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The guys I talk to in the facility department believe they took it from the all in one project.
FSU hires Cornrow Norvell from bottom feeder Memphis
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The guys I talk to in the facility department believe they took it from the all in one project.
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Willie Taggart never signed a final contract. Here’s why it could matter
Kentucky had a similar situation with Billy Gillispie. It went to court before a seven-figure settlement.
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/sem...matter/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Kentucky had a similar situation with Billy Gillispie. It went to court before a seven-figure settlement.
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/sem...matter/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Really who knows what? .... It's remotely possible that the team likes Haggins enough to rebound somewhat. They are in the ACC after all.
Possible they do well enough that officials can reason with their fanship that this is the best choice. Don't you think those "experts" know that whoever they get can produce a lousy season also?
They're facing double barrels. They can save some outlandish expenses and still lose as many games as with Haggins or the new HC. Still, I love picturing their on-field bumbling next year.
Possible they do well enough that officials can reason with their fanship that this is the best choice. Don't you think those "experts" know that whoever they get can produce a lousy season also?
They're facing double barrels. They can save some outlandish expenses and still lose as many games as with Haggins or the new HC. Still, I love picturing their on-field bumbling next year.
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If Haggins is ultimately the guy (which is the post you responded to), meaning he’s been officially hired as head coach, that would mean he has a multi year contract, he gets to hire assistants who will also have multi year contracts, etc. So no, he wouldn’t be able to be dropped “at any time” as you said, at least not free of charge as you seem to imply. Would he be cheaper than Norvell...probably, but he won’t be working for free and he’ll have a buyout built in lest he gets fired. Ditto for his assistants.
If FSU happens to keep the interim tag on him for a year, there’s a very good chance that would be more detrimental to their program long term. What recruits will want to commit to them knowing they couldn’t land a recognizable or better coach this year and being left to wonder who they’ll be able to hire 12 months out. Any decent assistant coaches they currently have on staff will also be looking to bail first chance they get under these conditions.
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That’s FSU being hopeful. I deal with contracts and contract law all the time. They were paying him under the terms of the draft contract. He was performing the duties of the HC. A court would rule that he was under contract because both parties were the understanding that he was. Any decent lawyer would crush FSU in court if they tried to claim he wasn’t under contract to get out of any of the buyout.
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No it's the link. The story is still up on tampabay.com/sports.
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Any link that uses Taggert's first name gets jacked up because Ox has it set to add all of the L's......
Interesting read. Also mentions that Butters contract specifically said there was an offset (in his buyout payment) only if he works for an SEC school. Another great job by our AD's office writing a contract not in our favor.
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We were dumb enough to not only hire Muschit, but follow that up with hiring of Butterfvvck and give them extensions. The fact that you’re giving FSU this much credit in terms of their lack of stupidity is almost blasphemous.
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I’m a money guy in the end, and this change will cost them over $20 million easy. It’s almost unreal. Even for them I’ll never wrap my mind around going that deep in the hole without a plan. As far as hiring anyone can miss but foley made an art of it.
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may not get top 5 classes, but they’ll still recruit decent
they excised a cancer. Willie was slowly bleeding their bottom line. At least now people will go to games. I’m sure they thought they were more important than they are and would have a big name, but first priority was to stop the bleeding
I heard that the day the news broke.
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You must use one of those online contract templates. I’m pretty sure FSU can sign him to any terms he’ll agree to, and since he bleeds Garnett and Gold, could be minimal. Contracts aren’t that difficult to understand.
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Thank you Captain Obvious, but it’s not pretty sure, it’s absolutely certain that FSU & Odell can mutually agree to terms (within the bounds of the law) and everybody on this board (except for you apparently) knows this. However, the question isn’t whether they can do so, the question is do you really believe Haggins would agree to be the permanent head coach without having buyout compensation were he to get fired? While you’re at it, why don’t you enlighten us as to what terms Haggins would agree to were he to be offered the permanent HC job, annual compensation and number of years? You said it could be minimal (again, thanks Capt. O, we know it could be 1 penny per year if Haggins and FSU agreed to that but that’s not happening). Since he bleeds Garnett & Gold and you feel a hometown discount would happen, take a stab at the number you think it would be.
As far as your comment about using online templates and contracts aren’t that difficult to understand, wtf does that even mean? Are you saying that Odell wouldn’t have an agent represent him during negotiations? Do tell.
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Local business men/alumni.
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The amount of money they are shelling out to Willie is absurd, I totally agree. That being said, FSUs administration’s ego clearly did not in any way align with reality. I think they truly believed the FSU “brand” still carried weight and that they’d have no issue landing Bob Stoops by offering him essentially anything he wanted. That was their plan and yet they failed to realize that there is a Florida State logo next to the definition of a dumpster fire in Webster’s Dictionary. Their brand is absolutely destroyed and outside of football, Tallahassee really has nothing to offer in terms of quality of life. They are just in the beginning stages of realizing that FSU is just another football program in the ACC.
