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This post is so damning it deserves its own thread. Divits, please copy and paste this to a new thread.
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If you can't field the best athletes, at least be prepared with a better scheme, and if you can't out-scheme the opponent, at least have your team ready to play hard.
It's six years since Meyer left and we still aren't accomplishing any of these. We have become the Japan of college football.
It's six years since Meyer left and we still aren't accomplishing any of these. We have become the Japan of college football.
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What I'm reading and hearing increasingly takes me back to my thoughts toward the end of the season last year. At 10 wins and the SEC East crown and a trip to ATL in our back pocket, I thought we had a good chance against F$U at home, despite our QB issues. After that debacle, I knew we wouldn't win again that season. As pissed off and worried as I and others were after the bowl game, I don't know that we fully realized that it was a harbinger of what was to come this season. Seemingly every game has looked like we were similarly prepared and invested. We did, however, look poised to break out after the first half against UT, even though they gave us as much or more than we took from them.
We are seeing, as many are observing and stating (I see you Divits), that this team lacks a sense of urgency, sufficient enthusiasm, leadership, consistency of effort and execution, and adequate preparation...from the head coach on down. Muschamp's tenure made us impatient and longing for a return to something way beyond just winning more than we lose. Mac whetted our appetites early last season, but it is safe to say that the shine is gone and his glib and soft demeanor that he projects has spread to his team. Instead of "I like this team, we hurt after Tennessee, we're glad to get a win against Vandy, they took it to us, we're working on things," and on and on, I'm ready to hear William Holden yell "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" and then project that onto the players and his staff. But I believe now that he's probably not going to do that. You can't walk on eggshells in this game. You can rub 'em a little bit after a tough loss, but you should be knee deep in their @sses after lackluster wins. In a sense, they hold you hostage when you like 'em too much and don't love 'em hard enough and I'm afraid that's where we are. Things can always change, but I'm pretty skeptical going into our third conference game. We've played thus far like a car with trash in the gas...surge and sputter with more sputtering. I'm holding out for some improvements, but I'm not betting the farm on it. I'm pulling for a win each week as well, but I'm tired of seeing what I've seen for the last 7+ seasons. I'm ready to be out of the wilderness.
We are seeing, as many are observing and stating (I see you Divits), that this team lacks a sense of urgency, sufficient enthusiasm, leadership, consistency of effort and execution, and adequate preparation...from the head coach on down. Muschamp's tenure made us impatient and longing for a return to something way beyond just winning more than we lose. Mac whetted our appetites early last season, but it is safe to say that the shine is gone and his glib and soft demeanor that he projects has spread to his team. Instead of "I like this team, we hurt after Tennessee, we're glad to get a win against Vandy, they took it to us, we're working on things," and on and on, I'm ready to hear William Holden yell "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" and then project that onto the players and his staff. But I believe now that he's probably not going to do that. You can't walk on eggshells in this game. You can rub 'em a little bit after a tough loss, but you should be knee deep in their @sses after lackluster wins. In a sense, they hold you hostage when you like 'em too much and don't love 'em hard enough and I'm afraid that's where we are. Things can always change, but I'm pretty skeptical going into our third conference game. We've played thus far like a car with trash in the gas...surge and sputter with more sputtering. I'm holding out for some improvements, but I'm not betting the farm on it. I'm pulling for a win each week as well, but I'm tired of seeing what I've seen for the last 7+ seasons. I'm ready to be out of the wilderness.
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oxking sent me an email this morning with his thoughts. Figured I'd share it:
Unless I couldn't find it, you didn't podcast that game yesterday. You are a very smart fellow but I've always known that.
I think Mac's detractors have him pegged. I think he is a nice guy -- Old Hee Haw is a perfect nickname for him-- but he's not overly bright. A mediocre recruiter at best and has shown me nothing as a motivator and coach in the last two games, at least.
Compare him to Meyer who just keeps beating the crap out of all comers, rolling over all the also rans and directional schools. And doing it with a whole new team, last years crop playing in the league. He will win it all again this year. I wouldn't want to come anywhere near him in the playoffs.
Florida, on the other hand, is horrible. The coaching has been atrocious and old Hee Haw, as mentioned, has certainly shown me nothing in the last two games. I can see now why that mediocre Del Rio had Applebee (I never remember how to spell his name) on the bench. He is a dreadful passer for the most part. He can't see his receivers, remember Callaway standing wide open about 10 feet in front of him and he throws it into the cheap seats. Hells, bells, even the 5'6" Treon would have seen him. He probably would have run it anyway though . And then he fumbles the snap for chrissake. What a doofus. He seems to be a very good guy if you listen to him but the world is full of good guys that can't pass or play QB.
