Bits & Pieces: Florida vs Georgia

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As Cocktail Parties go, this Saturday left little good to mull over. 43-20 that wasn’t really that close is tasting more like Early Times and Chek Cola than the top-shelf we were all once accustomed to as another loss burns from the throat all the way down to the pit. What adds to the burn was the wee bit of hope generated by a late eclipse of a 10-point deficit on the road in Columbia two weeks prior that never really amounted to anything after an opening drive TD that looked like this year might be different after all. Turns out it was ‘Fool’s Gold,’ but then most knew that UGA wasn’t #1 for nothing and the Columbia Comeback was comparatively speaking more of an outlier than a trend.

What I didn’t expect was for one pivotal play to completely change the trajectory of the game. I was taught and believed that certain plays have impactful influences on games, but the ultimate outcome is truthfully based on the totality of plays made (or not) on both sides of the ball, including special teams. And Lord knows there were enough that were negatively impactful in all phases to go around. BUT, the failed 4th and inches, the way it was called, shifting from gun to under center, then snapping between Mertz’ legs to Etienne 7 yds deep with the intent to throw a one receiver flat route that was ultimately blown to smithereens by an unblocked defender and ended with Etienne scrambling to be tackled well short of the LOS. It reeked of “I know we desperately need to convert to try and gain momentum to score and keep it close, but I’m not confident that we can just line up and wedge it for 6 inches, so I’m going to pull some low percentage trick play out of my @ss instead!” Conversely, we’d have been better off calling timeout and then punting, barring another shank or block. Point being is that from that point until later in the game, maybe, when the outcome was cast, our countenance fell and it was apparent that the belief that victory was achievable fell beyond belief by the team who’s task it was to achieve.

This falls squarely on Billy’s shoulders. It also, I believe, belies the shaky ground the team is really on despite the good ideas and work Billy is constructing with regard to fixing the toxic culture that he inherited. It’s true that young people, to include college football players, really want and need expectations, rules, and boundaries in their lives to keep them focused and growing in a positive direction. In competitive situations, they also need consistency and success to work hand in hand. There has been some of both, but not in a pattern that suggests ultimate growth and a winning streak or streaks. Thus, especially when youth is being so heavily counted on, doubt can appear and today it was debilitating. And that door, I’m convinced, was opened with that one ill-advised call. And we never recovered.

@Detroitgator commented in the game chat that he hoped that Billy “was thinking about an OC!” My reply was that “he f’n better be doing more than thinking,” and if not, despite any programmatic good, recruiting gains, it will be time sooner than later for him to move on. I’m not sold by any stretch that his offensive philosophy as it stands will be significantly better with an influx of talent that doesn’t include a massive improvement in OL talent, but more importantly, even greater improvement in talent, coaching technique, and EFFORT on the defensive side of the ball, specifically in the secondary and LB groups. Even if we had LSU’s offense today, UGA would have still outscored us. I was initially impressed with Armstrong’s enthusiasm, especially compared to Big Head Todd’s lack there of, but in ensuing games there’s been multiple instances of personnel screw ups (too many players/not enough, not getting calls in, etc.) to go along with no pass rush, LBs getting sealed, cut off after taking poor pursuit angles more akin to HS athletes than coached up collegians, and secondary players who are consistently out of position and/or quit on the play and watch receivers run wild for scores or long gains. And the latter has shown sporadic to no improvement now 8 games into the season. Armstrong is the DC, so I’m looking to him and then ultimately to Billy. We damn sure don’t have a high octane offense, so we’ve got to be much more solid on the defensive side to stay close the rest of the way, much less have a chance to win, even with Arky I’m afraid.

