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This just listed a few blocks from my house: 2/1, 864sf - fully remodeled.....$554/sf ($479k). This is an example of an a-hole overpricing. I hope they eat the carrying costs for 3+ months, greedy mfer's!

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That's a common occurrence around here - little 2/1's that need a ton of renovation, less than 1100sf, and priced over $400sf (many are over $500sf, like this one). Not all of them sell, but many move after a small price cut. I was hoping to get something under $350k for a rental, but those prices go real quick if it's not a total dump.
 

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Pension fund Calstrs braced for writedowns in $50bn property portfolio

Warning from $306bn fund is latest sign that higher interest rates have upended US commercial real estate market

 

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punish those who achieve good credit and reward those who don't (usually self inflicted) makes perfect sense when you're fuching retarded.
I hate these damn people.
 

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More socialism coming to America....let's punish the good people who have been responsible and are trying establish the first step in creating wealth by owning a home for those that have proven themselves incapable of being as responsible....goodbye future middle class of Americans....
 

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punish those who achieve good credit and reward those who don't (usually self inflicted) makes perfect sense when you're fuching retarded.
I hate these damn people.
This is essentially what caused the last housing crisis - the housing market heated up around the end of the Clinton administration, they implemented new rules allowing 'no income verification' type loans, Bush admin took over, didn't adjust any of the Clinton policies....housing market took off, then crashed hard AF. I'm not sure if this will cause a housing boom, but I think (among other reasons) the Biden admin is using this as a part of their "equity" agenda....but also as a way to try and stimulate the housing market, which has been mostly flat for the last year. We'll see how it goes.....
 

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So here's a house in Gulfport that just sold for $60k under asking - they overpriced it a bit, but it's a full remodel, 3/2 over 1250sf. It's in a borderline shady area (once you cross 49th street you are in City of St. Pete neighborhood called Child's Park....which is a straight ghetto. But this house sold for under $400k, which is getting harder and harder to find around here:

 

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I'm not really sure how accurate that narrative is.

For the record, here are the old and new loan level price adjustment tables:



There are puts and takes. Generally, people on the top end and bottom end of credit scores are better off. Certain things are cheaper such as getting a mortgage on a multi-unit home.

I wish I knew about these tables last time I refinanced rather than sitting on the phone with some jackass while he randomly punched different numbers into his computer trying to see what resulted in a better rate.
 

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Essentially this is a mortgage rate buydown for shaky borrowers.....I got an idea, how about I get some f vcking reparations from the first mortgage I took out in 1990 when my FHA mortgage came with a 11% interest rate and this thing called "PMI"....Not to mention the fact both my wife and I worked 2 jobs to be able to put down money and afford the payment....
 

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Essentially this is a mortgage rate buydown for shaky borrowers.....I got an idea, how about I get some f vcking reparations from the first mortgage I took out in 1990 when my FHA mortgage came with a 11% interest rate and this thing called "PMI"....Not to mention the fact both my wife and I worked 2 jobs to be able to put down money and afford the payment....
I would assume that you have a credit score above 780 and that you would be better off under the new table.
 

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I think you missed the point of my rant....
I got the point of your rant which was in response to the narrative in the article. I was simply pointing out that I found some evidence that contradicts that narrative. It also happens to be evidence that should come as good news to most of the folks reading this thread... Those with the best credit will be paying less than they were previously.
 

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So here's a house in Gulfport that just sold for $60k under asking - they overpriced it a bit, but it's a full remodel, 3/2 over 1250sf. It's in a borderline shady area (once you cross 49th street you are in City of St. Pete neighborhood called Child's Park....which is a straight ghetto. But this house sold for under $400k, which is getting harder and harder to find around here:


Inside looks great. Outside looks like a trap house. Bizarre combo, and reminds me a little of some of the oddities and mismatched quality of homes in ‘07-‘09.
 

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Anytime you want the price of a commodity to skyrocket, just have the government subsidize it so poor people can buy it.
 

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Anytime you want the price of a commodity to skyrocket, just have the government subsidize it so poor people can buy it.
look graph GIF
 

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Here is a very prime example of what is going on here, especially the properties bought by investors/contractors. rehabbed and now they are hoping to break even, at best. You can see this if you scroll down to Property History. But I will summarize. Bought Summer 2022 for 355K, the national Kung Flu top. Rehabbed. Listed for 650K, dropped to 615K, dropped to 595K, dropped to 560K, dropped to 520K, now 480K. A 20+% price drop from first list. Trust me, knowing this community and the condition it is currently in, had this been listed 2021, would have brought 600K.

An update on this place that started at 650K Now at 449K. I am not a smart man and I ain't no abacus but that is a 30% drop. after the rehab and carrying costs, can you say

 

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