The truth is, Mac should have been forward looking and playing one of the Frosh QBs as we've often said. I'll bet you if Mac was coaching at Georgia, Eason would be sitting on the bench behind their version of Appleby. No, I'm now positive, Mac is not very smart. Nice guy but a little slow on the up take.
The teams got dominated on both sides of the line of scrimmage by a hapless Commodore team that literally cannot get out of their own way. That LSU team will run those 2nd string backs down our throat in front of God and everybody.
Unless I couldn't find it, you didn't podcast that game yesterday. You are a very smart fellow but I've always known that.
I think Mac's detractors have him pegged. I think he is a nice guy -- Old Hee Haw is a perfect nickname for him-- but he's not overly bright. A mediocre recruiter at best and has shown me nothing as a motivator and coach in the last two games, at least.
Compare him to Meyer who just keeps beating the crap out of all comers, rolling over all the also rans and directional schools. And doing it with a whole new team, last years crop playing in the league. He will win it all again this year. I wouldn't want to come anywhere near him in the playoffs.
Florida, on the other hand, is horrible. The coaching has been atrocious and old Hee Haw, as mentioned, has certainly shown me nothing in the last two games. I can see now why that mediocre Del Rio had Applebee (I never remember how to spell his name) on the bench. He is a dreadful passer for the most part. He can't see his receivers, remember Callaway standing wide open about 10 feet in front of him and he throws it into the cheap seats. Hells, bells, even the 5'6" Treon would have seen him. He probably would have run it anyway though . And then he fumbles the snap for chrissake. What a doofus. He seems to be a very good guy if you listen to him but the world is full of good guys that can't pass or play QB.
The truth is, Mac should have been forward looking and playing one of the Frosh QBs as we've often said. I'll bet you if Mac was coaching at Georgia, Eason would be sitting on the bench behind their version of Appleby. No, I'm now positive, Mac is not very smart. Nice guy but a little slow on the up take.
The teams got dominated on both sides of the line of scrimmage by a hapless Commodore team that literally cannot get out of their own way. That LSU team will run those 2nd string backs down our throat in front of God and everybody.
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C2, Winner winner chicken dinner.
Ox, remember the intensity of UM first couple years and the articles on "injured players" who said they couldn't practice, being put in the pit lifting chunks of concrete. That drive and intensity is what we are missing. Urbsalso lost that after the titles and meds...
Ox, remember the intensity of UM first couple years and the articles on "injured players" who said they couldn't practice, being put in the pit lifting chunks of concrete. That drive and intensity is what we are missing. Urbsalso lost that after the titles and meds...
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Obviously Urbs lost it after 5 years, but he is an absolute master at building a program. Guys like Mac aren't even in the same league (but few are, to be fair). Meyer's focus on things like special teams and rivalry games are second to none. His success is no accident.
My dad (in the post I showed earlier) is picking OSU to win it all again. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
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It's all about persuasiveness. How well can you sell the product to recruits and how well can you motivate the players once they arrive? Meyer has a larger-than-life persona when it came to persuasiveness. Mac comes across with all the power of a $10-an-hour cashier at Dillards.
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It seems like our coaching staff is teaching players to be conservative and try to not make mistakes. Have you noticed that Callaway and Martez Ivey appear to have regressed from their play of last year? I am not going to blame the fans or the players. I guess that leaves the coaching staff. I'm not going to blame the assistant coaches. It all comes from the top. At this point, I'm not sure Mac deserves another year. Can't wait for November 1. I'm afraid Fooley is going to give Mac a 10-year extension as a going away present.
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This is where I'm at...Mac hasn't been able to outscheme the better teams. Treon took all the blame for the collapse. I blamed Mac and his inability to create a scheme to Treon's strengths. Derek Mason said it doesn;t matter who plays QB because we run the same plays no matter who is QB. That's freaking stupid. It's stubborn and will ultimately be Mac's downfall(that and recruiting). What great coach doesn't scheme around the strengths of their players?
It isn't one loss and fire the coaches. It's 19 games and fire the coaches.
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The whole Kit and Caboodle.
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Well Cover, you put it exactly spot on as you always do. And let me say it didn't look that much different sitting on row 37 behind the bench than your view from New Mexico. Just a few things I took away from this game....
1. First of all I will preface this with its all on Mac. Nuss' inability to call a great game is on him too. AA appeared to be lost at times and I am not sure if Nuss' playcalling is part of the apprehension or not. But what totally sent me over the edge was the last series on 3rd and 5 and run a stupid a run play up the middle. Vandy knew and we all knew it. There was no sense of urgency to try and get the first down. Also the debacle on the fumble prior to that drive. Slow down, get lined up, run some clock and punch it in. In addition the lack of urgency right before the half. Slow pace and no hurry up with the clock running down. I am on the train that Nuss needs to go and know why Saban and Meatchicken ran him off.