The Special Teams were pretty much an abomination, so it can be framed as the culmination of failures in all three phases of the game. Painful to say, especially against a bitter rival who we recently had the momentum against. @stephenPE made a good point that Kirby came in and made it job one to get the BEST players and he’s done that. It took him a few years, but he’s got them and in his system that features a strong, physical, fundamentally and schematically sound defense, good special teams, and an offense that operates behind arguably the best OL in CFB that runs and throws with equal authority. And we are not yet close and today has cast doubts on whether Billy, as he currently stands, can close that gap. I read an article earlier this week (ESPN) that referenced Stricklin speaking on hiring Billy, after much deliberation as not a “1 or 2 year solution, but a 10 or 15 year solution!” I believe the gist of that was based on anticipated programmatic cultural overhaul, that was in dire need, ultimately leading to success in Ws and Ls and onto division, conference, and national championships. After today, it’s hard to see that far after the offensive failures from mid first quarter until late game when, again, the die was already cast. The inability to slow UGA down, much less stop them consistently only added to the depression.

So where does that leave us? Short term, it leaves us to rebound and salvage something, maybe keep the recruiting class intact, starting with the Razorbacks next week. From there, see if Billy can find a way for us to at least show up in the remaining three. FSU at the end will be very telling. A bitter rival who’s having a banner year (despite what you may think of their schedule) has got to be a game you find a way to do more than just show up. So we’ll see. I think Billy had better take that deep look inward he’s obviously avoided about his expectations of himself and his coaches, both offensively and defensively and including special teams. He’s got to convince the fan base, but moreover his own players that they can do more successfully and consistently than has been accomplished so far, but it won’t be accomplished doing the same things over again. I have already gone long so the first and only change I’ll mention is do something to help the OL in pass pro, like max with two backs, and get creative with your three receivers. When we are protecting with five, it is usually just three as the OTs, especially the Alabama transfer, were absolutely destroyed today. That would be a start. Beyond that, there are multitudes of changes to consider all over the field. But Billy’s got to accept that need first before we can reasonably expect positive changes to occur. I find myself hoping he’ll get better held to account in his Monday presser for starters.

I really wish I had a little sunshine to pump, but it‘s hard to see any after this dismantling and getting kicked down the basement stairs. I do know there’s better days ahead, I’m just not sure when! In the short term, I’m pulling for us to get W #6 this coming Saturday. Next step. Worry about down the road when it gets here, Billy could tell us more, hopefully some good things, in the weeks to come. We’ll see.

Go Gators!
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P/S - I’m scheduled for some surgery this coming Friday and doubtful that I will be able to put up an article next Saturday. Forecast is at least a 4 day stay if not longer. Hopefully I can watch at least. Heck, I kinda need a break and I’m sure you all could use one, too :lol:
 
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As for sunshine...
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Thanks Cover, that was probably the most meaningful recap you've done. Our situation sucks, the team right now looks like crap, but there is always hope. The deep thinkers up there in the clouds are hopefully looking at the big picture on what this staff needs to do to salvage this season. Tonight it's disappointing and depressing that we are this weak in front of the whole country.
 

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Wow, C2. no one can say you do not call it as you see it. I appreciate the candor. When you criticize your fellow coaches then I know it is real. The rest is not important. What is important is your procedure to be successful, your recovery to be smooth and you to be back in the saddle. I just spent 2 weeks with a relative who has no immediate family and even less of anything else trying to help her thru surgery and recovery. So my thoughts are with you my good man!
 

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Forgot to add Cover - Best of luck on your upcoming surgery, know you've been thru a tough ride with health. I can identify - I've got a heart that Oinks with every beat! New branch on the Family Tree hangs low over the mudhole :pumper:
 

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Prayers for your quick recovery, C2!

I share your sentiments, but not your optimism. I don't see this getting better anytime soon. This coach talks a big game about processes, but he just had his team lay an effort egg against a rival after a bye week.
 

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Prayers for your quick recovery, C2!

I share your sentiments, but not your optimism. I don't see this getting better anytime soon. This coach talks a big game about processes, but he just had his team lay an effort egg against a rival after a bye week.
As an attorney, you don't understand "process?" You think everything should be a directed verdict? Because yeah, that happens too?
 

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As an attorney, you don't understand "process?" You think everything should be a directed verdict? Because yeah, that happens too?
I am an operations manager. I definitely understand "process".

