Butch Jones: It takes six or seven years

rogdochar

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Well, there's an HC that knows how to inspire the players he now has. ?? Idiot mouth.
 

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I guess things move a little slower for Botch. Mac did it in about 6-7 months. Just an idiot trying to save his arse.
 

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Am I being presumptuous when I say "15nessee?"
 

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GatorBart;307653 said:
Coach Mac says otherwise.

Well in all fairness, we're comparing UF to ut. Which is more contrast than comparison.


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TN G8tr;307662 said:
I guess things move a little slower for Botch. Mac did it in about 6-7 months. Just an idiot trying to save his arse.

Don't tell dork. He thinks ut is prepping for the Renaissance 3.0 while we continue to luck our way through 11 wins.


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To be fair, he said to "build" a program. Our issues were a ****ty HC, weak OL, lack of depth at LB, and poor overall offensive play. We had most of the parts in place. Butch is right....they didn't have a program.
 

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In all fairness, Winning 8 games isn't the same thing as building a program.

It's really too early to say Mac has built a program..... He did get the IPF built but most of his players were recruited by mischamp.

I think it is obvious that Mac is a better game day coach and can put players in position to be successful. But to say "He's built a program", no, not yet.
 

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alcoholica;n307680 said:
To be fair, he said to "build" a program. Our issues were a ****ty HC, weak OL, lack of depth at LB, and poor overall offensive play. We had most of the parts in place. Butch is right....they didn't have a program.
Mac also completely overhauled, rebuilt and added staff to the football dept. Muschamp didn't do any of that.
 

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Turk182;n307694 said:
In all fairness, Winning 8 games isn't the same thing as building a program.

It's really too early to say Mac has built a program..... He did get the IPP built but most of his players were recruited by mischamp.

I think it is obvious that Mac is a better game day coach and can put players in position to be successful. But to say "He's built a program", no, not yet.

I don't disagree with you that it is too early to say that Mac has "built" a program. However the biggest thing about building a program is creating buy-in and establishing a mentality that you are supposed to win. Mac has already done that.
 

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GatorTAG;n307695 said:
Mac also completely overhauled, rebuilt and added staff to the football dept. Muschamp didn't do any of that.

With the exception of the better Coaching, doesn't Foley get credit for the facility and staff upgrades also?
 

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Turk182;n307699 said:
With the exception of the better Coaching, doesn't Foley get credit for the facility and staff upgrades also?
Not on this board :lol2:
 

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I stated this in another thread, but the contract Botch is currently in has him there until 2020 and the buyout is $4M. He can say whatever he wants because I doubt that program has the money to pay him to go away. Too many years of being an also ran.

Kiffin and Dooley did their part, but UT screwed up with how they handled Fat Phil.
 

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