Bart, I 100% disagree. Those two guys have a job....they have support staff....and they have more connections in the business than anyone that is not a coach, NFL GM, scout, and/or an agent. They talk to the scouts, the agents, the GM's, the coaches, etc. It's what they do. And if McShay or Kiper put out a "mock draft" they are doing so w/ the knowledge that "player X has fallen in most people's eyes". They - and no one else - can predict when a team will make a trade, have a surprise pick (a reach), or go w/ a different position, pick "the best player available" vs. the needs of the team. It's like trying to pick a perfect NCAA bracket - you can't do it. So, what they do is research and put out what they find. If there was someone better at doing it I'm sure ESPN, SI, Fox Sports, etc would go get them....because Kiper isn't the most handsome man to look at on tv! When I see someone say that "Kiper is an idiot" or "McShay is clueless" it's usually because they are butthurt because one of their favorite players got "dissed" or whatever. These guys (Kiper & McShay) do this for a living! Sure, they make mistakes, but they are the best in the business (and it's a small business because they're really the only household names that do this)....