2. The offense to me ran better with Perrine and does so with LDR. When AA was under center we seemed to run the ball better with Perrine. Play action was there. I hate this shotgun, spread, read option look with a QB that doesn't run. When AA took off and ran, we got yardage maybe once, twice. When we hand off with the ball 5 yards deep in the backfield we are not helping our OL that needs all the help it can get. I think LDR is able to handle this offense better. Better reads, passes, etc. Seems more efficient and hopefully he's back vs. LSU.
3. Have to question Coach Side Hat on hip preparation for Vandy. With a running team that cannot pass for shyt, we are playing 3-4 down lineman and let Webb gash us for yardage. We should have crowded the line with 7-8 and shut him down. With LSU coming in it should be load up to stop a run heavy offense and dare them to throw.
Overall just a very un-inspired team yesterday. It is a hangover? Is it coaching? Is it players attitudes? I think some of all three. This team is well capable of playing better than what we've seen the last two weeks. I am making the trip to Florida next week for the LSU game. I hope that Mac has a sense of urgency for better play. I know he realizes it. Now he has to show he's capable of coaching them up to do so.
1. First of all I will preface this with its all on Mac. Nuss' inability to call a great game is on him too. AA appeared to be lost at times and I am not sure if Nuss' playcalling is part of the apprehension or not. But what totally sent me over the edge was the last series on 3rd and 5 and run a stupid a run play up the middle. Vandy knew and we all knew it. There was no sense of urgency to try and get the first down. Also the debacle on the fumble prior to that drive. Slow down, get lined up, run some clock and punch it in. In addition the lack of urgency right before the half. Slow pace and no hurry up with the clock running down. I am on the train that Nuss needs to go and know why Saban and Meatchicken ran him off.
2. The offense to me ran better with Perrine and does so with LDR. When AA was under center we seemed to run the ball better with Perrine. Play action was there. I hate this shotgun, spread, read option look with a QB that doesn't run. When AA took off and ran, we got yardage maybe once, twice. When we hand off with the ball 5 yards deep in the backfield we are not helping our OL that needs all the help it can get. I think LDR is able to handle this offense better. Better reads, passes, etc. Seems more efficient and hopefully he's back vs. LSU.
3. Have to question Coach Side Hat on hip preparation for Vandy. With a running team that cannot pass for shyt, we are playing 3-4 down lineman and let Webb gash us for yardage. We should have crowded the line with 7-8 and shut him down. With LSU coming in it should be load up to stop a run heavy offense and dare them to throw.
Overall just a very un-inspired team yesterday. It is a hangover? Is it coaching? Is it players attitudes? I think some of all three. This team is well capable of playing better than what we've seen the last two weeks. I am making the trip to Florida next week for the LSU game. I hope that Mac has a sense of urgency for better play. I know he realizes it. Now he has to show he's capable of coaching them up to do so.
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I think this kind of sums up what I have been saying since last year. I realize I watch and critique games differently than most, but this just is another version of how poor Mac is at game management. Yes I know we had QB issues last year, but Mac did nothing to help or try and help. Nope this is my system and I won;t change regardless of the players I have. I have been calling for Mac to isolate a RB on a LB on a pass route. Have we seen that yet? NO! And last nite how many times did Petrino isolate a RB on a LB? A LOT! And it netted 8+ yards everytime. Granted you have to honor the QB run with UofL, but clearing the zones and isolating that RB on a LB is so easy and almost unstoppable. It has taken Mac 5 games to finally explore the middle of the field with a TE. How can he not see that Ivey stinks as a guard? His body is that of a tackle and he belongs at RT. Heck, Taylor has more of a guards body for the Mac system. If you want to be a power run team, you need road grading Guards, not finesse guards. Ivey is light footed and finesse. I do not dislike the offensive system per se, and most teams run the same types of plays, but we just happen to look inept at it. That is coaching. I thought he was going to be a much better play caller from a sequencing perspective, but I am not convinced. Takes way too long to make adjustments and he does not see risk/reward very well on many of his play calls.
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Agree with just about everything in original post.
I think we are better with LDR. AA is a serviceable backup. I'd like to see Franks get some snaps. Forget redshirting him. He's not likely the long term answer so no need to save him.
I would like to get more touches for Cyontai Lewis. He can't block but if he is going to play I think he can soften the middle and can be more of a playmaker despite the occasional drop.
Need to utilize Cleveland and Swain more. Too dependent on Calloway. Powell has tuned into more of a possession receiver. I thought he was suppose to be a playmaker?
Scarlett is the man. Give him the damn ball.
OLine is a disaster.
I think we are better with LDR. AA is a serviceable backup. I'd like to see Franks get some snaps. Forget redshirting him. He's not likely the long term answer so no need to save him.
