Defense/Offense divide in the locker room?

[QueenCityGator]

This will be the downfall of our team. Defensive players already seem to get angry at offensive players, which at this point is totally understandable. Multiple years of bad offense have emotionally worn down our defensive players. A good coach would immediately get rid of any locker room divide, but very few of us have that confidence.

Our defensive players can only control their part of the game. They give all they can on the field, and they have made mistakes, but as seen last game, they work hard and fix those mistakes. Is it too much for them to ask their offense to score a few points and consistently move the ball?

I guess the point of this post is not to bash the offense (which everyone has done plenty of times), but to support the defense, and to let them know their frustration is understandable and that they deserve to be helped by the offense.

 

[TheDouglas78]

This will be the downfall of our team. Defensive players already seem to get angry at offensive players, which at this point is totally understandable. Multiple years of bad offense have emotionally worn down our defensive players. A good coach would immediately get rid of any locker room divide, but very few of us have that confidence.

Our defensive players can only control their part of the game. They give all they can on the field, and they have made mistakes, but as seen last game, they work hard and fix those mistakes. Is it too much for them to ask their offense to score a few points and consistently move the ball?

I guess the point of this post is not to bash the offense (which everyone has done plenty of times), but to support the defense, and to let them know their frustration is understandable and that they deserve to be helped by the offense.

So who should be made at the defense for their performance against Alabama, and their performances against Kentucky and Tennesse really don't give them the moral high ground. If it wasn't Tennesse shooting themselves in the foot the score would have been 24-10.

 

[Coach9]

Two backups scrapping prompt this?

 

[BMF]

The players (mostly D) seemed excited that Harris was taking over the O (several recruits made positive comments as well - see story by Zach A on this).


The D has been getting abused, especially late in games, due to the O's inability to stay on the field and/or score points. It's going on 5 years now.

Can't blame D players for being upset...

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets shot or stabbed in the locker room tomorrow.

 

[URGatorBait]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets shot or stabbed in the locker room tomorrow.

AH is out of jail?

 

[GMDGator]

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Can we just cancel the rest of the season? LOL

 

[ntcrze]

That couldn't possibly be happening right now. The defense couldn't be stupid enough to be full of itself after stopping Tennessee,it was only acouple of weeks earlier they were steamrolled by Alabama. We have seen since then that Alabama is still not an offensive juggernaut after managing only one offensive touchdown against Ole Miss. Blake Sims also showed he's nothing special at quarterback.
Let's crow after shutting down Missouri or Georgia, they are pretty good offensive teams. LSU is about as miserable on offense as Florida, it's hard to see how either team will score Saturday. It will come down to the line of scrimmage. Florida was dominated on both sides of the ball last year, they should have plenty of incentive to be better, especially Dante Fowler who La' El Collins obliterated.If there is dissension between the offense and defense, there is no hope for this team because it would prove they are stupid. You can't puff your chest out after beating Tennessee when you were smoked the previous game, that is ludicrous.

 

[Gator Fever]

Noles are loving this crap.

 

[GatorJB]

So do you know that this is happening or are you just assuming that it is? I have my doubts that this is going on now.

 

[TheDouglas78]

So do you know that this is happening or are you just assuming that it is? I have my doubts that this is going on now.

appears to be assumptions.

 

[8802Gator]

Skyler mornhinweg and Gerald Willis got into a fight outside the stadium on monday morning so this has some teeth. Rumor is Willis missed the Kentucky and Bama games because of disciplinary suspension and Muschamp is very close to kicking Willis off the team after this fight.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Skyler mornhinweg and Gerald Willis got into a fight outside the stadium on monday morning so this has some teeth. Rumor is Willis missed the Kentucky and Bama games because of disciplinary suspension and Muschamp is very close to kicking Willis off the team after this fight.

A fight between a guy who can't get on the field due to possible displinary reasons, and a backup quarterback doesn't mean there is a rift in the team. Teammates fight. Regardless if they are winning or losing. Especially after a highly emotional and taxing day that the team probably had yesterday with the Harris news. The fight allow doesn't provide teeth to this assumption. Now if you have other evidence, maybe.

 

[GatorJB]

Skyler mornhinweg and Gerald Willis got into a fight outside the stadium on monday morning so this has some teeth. Rumor is Willis missed the Kentucky and Bama games because of disciplinary suspension and Muschamp is very close to kicking Willis off the team after this fight.

Two back up players with very little experience getting into a fight does not mean that the defense is angry with the offense for lack of production. If that were the case, Willis would have punched Driskel or a any offensive starter, not Mornhinweg the 3rd or 4th string QB that has no impact on the offense's performance thus far.

 

[deuce]

Are there any facts to support this idle speculation?

Good God, some of our fan base are pathetic!

 

[8802Gator]

You don't think Muschamp is harder on the D than he is on JD?? Did you not see the press conference after TN where he was equivocating on benching JD and making excuses for him?

How many coaches do you ever hear blame a qb for something? They hear it enough from the fans. There is no reason for the head coach to pile on in a press conference.

 

[8802Gator]

Skyler mornhinweg and Gerald Willis got into a fight outside the stadium on monday morning so this has some teeth. Rumor is Willis missed the Kentucky and Bama games because of disciplinary suspension and Muschamp is very close to kicking Willis off the team after this fight.

A fight between a guy who can't get on the field due to possible displinary reasons, and a backup quarterback doesn't mean there is a rift in the team. Teammates fight. Regardless if they are winning or losing. Especially after a highly emotional and taxing day that the team probably had yesterday with the Harris news. The fight allow doesn't provide teeth to this assumption. Now if you have other evidence, maybe.

I am not saying it is fact, just stating that a fight happened between a def player and an off player.

Goldkamp has since talked with Gerald Willis' dad and he said that this is going to be a non issue and doesnt expect Willis to be dismissed. I am proud of Skyler. Reports are he didnt back down and got in a couple shots. At least one of our qbs has a pulse.

 

[TheDouglas78]

I am not saying it is fact, just stating that a fight happened between a def player and an off player.

Goldkamp has since talked with Gerald Willis' dad and he said that this is going to be a non issue and doesnt expect Willis to be dismissed. I am proud of Skyler. Reports are he didnt back down and got in a couple shots. At least one of our qbs has a pulse.

Over a pair of cleats, that were precieved to be stolen. It could have happened between two defense or two offensive players. Doesn't amount to anything other than between those two players.