Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

[GatorAuthor]

Ten wins (really 9 win regular season) ain't gonna buy us shyt. Unless one of those wins is against Georgia and Georgia loses two or three. I don't see that happening. Even so, all that gives us is Eastern Division "Champions" and a t-shirt. It would take a minor miracle to beat 'bama with our stable of talent. We aren't in contention for anything other than "Champions of Life". Nobody is getting it done in the SEC with 17th ranked, or 15th ranked or even 10th ranked classes.
I like Mullen, a lot. But if next years recruiting class isn't top 5 then there is no way it's ever going to get fixed. In almost all cases coaches either hit the ground recruiting or they don't. Mullen has not, either he turns it around with the 2021 class or we are just delaying the inevitable.

I'm not buying an Eastern Division Champions t-shirt, I can tell you that!

 

[Swamp Donkey]

. But theres no offseason bottom line. We just need to do better in the offseason to improve our chances in season.

Of course there is an offseason bottom line. It will be the bottom line three years when we are still struggling w Vandy and Kintucky and getting ournshyt pushed in by the talented teams.

If we ever want to be elite againnit is going to take three elite classes first.

That is the bottonline.

 

[Oscar the G]

Of course there is an offseason bottom line. It will be the bottom line three years when we are still struggling w Vandy and Kintucky and getting ournshyt pushed in by the talented teams.

If we ever want to be elite againnit is going to take three elite classes first.

That is the bottonline.

Bs. What makes a class elite? Its different for everyone. Theres bama elite, meyer elite, dabo elite, jimbo Fisher elite, cam newton elite?

No talented team has pushed in the shyt of a Mullen UF team.

 

[BMF]

Like I was saying, there's always a homer who will pop in w some silly comments while whistling past the graveyard....

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Bs. What makes a class elite? Its different for everyone. Theres bama elite, meyer elite, dabo elite, jimbo Fisher elite, cam newton elite?

No talented team has pushed in the shyt of a Mullen UF team.

 

[Oscar the G]

Like I was saying, there's always a homer who will pop in w some silly comments while whistling past the graveyard....

So what does elite mean? What is the baseline? We all know improvement is needed. But are you willing to draw the line in the sand?

 

[Oscar the G]

Dont give up. You didn't come back to bitch out. At least give an answer or opinion rather than an emoji. What is your definition of an elite recruiting class?

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Bama's last 4 classes averaged 2nd.
Georgia's 3rd.
LSU 7th
Auburn 10th
UF 12th
Occasionally we may beat one of those teams maybe even two but rarely, if ever, all four.
wHAtbOuTcLEmpSoN? Well Clemson though averaging only slightly better than us has NINE 5*'s. Not to mention they play in the ACC and don't play equal talent until the playoffs. Then they just have to get lucky for one game.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

So what does elite mean? What is the baseline? We all know improvement is needed. But are you willing to draw the line in the sand?

The line in the sand is Georgia. At the very least two top 5 classes. Georgia has signed ten 5* players in the last two years. Twenty-two top 100 players. We've signed ZERO 5*s and eight top 100's.

 

[Oscar the G]

The line in the sand is Georgia. At the very least two top 5 classes. Georgia has signed ten 5* players in the last two years. Twenty-two top 100 players. We've signed ZERO 5*s and eight top 100's.

Are you saying we have to have a better recruiting class than Georgia to beat Georgia? Or a better recruiting class than Georgia to win the SEC? The national championship ? How many years do we need to beat Georgia in recruiting? Is it total points? Total blue chips? Overall ranking?

Its dumb to put some line in the sand.

 

[SeabeeGator]

@Oscar the G trolls the crap out of you guys - its hilarious.

Expectation is 10 wins AND competing with the best, @ltraz. Doubt we get there anytime soon since we handcuff ourselves in recruiting staff and facilities - and that’s BEFORE you consider we don’t have legit recruiting on field coaches. Not a recipe for success.

 

[Oscar the G]

@Oscar the G trolls the crap out of you guys - its hilarious.
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I ain't trolling. I just dislike dumbass posts. We do need to improve. But there is no magical line.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Are you saying we have to have a better recruiting class than Georgia to beat Georgia? Or a better recruiting class than Georgia to win the SEC? The national championship ? How many years do we need to beat Georgia in recruiting? Is it total points? Total blue chips? Overall ranking?

Its dumb to put some line in the sand.