I would like to get more touches for Cyontai Lewis. He can't block but if he is going to play I think he can soften the middle and can be more of a playmaker despite the occasional drop.
Need to utilize Cleveland and Swain more. Too dependent on Calloway. Powell has tuned into more of a possession receiver. I thought he was suppose to be a playmaker?
Scarlett is the man. Give him the damn ball.
OLine is a disaster.
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I'm sorry, I know you're covering a lot here but this was the most piss poor job of tackling I have seen in quite some time. Regardless of level of ball. I'd expect it at the 3rd grade level. It was ridiculous and the yards after contact has to be insane.Coming to you live from Mexico Beach. At least it is a good venue to watch an unimpressive game. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we got the win, but it seemed more like a high school non-region game by two teams not headed for the playoffs OR a win that we'd have been proud of when we had been handed the death penalty or some such serious sanctions by the NCAA. I'm posting this without reading any similar posts. Hope being that my musings will be pure (if not a little overly emotional given the current state of affairs) and without bias from other ideas. We'll see:
We are a mid-level conference team, at best, right now. Problem is, our best-case scenario was to come out hard and fast and make everyone believe that the second half collapse against UT was an aberration. We fell far, far short of accomplishing that and this may be a point on the Mac tenure continuum to remember. Personally, I'm questioning his and the staffs ability to get the players motivated. Of course, the players have to be intrinsically motivated to do this on their own, but a noticeable lack of take-charge guys makes it difficult and throws the onus on the coaches. I just think the staff is falling way short in this area. Can they get it corrected? Hell, they better.
- 10 possessions with 7 empty by us (not counting final clock runout). Scored 1 TD and 3 FG's. The OL continues to be a catastrophe and are truthfully the greater part of our offensive woes. I actually charted all of the games offensive plays and, wait for it, most were...offensive. Can't really pen it on Nuss and Mac other than from a preparation standpoint IMO. Appleby showed he is likely pedestrian at best. Had a few good throws late, but missed a bunch in the first half to open guys, some of which helped kill drives. I didn't think his progression reads were very good as evidenced by missing an open Callaway when he threw it out of the end zone (I think on the possession where Eddy kicked his short one) and not seeing Powell earlier on an open cross. Not much creativity to be had with Appleby and the OL that would have helped in this game.
- Mason > Mac? There's a case for it today, as he might have done more with less. Maybe a reach, but not a long one. Mac and Gators did get the victory. Vandy D was good and the Butler kid was pretty good. Their O made a living on the counter (due to LB's getting cut off and well-executed G and backside blocks). The Webb kid from G'ville gashed us. We were able to get a hold on it in the 4th. Our D bent but didn't break I guess you could say (held Vandy to FG's). Really they got dented up pretty good, but got some key stops late to likely save us. But it was Vandy...not an offensive juggernaut by any means. If our guys think we can just keep showing up, somebody isn't getting reality across to them.
- Kicking game was good. 42 yarder by Eddy was pretty impressive. Punter was good and coverage not bad, though the D lost the field flip a couple of times. Kickers may get a game ball. SOS was in attendance, so who knows
. I'm ready for an offensive player(s) to break out.
- LB's were pretty decent today. Anzalone, in addition to being pretty solid and hard-nosed, is a hustler. He gets in on a lot of plays to the flanks on sheer effort and puts good pressure on the QB when he rushes. Davis will over-commit at times, but he has a great motor. Stay healthy, guys. We need you every game.
- I couldn't believe Vandy gift-wrapped it for us on their punter's gaff and then we botch a snap inside the five. Not a poised play by a team who still has a chance (at least through the conclusion of UGA/UT) to get to ATL.
- Scarlett needs to be the featured guy. I have to agree with others from the Ackerman thread that Perine is likely #2. Cronk has his moments and can catch, but the freshman is coming on. Thompson, as has been noted, takes to long to get started. While on the run game, we actually got a couple of good gains on toss sweeps and a quick pitch. Vandy must have been keying too much on the box runs! Still, we'll take it.
- Our TE's are useless when called on to block. I have to give Law a shout, as I think he's onto something with us being underweight in this position as well as on the D front.
- As spongy as the D was, they had some key stops (as mentioned previously) and some highlights. Pick by Tabor was #1 (but why in the hell did SEC Network have to list him by his stripper nickname?). Great tip by Davis and pick by Washington at a crucial time was #1a.
We'll either keep on eking-out nail biters or drop a few more that might have once been considered winnable (LSU and UGA for example). My hope is for the former, but I'm not overconfident. Go Gators as always! Tell me what you think.
That allowed drive after drive to continue. Unacceptable, period.
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Not saying Mac is done but with our traditional good defensive players a Herman or Petrino would draw offensive talent back immediately.