I also, as an attorney, understand "service of process", which should be happening to CBN for fraud in the inducement by claiming he had some "process" that presumably involved winning. :grin:
 

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I appreciate the good wishes. My optimism in all things relates to my outlook for recovery in my own personal life. I fully intend to keep overcoming and living until the Good Lord tells me it’s time to come home. So far the message I’m getting is that I have more work to do. Those are my expectations of the Gators, with or without Billy.
 

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As Cocktail Parties go, this Saturday left little good to mull over. 43-20 that wasn’t really that close is tasting more like Early Times and Chek Cola than the top-shelf we were all once accustomed to as another loss burns from the throat all the way down to the pit. What adds to the burn was the wee bit of hope generated by a late eclipse of a 10-point deficit on the road in Columbia two weeks prior that never really amounted to anything after an opening drive TD that looked like this year might be different after all. Turns out it was ‘Fool’s Gold,’ but then most knew that UGA wasn’t #1 for nothing and the Columbia Comeback was comparatively speaking more of an outlier than a trend.

What I didn’t expect was for one pivotal play to completely change the trajectory of the game. I was taught and believed that certain plays have impactful influences on games, but the ultimate outcome is truthfully based on the totality of plays made (or not) on both sides of the ball, including special teams. And Lord knows there were enough that were negatively impactful in all phases to go around. BUT, the failed 4th and inches, the way it was called, shifting from gun to under center, then snapping between Mertz’ legs to Etienne 7 yds deep with the intent to throw a one receiver flat route that was ultimately blown to smithereens by an unblocked defender and ended with Etienne scrambling to be tackled well short of the LOS. It reeked of “I know we desperately need to convert to try and gain momentum to score and keep it close, but I’m not confident that we can just line up and wedge it for 6 inches, so I’m going to pull some low percentage trick play out of my @ss instead!” Conversely, we’d have been better off calling timeout and then punting, barring another shank or block. Point being is that from that point until later in the game, maybe, when the outcome was cast, our countenance fell and it was apparent that the belief that victory was achievable fell beyond belief by the team who’s task it was to achieve.

This falls squarely on Billy’s shoulders. It also, I believe, belies the shaky ground the team is really on despite the good ideas and work Billy is constructing with regard to fixing the toxic culture that he inherited. It’s true that young people, to include college football players, really want and need expectations, rules, and boundaries in their lives to keep them focused and growing in a positive direction. In competitive situations, they also need consistency and success to work hand in hand. There has been some of both, but not in a pattern that suggests ultimate growth and a winning streak or streaks. Thus, especially when youth is being so heavily counted on, doubt can appear and today it was debilitating. And that door, I’m convinced, was opened with that one ill-advised call. And we never recovered.

@Detroitgator commented in the game chat that he hoped that Billy “was thinking about an OC!” My reply was that “he f’n better be doing more than thinking,” and if not, despite any programmatic good, recruiting gains, it will be time sooner than later for him to move on. I’m not sold by any stretch that his offensive philosophy as it stands will be significantly better with an influx of talent that doesn’t include a massive improvement in OL talent, but more importantly, even greater improvement in talent, coaching technique, and EFFORT on the defensive side of the ball, specifically in the secondary and LB groups. Even if we had LSU’s offense today, UGA would have still outscored us. I was initially impressed with Armstrong’s enthusiasm, especially compared to Big Head Todd’s lack there of, but in ensuing games there’s been multiple instances of personnel screw ups (too many players/not enough, not getting calls in, etc.) to go along with no pass rush, LBs getting sealed, cut off after taking poor pursuit angles more akin to HS athletes than coached up collegians, and secondary players who are consistently out of position and/or quit on the play and watch receivers run wild for scores or long gains. And the latter has shown sporadic to no improvement now 8 games into the season. Armstrong is the DC, so I’m looking to him and then ultimately to Billy. We damn sure don’t have a high octane offense, so we’ve got to be much more solid on the defensive side to stay close the rest of the way, much less have a chance to win, even with Arky I’m afraid.