Are you trolling? Cuz I feel like you're trolling.
Yes there is a magical line. WIll MIles at Read and Reaction has done some great analysis on the subject. It's just hard to find in the archives.
Yes, as shocking as this seems to be to you, talent matters. To compete you need to have the talent of your competition. And you need talented depth. We play several teams with more talent than us. But the two we definitely have to go through are Georgia and Alabama (not to mention LSU) who both have way more talent than we do. So unless we get at least close we don't stand a chance of winning the SEC. And yes that means recruiting at their level. And one year ain't going to do it.

And to answer your question elite recruiting classes are, roughly, top 3, have at least two 5*s, ten top 100's, 15 top 250's, 17 blue chippers. These aren't made up numbers. These are the statistics of NC teams.

 

[Slevin]

So you wouldn’t take Oklahoma’s success stoops to post stoops? Interesting.

Somebody count how many ten win seasons Florida has in its intire history, wipe your eyes, and then post it here

Winning exactly 10 games is not anybodies goal. Never said. The barometer being ten wins minimum is the goal. Every single year. And having a few breakout title shots in between.

Really still astonished that anyone can say hey frost has to take over a shyt roster give him time but Mullen winning 10 first year is a sign of disaster to come. Really just doesn’t add up

 

[BMF]

So what does elite mean? What is the baseline? We all know improvement is needed. But are you willing to draw the line in the sand?

Pump it, Pumper!

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Somebody count how many ten win seasons Florida has in its intire history, wipe your eyes, and then post it here

Please stop the "TEN WIN" hoseshyt.

"Ten Win" meant something in the 70s when the term was coined. Now that we added two games (both cupcakes) ot doesnt mean a damn thing. Kintucky and Butters had "ten wins". Hell Butters has more "ten win" seasons than Dullens in much fewer years coaching.

Moreover, trying to compare "our history" when pre-air conditioning, pre-Dismey Florida had less population than Mississippi is hilarious?

In the shorter cupcake free seasons, 7-3 or 8-3 are equivalent to 10-3. And it was really hard to have 10 wins seasons back when we only played 8 or 9 games.

How many three loss (or better) seasons seasons we had?

Lots.

2018, 2015, 2012 2009, 2008, 2005, 2001, 2000 1998, 1997, 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993 1991, 1990 1985, 1984, 1983, 1975, 1969, 1968, 1966, 1964, 1963, 1960, 1957, 1956, 1952, 1944, 1934, 1933, 1930, 1929, 1928, 1927, 1925, 1924, 1923, 1922, 1921, 1920, 1919, 1915, 1914, 1913, 1912, 1911,

Edit: added 1992 bc of the Fooley/Butters Rule.

Probably have to add many more for the Fooley/Chimp Rule but I'm too lazy to check the season results.

Really still astonished that anyone can say hey frost has to take over a shyt roster give him time but Mullen winning 10 first year is a sign of disaster to come.

because time isn't going to fix it if you're not recruiting any better than Butters, and he isnt. He just sucks at recruiting different positions (which is most).

 

[Slevin]

Please stop the "TEN WIN" hoseshyt.

"Ten Win" meant something in the 70s when the term was coined. Now that we added two games (both cupcakes) ot doesnt mean a damn thing. Kintucky and Butters had "ten wins". Hell Butters has more "ten win" seasons than Dullens in much fewer years coaching.

Moreover, trying to compare "our history" when pre-air conditioning, pre-Dismey Florida had less population than Mississippi is hilarious?

In the shorter cupcake free seasons, 7-3 or 8-3 are equivalent to 10-3.

How many three loss (or better) seasons seasons we had?

Lots.

2018, 2015, 2012 2009, 2008, 2005, 2001, 2000 1998, 1997, 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993 1991, 1990 1985, 1984, 1983, 1975, 1969, 1968, 1966, 1964, 1963, 1960, 1957, 1956, 1952, 1944, 1934, 1933, 1930, 1929, 1928, 1927, 1925, 1924, 1923, 1922, 1921, 1920, 1919, 1915, 1914, 1913, 1912, 1911,



because time isn't going to fix it if you're not recruiting any better than Butters, and he isnt. He just sucks at recruiting different positions (which is most).

Bullshyt. It’s been proven time and time again we have flipped the blue chip percentage and still continue to grow there. He’s signed 1.... full.... class.

One full class and the fvkking torches are out. Hilarious. The difference here is that whenever this is over, I will have at least had some fun watching gator football. Can’t say the same for some of you.

 

[Oscar the G]

No, I definitely don't think that's what you were saying. But what's important? Individual evaluations? Or recruiting rankings?