and more of this type situation with where we are with transitioning from HS to college and possibly to the pro ranks, given that there is a growing population of agent-parents out there who prioritize team and any loyalty thereto much lower than the ambition of scholarships and a payday. I guess it is the way of the world nowadays and I'm long of tooth (and think and believe as such), but I think that not only is it a selfish and sh!tty way to do business, but it will ultimately hurt football (and other sports) as well as the individuals, not to mention the team transferred from.

To further state my opinion on such mercenary behavior (I avoided a comparison to wh0res), much of the responsibility for it falls on the parents and their unbridled desires to aggressively manage their children's careers. I used to laugh when I would see these parents getting their beginning in the pee wee leagues. Then I realized that the ones who didn't ultimately turn their kids off to particular sports only grew in intensity and selfishness, becoming a coach's worst nightmare. I understand the passion they have for their children, having had c2 Jr. go through the pee wees to MS and HS and finally into college. I wanted him to excel, but more importantly to learn teamwork, reliability, and leadership. Having coached for a few years prior, I knew that I couldn't become his agent and do him good service. Hell, I didn't know how good he would be at an early age I and I knew that would be answered by him based on his desires, likes, and willingness to work. He eventually became a QB and started for his HS (a very small 2A HS) his last two years. He was decent, had a good arm, could process things pretty quickly, and learned to read route progressions. But he didn't grow a whole lot and was small (5'9" 165 lbs) and had no suitors from the small college ranks. I hoped he might get a chance to play on but I didn't die when he didn't and realized that even though football was over for him, he learned a lot of things that will help him to succeed as an adult. He didn't die either, though he was disappointed. What he did do was find a place to play baseball at a small college and is happy with that opportunity. Thank God I had enough sense and a wife that helped keep me grounded not to push too hard. I'm far from a model, but I certainly wish that Will Grier and most likely his dad had a little better perspective. I wish him well but the good he did while at UF will forever be tainted by what will be viewed by many as a lack of personal responsibility for his mistake(s) and little loyalty beyond what he could get out of his time on the team.

I agree with Lboy, but as Benji said later in the thread, it might not have made any difference. Still, with an EE in play, it would have been nice for this decision to have come a little earlier, for arguments sake if nothing else. Here's hoping that whoever we wind up with in the QB group, they are able to perform and lead at a higher level than what we got the latter part of the season. Will Grier, I hope that what will be is better for you wherever you land than what was as a Gator, and make no mistake, you were off to a great start. I personally do not think you made a good decision, but it was yours to make.

Shocking! You and I agree totally on this. I am totally unsurprised that you viewed your son's football career as a character building lesson, rather than a means to an end.

Perhaps there's something wrong with recruiting in general. These "Dance-Mom" parents, as I described them earlier, drive me nuts. I know recruiting is a courtship, and although Grier wasn't Mac's, perhaps there needs to be some serious thought going forward, as to clearly defining exactly what UF expectations are, for both the student-athlete AND the parents, before the letter is inked. That way, if the parents pull this sort of bone-headed maneuver, UF can say "sorry, you didn't live up to our agreement, so you get NO help from us". I'd prefer that to "we'll do whatever we can to ensure a new start". Grier's downfall began, IMO, with his parents' willingness to allow him to showboat, and by NOT teaching him that CHEATING is ALWAYS unacceptable.

I can think of so many examples of elite athletes crashing & burning due to undue parental pressure. Jennifer Capriati comes to mind. Perhaps Mac should show the recruit/parents a short bio of that sad tale of woe, over-reaching parents throwing their kid into a pressure cooker. I think Grier is probably in the same boat....he's well on his way to landing on the rocks and shoals, and his father has enabled it. He's the real villain in this tale of woe.

Gatorphan · Dec 19, 2015

threatmatrix said:
And Grier transferring because of a "drug" problem and was given a straighten up and fly right ultimatum is insane. Basically he and his dad would be admitting he has a problem but not willing to do anything about it. And to do what? Transfer to another school where cocaine use makes you a better player. I know what you are thinking. Miami. But Richt is there now.

I agree with all that was written, except this. If Grier has a drug or party problem, a change of campus could easily get him away from the people facilitating the situation.

bayou gator · Dec 19, 2015

EDIT: I removed this rant. Over the line.

-Ox

ThreatMatrix · Dec 19, 2015

Gatorphan said:
I agree with all that was written, except this. If Grier has a drug or party problem, a change of campus could easily get him away from the people facilitating the situation.

Very good point.

aka · Dec 19, 2015

Will Grier..the gift that keeps on giving. Yep, not surprised.

Born2beagator · Dec 19, 2015

Goodbye you little wimp. I wish you a hard landing in an obscure school. You deserve it you coward.

Homer J · Dec 19, 2015

Harris will transfer before switching positions? Bye! The cool thing is we have another scholarship.

As for Grier, he is going the routre of Dorial Beckem Green (Mizzou WR). His D1 college career is over. He will transfer and go pro next year.

GatorTAG · Dec 19, 2015

For some reason I thought Grier roomed with Townsend. Hence why Townsend's dad was his attorney.

aka · Dec 19, 2015

Like a said, a non-issue.

78 · Dec 19, 2015

Curious to know if any of you are just a little bit over college athletes behaving like spoiled little brats.

ThreatMatrix · Dec 19, 2015

Gatorphan said:
I agree with all that was written, except this. If Grier has a drug or party problem, a change of campus could easily get him away from the people facilitating the situation.

Hmm... On second thought, that probably makes the most sense. Grier's transfer appears pointless. But if he does have a problem it makes sense that his dad would want hm closer to home. Gonna be interesting to see where he ends up.

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