The Special Teams were pretty much an abomination, so it can be framed as the culmination of failures in all three phases of the game. Painful to say, especially against a bitter rival who we recently had the momentum against. @stephenPE made a good point that Kirby came in and made it job one to get the BEST players and he’s done that. It took him a few years, but he’s got them and in his system that features a strong, physical, fundamentally and schematically sound defense, good special teams, and an offense that operates behind arguably the best OL in CFB that runs and throws with equal authority. And we are not yet close and today has cast doubts on whether Billy, as he currently stands, can close that gap. I read an article earlier this week (ESPN) that referenced Stricklin speaking on hiring Billy, after much deliberation as not a “1 or 2 year solution, but a 10 or 15 year solution!” I believe the gist of that was based on anticipated programmatic cultural overhaul, that was in dire need, ultimately leading to success in Ws and Ls and onto division, conference, and national championships. After today, it’s hard to see that far after the offensive failures from mid first quarter until late game when, again, the die was already cast. The inability to slow UGA down, much less stop them consistently only added to the depression.

So where does that leave us? Short term, it leaves us to rebound and salvage something, maybe keep the recruiting class intact, starting with the Razorbacks next week. From there, see if Billy can find a way for us to at least show up in the remaining three. FSU at the end will be very telling. A bitter rival who’s having a banner year (despite what you may think of their schedule) has got to be a game you find a way to do more than just show up. So we’ll see. I think Billy had better take that deep look inward he’s obviously avoided about his expectations of himself and his coaches, both offensively and defensively and including special teams. He’s got to convince the fan base, but moreover his own players that they can do more successfully and consistently than has been accomplished so far, but it won’t be accomplished doing the same things over again. I have already gone long so the first and only change I’ll mention is do something to help the OL in pass pro, like max with two backs, and get creative with your three receivers. When we are protecting with five, it is usually just three as the OTs, especially the Alabama transfer, were absolutely destroyed today. That would be a start. Beyond that, there are multitudes of changes to consider all over the field. But Billy’s got to accept that need first before we can reasonably expect positive changes to occur. I find myself hoping he’ll get better held to account in his Monday presser for starters.

I really wish I had a little sunshine to pump, but it‘s hard to see any after this dismantling and getting kicked down the basement stairs. I do know there’s better days ahead, I’m just not sure when! In the short term, I’m pulling for us to get W #6 this coming Saturday. Next step. Worry about down the road when it gets here, Billy could tell us more, hopefully some good things, in the weeks to come. We’ll see.

Go Gators!
:chomp:

P/S - I’m scheduled for some surgery this coming Friday and doubtful that I will be able to put up an article next Saturday. Forecast is at least a 4 day stay if not longer. Hopefully I can watch at least. Heck, I kinda need a break and I’m sure you all could use one, too :lol:
Thanks for the write-up. One thing that frustrates me are the routes that are 2, 3, or 4 yards short of the first down expecting our receivers to consistently break a tackle and relying on YAC. Not going to be consistently successful against most teams in the SEC.

And prayers C2, get well soon!
 

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Instant gratification!

From the top of the mountain to the bottom in one week. ( 1 game)

The difference between what you think you deserve to what you earn can be distressing.

A friend in another chat room said, "he was humiliated", by the game. I asked, "did you play?" It's just a game and we are just fan's.

The Sun will still come up in a hour and I still Love my Florida Gators.

I hope we don't let Gajaw beat us twice.
 

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First, best wishes @cover2 for a speedy recovery and get back soon. Prayers your way!!!

Cannot disagree with anything you put out there and I share both your assessment and optimism. Somehow we have to win and get bowl eligible and would like to see 2 more wins. I just feel getting the extra reps with this team, the lack of players that will opt out (NFL), and getting Lagway here will do many things. Hopefully it will turn that part of the page, get them reps, and keep the class intact. Lagway will be a big part of that.

Billy has a lot of work to do with the staff and overall program. But we have to start next week with Arky. Here's to trying to keep the optimism going.
 

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Instant gratification!

From the top of the mountain to the bottom in one week. ( 1 game)

The difference between what you think you deserve to what you earn can be distressing.

A friend in another chat room said, "he was humiliated", by the game. I asked, "did you play?" It's just a game and we are just fan's.

The Sun will still come up in a hour and I still Love my Florida Gators.

I hope we don't let Gajaw beat us twice.
Damn millennials!
 

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